if he cant drive/remember how to get to your property, setup a pickup location, if the event happens and you drive by and hes got stragglers, hit the gas.... dont you stop... lawz no!!! (thats a reference from the stand... its funny on a few levels)...
OPSEC and a special needs hired hand.
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M-O-O-N, spells exactly what we are dealing with, a Tom Collins.
We would pick him up to bring him to the property. Even if he DID have a license, he has a 70's Camaro that would cost more in gas R/T than he could afford- 60+ miles.
The living at the property is far off, if at all, I can barely live with BnB
: (more like vice versa, Im a handful). But chances are he would be spending a few days at a time on the land before we went back down the hill.I have a 27 y.o. son who functions at a 9 - 15 year old level depending on the area of functionality. He also meets no one that does not warrant any and all information that he may happen to get a hold of. If it went in his head, it WILL come out his mouth. That's just the way it is. We can train, lecture, explain, etc. and he understands and can explain it back in his own words so we know he gets it. The next day when he goes to his sheltered workshop job, if he knows it, he tells it. So, we don't store food, we buy extra when it is on sale. We keep stuff on hand for hurricanes. (The supervisors at the workshop think I am totally terrified of hurricanes. ) We explain most other things as we go because we live out in the country and it's not always easy to go to the store.
Our son is not by any means dumb, it is just there are areas that function differently. Mechanically, he can watch someone work on something and be able to work on it himself. When he gets started on a job you have to watch him or he will work until he just falls over if it is too big to do at one time. There is, however, NO filter between his brain and his mouth. So, we just make sure he has a relatively limited idea of what all we may have on hand or have the ability to do.
This young man will probably be a great worker for you. You will certainly be a great influence in his life. We learned with our son that "Presentation is everything." If, as you are getting him started on things you mention how much food it looks like you have if you buy a whole month's worth at once so you don't have to go to town very often and things like that, he may not find your food supply something worthy to remember. Competing for his mind and his mouth are going to be the tales of how he went camping, and he cleared the forest, and he helped make a place for the deer to eat, and by the time he gets through he moved the sun 4 degrees to the left. The things that are OPSEC to you are not likely to be the things that are great stories to him, and from a surface standpoint it looks like you are just clearing virgin land.
One thing to remember to do is the varied, wandering routes to your new place. Our son still goes to sleep if the vehicle moves more than 1/2 mile, maybe your worker will too and that would make it harder for him to guide the starving droves to your place.
That's just the way it is. We can train, lecture, explain, etc. and he understands and can explain it back in his own words so we know he gets it. The next day when he goes to his sheltered workshop job, if he knows it, he tells it. So, we don't store food, we buy extra when it is on sale. We keep stuff on hand for hurricanes. (The supervisors at the workshop think I am totally terrified of hurricanes. ) We explain most other things as we go because we live out in the country and it's not always easy to go to the store. Our son is not by any means dumb, it is just there are areas that function differently. Mechanically, he can watch someone work on something and be able to work on it himself. When he gets started on a job you have to watch him or he will work until he just falls over if it is too big to do at one time. There is, however, NO filter between his brain and his mouth. So, we just make sure he has a relatively limited idea of what all we may have on hand or have the ability to do.
This young man will probably be a great worker for you. You will certainly be a great influence in his life. We learned with our son that "Presentation is everything." If, as you are getting him started on things you mention how much food it looks like you have if you buy a whole month's worth at once so you don't have to go to town very often and things like that, he may not find your food supply something worthy to remember. Competing for his mind and his mouth are going to be the tales of how he went camping, and he cleared the forest, and he helped make a place for the deer to eat, and by the time he gets through he moved the sun 4 degrees to the left.
The things that are OPSEC to you are not likely to be the things that are great stories to him, and from a surface standpoint it looks like you are just clearing virgin land. One thing to remember to do is the varied, wandering routes to your new place. Our son still goes to sleep if the vehicle moves more than 1/2 mile, maybe your worker will too and that would make it harder for him to guide the starving droves to your place.
