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Community Organizer In Chief
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:20 PM PT

Election '08: Barack Obama claims he worked for a "small group of churches" as a community organizer. In fact, he was hired by a radical Alinskyite group, and Saul Alinsky's own son has outed him.

Buried last month in the Boston Globe's letters to the editor was a three-paragraph letter congratulating Obama for putting on a great show at the Democratic National Convention.

That open-stadium rally in Denver, with it's packed crowd and perfectly timed chanting of key phrases, "had all the elements of the perfectly organized event, Saul Alinsky-style," opined the letter-writer. The reference was to the hard-boiled Chicago socialist and father of radical community organizing.

"Barack Obama's training in Chicago by the great community organizers is showing its effectiveness," the author continued. "When executed meticulously and thoughtfully, it is a powerful strategy for initiating change and making it really happen. Obama learned his lesson well.

"I am proud to see that my father's model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008," the author said. "It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday."

The person who signed the letter, Lee David Alinsky, a longtime public TV producer in the Boston area, is indeed the son of the late radical. Alinsky no doubt felt compelled to make the tribute on behalf of Obama because Obama refuses to even acknowledge his Alinsky training in public.

He is quick to say that the community organizing he did in Chicago was "the best education I ever had, better than anything I got at Harvard Law School." But he never tells us who educated him, not even in the two memoirs he's written. He also fails to disclose who hired him. Obama claimed in the recent national service forum at Columbia University that he worked for "churches" while organizing on the South Side of Chicago.

Talk about putting lipstick on a pig. Obama in fact worked for a subsidiary of the radical Gamaliel Foundation, a Chicago-based Alinsky group, and he was paid by the radical Woods Fund, which supports Gamaliel. Gamaliel's Web site and history page make plain that it evolved from the Alinsky school of organizing. Its training methods acknowledge an "agitational" style of organizing.

Obama also fails to disclose that he himself became a trainer of community organizers for the radical Gamaliel network. He also won't disclose that he contributed to a Chicago forum called "After Alinsky," where he argued for a "systematic approach" to community organizing and more "power" to bring about social change.

Serving on Gamaliel's board of directors is John McKnight, who wrote a letter of recommendation for Obama to Harvard. McKnight is a noted "student of Alinsky" and former ACLU director who now teaches at Northwestern University.

McKnight also sits on the board of the National People's Action, or NPA, a particularly thuggish group of Alinskyite agitators who sing the following ditty when picketing the homes of business and government leaders: "Who's on your hit list, NPA? Who's on your hit list of today? Take no prisoner, take no names. Kick 'em in the ass when they play their games."

Some community organizers are well-meaning and harmless. But not the ones Obama threw in with. They intimidate and agitate for more government home loans, more government job programs, a ban on police profiling, more benefits for illegal aliens, felon voting rights, minimum wage hikes, "environmental justice" and so on.

What they do is not harmless. What they demand is not noble. But Obama wants to give them more money and power, and organize them on a "large scale." He can run from his radical organizing record, but he can't hide.
 

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Key quote: Some community organizers are well-meaning and harmless. But not the ones Obama threw in with. They intimidate and agitate for more government home loans, more government job programs, a ban on police profiling, more benefits for illegal aliens, felon voting rights, minimum wage hikes, "environmental justice" and so on.

Yes, these are positions championed by the left wing, and they are also champoined by a great many democrats. Yes, Obama is a left wing-leaning democrat.

So what? So was FDR?

All that article does is throw around the term "radical" to scare the reader, and then when it tried to define "radical" in the above paragraph, it comes up with...parts of the democratic party platform! Now you may not LIKE those positions, but things like environmental justice and minimum wage hikes are, in fact, very popular with the American people. Radical? Hardly.

Just another piece of right wing propaganda...

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So what? So was FDR?

yea but this one is in position to do more damage,
FDR simply prolonged a depression
this one will kill a country - thru taxation and redistribution, failure to take our enemies seriously, overbearing regulation to fix problems that washington has caused, global redistribution of our wealth and adherence to unfair global treaties,


"throw around the term "radical" to scare the reader,"--- i think his friends, mentors, and associates should scare the reader enough ------- and radical is a fairly accurate description of more than a few of them
 

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we'd be much better off with another 4 years of the downward spiral we've been in for the last 8 years......right!
 

