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I have been struggling to find a better cell phone that is more private and so on. My life almost mandates a smart phone and its been much easier for me to have one. I picked a Blackberry years ago and have been using that since from a corporate perspective, it was the most useful. My wife has been pushing me to get an iPhone, which strikes me as really bad for OpSec, since the user isn't really in control of the phone. I'm subbornly holding onto my blackberry, but I see the writing on the wall and these may no longer be available in the near future.

Are there any suggestions, criteria, or other things I should be considering for my next cell phone? How about ratings of the major carriers? I've read about certain carriers retaining your activity records for certain periods, but so far that's all I've learned.
 

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Buy an android powered phone.

You can harden it up or down to your liking.

Its so versitile that the military is going to make there own version for the troops.

I've had the droid, droid 2 ,droid 3 next I think ill get the google nexus phone.

You can set up a screen lock, encrypt your phone, add a sim card lock, add a restriction lock that won't send any info about your location. And with lookout pro you can even remote wipe your phone should you ever need to.

So android is pretty badass
 

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I would not ever own a cell phone,smartphone..... THEY ARE NOTHING BUT SPYING PIECES OF GARBAGE FOR THE ELITE!!
 

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Elite?

Quite shocking!

They are just tools for a very particular set of needs.

I have mine for businesses use, I do about 2500 minutes a month of business calls about 400 texts and 1 gig of data. Remoting into my work computer, texting my employees, calling them and sending and researching directions. And various other researching other weird stuff my boss needs.

Its the easiest thing I can carry too fulfill my needs
 

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Buy an android powered phone.

You can harden it up or down to your liking.

Its so versitile that the military is going to make there own version for the troops.
Not being familiar with Android, what sort of controls do you have on the device. Is there somewhere I can get information on the topic?
I think one of my daughters has one, but since she's always breaking it and is a typical teenager, I won't get anything out of her that makes sense to me. Sigh...
Thanks!
 

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Its an old video but this gives you the jist of what android is.

Would you and everyone else like a "android hardening video"?
Thanks for the offer, but I'd hate to put your out over something I won't be getting for more than a year. If you feel so inclined, knock yourself out, but if I'm the only one, the phones are liable to change be then and it'll dated, as the above video is.
As to the video, that was very enlightening. I didn't expect the OS and applications to be so independant from the phone itself, which is interesting indeed.
 

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most phones nowaday can function over just wifi, you can send txts, make call, recieve emails, etc. so if you just buy a phone but not the plan as long as you have wifi you can use it, you dont need id you buy just the cell
 

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Just buying the phone would cost you hundreds!!

I can see the conceern with privacy but think about this are you really doing something wrong?
also if your so concerned about your location just drop the phone or take the battery out till you need it again. i mean thats if your on the run lol

I always say. if they want to watch me. go ahead, as long as you dont mind watching porn.
 

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Just buying the phone would cost you hundreds!!

I can see the conceern with privacy but think about this are you really doing something wrong?
also if your so concerned about your location just drop the phone or take the battery out till you need it again. i mean thats if your on the run lol

I always say. if they want to watch me. go ahead, as long as you dont mind watching porn.
First off, I guess I have to explain myself a little more for those who think all is wonderful in the world. It's not. Do I have something to hide? Completely irrelevant.

Fourth amendment, for those who don't know it:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Does it say anything about whether or not the people have done actually anything worth hiding? Does it matter that governments can, and do, at any time for any reason, declare certain actions reprehensible without prior notification? Do they just decide that because they didn't have their morning coffee they can go off and get involved in any random person's business just because they feel like it?
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscent...eek_warrants_before_tracking_cell_phones.html

Now that we've got the nosy government and their friends covered, there are other threats:
Direct theft of phones
Theft of phones for the purpose of gaining the data on it
Tracking phones by private entities because they felt like it
Apps gathering every bit of data on everything I do on my phone, including the times I pass possibly sensitive information about business or personal issues.
I can go on and on.

My cell phone provider isn't off the hook either:
http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2011/09/cellphone_companies_keeping_tr.html

Think it's just our own government? Think it's just someone unhappy with me? Think it might be espionage? Think it might be blackmail? Think it's just Google farming data? Think again. Most of the time you don't know about it until its too late.

Do I have a life? I'd like to think I do. I work long hours keeping a roof over the heads of my large family. I don't bury myself under a rock thinking I can hide away from the world. I do R&D for a living, and the result of my work is intellectual property that other companies and governments would love to get their hands on. Stick and app on my phone that sneaks a virus onto my computers, and then before too long my world is wide open.
It's like identity theft. If you deal with it afterwards, it's impossible to fix. Get smart beforehand and folks wonder why you're the only one not having the problems.

You're not paranoid if folks really are out to get you. And the reality is, they are. They want your identity and good name, they want your SSN, they want your credit card and banking info, they want to know what you buy and when you buy it, they want to know what you look for and view on the web, and all that. While some things like my web habits are mine, it's no effort at all for those with ill intent to get that information as well. It's not hard to identify my work and its products by simply examining my web searches.
 

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Give me 10 minutes alone with an Android phone and ill harden it so well you'd think id rubbed Viagra on it.

Load your basic google productivity apps

Set up a restriction lock

encrypt your data, lock your sim card down, set up a device administrator.
And your set.

A hardened computer/device is one that's light on applications , heavy on setting changes
 

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Depends on which operation you need security for. I agree with Escape's tracphone idea. Having multiple phones purchased anonymously can really help you, especially if all of the phones in question have their batteries removed, are stored in weather-proof containers, and are in hiding places which you may disclose to fellow members of a group.
 

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Load your basic google productivity apps
The words Google and secure don't really sit well with me. Can Android be made truly secure with the operating system being a Google data mining deity? Surely I don't trust Apple's iOS any further.

Something linux based on a smartphone that is not provided by a telecom company would make me feel a bit safer than the main two options. However I'm not sure if such thing exists these days.
 

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Buy an android powered phone.

You can harden it up or down to your liking.

Its so versitile that the military is going to make there own version for the troops.

I've had the droid, droid 2 ,droid 3 next I think ill get the google nexus phone.

You can set up a screen lock, encrypt your phone, add a sim card lock, add a restriction lock that won't send any info about your location. And with lookout pro you can even remote wipe your phone should you ever need to.

So android is pretty badass
I would not trust anything made by Google and then expanded by other huge corporations...

The HTC's had a spying routine in them, which made everything you typed (IIRC) available to the company - only a few months ago.

If you want real security - don't use smartphones. Use internet from a cafe, anonymous email address, Tor, GNUPG and other security stuff...

Don't use a cell phone!
 

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I am going to make a minpc which incorporates windows, zphone software, a majicjack, and wifi. This way I can encrypt voip-voip calls anywhere there is a wifi signal making it portable so to speak. It really ****es me off that the turds who allow electronics into the us do not already incorporate encryption. No thanks to crapple and hemorrhoid.
 

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I have an older Samsung, the Blackjack 2, running (I think) Windows Mobile 6. Any thoughts on this combo, from a prepper's viewpoint?
 
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