I had a step daughter that fits your description perfectly. While being usually good hearted, friendly, open, caring, sharing, etc... This child also made my life miserable when she took a mind to by running to this family member or that family member instigating trouble by "sharing" what a bad person I am etc
Of course she was a teenager, and did it to try and get her way by playing family against evil old step~ma.... but ....
Some of the higher intellectual functions are lost in this range, and OPSEC, intentional deception, etc... may very well be a consequence of that. I'd tread very lightly on this one.
Of course she was a teenager, and did it to try and get her way by playing family against evil old step~ma.... but ....
Some of the higher intellectual functions are lost in this range, and OPSEC, intentional deception, etc... may very well be a consequence of that. I'd tread very lightly on this one.
Mel, that's exactly what I was trying to say with my previous post!I have a 27 y.o. son who functions at a 9 - 15 year old level depending on the area of functionality. He also meets no one that does not warrant any and all information that he may happen to get a hold of. If it went in his head, it WILL come out his mouth.
Our son is not by any means dumb, it is just there are areas that function differently. Mechanically, he can watch someone work on something and be able to work on it himself. When he gets started on a job you have to watch him or he will work until he just falls over if it is too big to do at one time. There is, however, NO filter between his brain and his mouth. So, we just make sure he has a relatively limited idea of what all we may have on hand or have the ability to do.
This young man will probably be a great worker for you. You will certainly be a great influence in his life. We learned with our son that "Presentation is everything." If, as you are getting him started on things you mention how much food it looks like you have if you buy a whole month's worth at once so you don't have to go to town very often and things like that, he may not find your food supply something worthy to remember. Competing for his mind and his mouth are going to be the tales of how he went camping, and he cleared the forest, and he helped make a place for the deer to eat, and by the time he gets through he moved the sun 4 degrees to the left.
One thing to remember to do is the varied, wandering routes to your new place. Our son still goes to sleep if the vehicle moves more than 1/2 mile, maybe your worker will too and that would make it harder for him to guide the starving droves to your place.
'Couch things in simple, kind of boring terms, so there isn't anything to tell!'
And you poor thing, so afraid of hurricanes........
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Im sorry, but I gotta LOL!M-O-O-N, spells exactly what we are dealing with, a Tom Collins.
We would pick him up to bring him to the property. Even if he DID have a license, he has a 70's Camaro that would cost more in gas R/T than he could afford- 60+ miles.
The living at the property is far off, if at all, I can barely live with BnB
: I sometimes say M-O-O-N spells.....LOL! Finally someone who gets it. :thumb:
There have been some very helpful and intuitive post's on this thread and they are all appreciated. Unfortunately I'm a bit on the other side of exhausted to give any rational reply's.
But I do want to address this specific quote. (and more later!) We don't feel that we are taking advantage of anybody. Quite the opposite in fact. His time and effort is valuable to us and we are making it more than worth it.
People suck!Thanks for doing the right thing by this guy.
Even if you decide not to use him any further, at least you're not trying to take advantage of him. :thumb:
It all sounds good and hope it works out. If you don't need him next summer, I could always use more good help especially with heavy lifting and logging.
You said he reminds you a lot of Lenny in Mice and Men. Hope he won't turn out to be exactly like Lenny - If any remember the end of that story!
BnB would have to use his bullets and maybe even beans.
But really hope it all does work out for you and Lenny - I mean the young man. :thumb:
I kind of figured that was the case. I wasn't trying to suggest you were in any way shape or form that you were taking advantage.We don't feel that we are taking advantage of anybody. Quite the opposite in fact. His time and effort is valuable to us and we are making it more than worth it.
I was simply trying to say, don't feel like you are taking advantage of him (and thus over compensate and pay him more than his labor is worth). Your time spent with him is worth far more than any amount of cash you could give him.
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