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I can see it now. Obama is at a podium screaming in front of a crowd of numbskulls, "WHO HATES GUNS?" and the crowd screams in unison, "WE DO!" Then Obama Screams, "WHEN WE GONNA TAKE EM'?" and the autobots scream back, "NOW!" "WHO HATES GUNS?" "WE DO!" "WHEN WE GONNA TAKE EM'?" "NOW!" - "WHO HATES GUNS?" "WE DO!" "WHEN WE GONNA TAKE EM'?" "NOW!" - "WHO HATES GUNS?" "WE DO!" "WHEN WE GONNA TAKE EM'?" "NOW!" - "WHO HATES GUNS?" "WE DO!" "WHEN WE GONNA TAKE EM'?" "NOW!"

That will be our future Commander in Chief utilizing the full force of his illustrious experience as a community rabble rouser, I mean organizer.
 

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David Freddoso's magnificent new book, The Case Against Barack Obama describes the forefather to "community organizers" like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton -- the famed Saul Alinsky.

Alinsky is sort of the George Washington of "community organizers." If there were an America-hater's Mount Rushmore, Saul Alinsky would be on it. He tried to hire Hillary to work for him right out of Wellesley. A generation later, those who had trained with Alinsky did hire Obama as a community organizer.

In Freddoso's book , he quotes from the dedication in the first edition of Alinsky's seminal book, "Rules for Radicals," where Alinsky wrote:

"Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: From all our legends, mythology and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins -- or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer." :eek:
 

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the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer." :eek:
that means Barack Obama is Lucifer.
Impeccable logic.
 

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that means Barack Obama is Lucifer.
Impeccable logic.
This is a quote from one of Obama’s mentors! This is some insight into how this man thinks. Much more can be known of Obama’s true intents by looking into his background, associations & past actions than the rhetoric that he wants us to hear. Some people can see past the image he wants to portray and the others are sheople who so badly want to believe the rhetoric that they are willing to follow him straight to hell. Wake up and look at what this man has done not what he says he is going to do. And in your search for what he has done dig a little deeper than the pro-Obama websites.
 

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This is a quote from one of Obama’s mentors! This is some insight into how this man thinks. Much more can be known of Obama’s true intents by looking into his background, associations & past actions than the rhetoric that he wants us to hear. Some people can see past the image he wants to portray and the others are sheople who so badly want to believe the rhetoric that they are willing to follow him straight to hell. Wake up and look at what this man has done not what he says he is going to do. And in your search for what he has done dig a little deeper than the pro-Obama websites.
OK, I'll bite. What has he done that scares you?
 

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OK, I'll bite. What has he done that scares you?
I was not trying to get you to bite on anything. My reasons to fear Obama I am sure are very different than the reasons you have to fear him. I was challenging you to look into his past by-passing all the misinformation that all the Obama supporters know by heart already. When any person claims to be someone other than who they truly are everyone has a reason to fear them.
 

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I watched an old training video on community organization from the 1930s. It was effective then. However, I had a had time understanding it since it was narrated in German.
 

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OK, I'll bite. What has he done that scares you?
FXJOHN aka "Barackhuseinobammalover"

I viewed all your posts you have made on this site since you joined on the 14 of september. You have made 2 post that contributed to "survival" they were recomending a website for food. The other 72 posts you have made are all leftist, support/defend Obama garbage. You know if all you want to do is talk politics and bash bush and support a radical leftist hate america half breed, go find one of those sites. This is primarly a survival site, not a politics site. Oh or are you one of those people employed my the Obama campaign to hop on web sites and "spread the truth"?

From now on I will regard you as such.....
 

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FXJOHN aka "Barackhuseinobammalover"

I viewed all your posts you have made on this site since you joined on the 14 of september. You have made 2 post that contributed to "survival" they were recomending a website for food. The other 72 posts you have made are all leftist, support/defend Obama garbage. You know if all you want to do is talk politics and bash bush and support a radical leftist hate america half breed, go find one of those sites. This is primarly a survival site, not a politics site. Oh or are you one of those people employed my the Obama campaign to hope on web sites and "spread the truth"?

From now on I will regard you as such.....
AMEN to that bother! I started to say the same thing to him yesterday after he contaminated a thread that I started but he fizzled for the day. I guess his mom went to get their food stamps today and he had a chance to get on her computer.
 

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Do you not know that after the tyrant Lincoln, FDR was the worst? He not only guided his goals by the socialist agenda but he was able to make socialist policy that we have been paying for ever since.

Obama is worse than he was.. We can not afford more overtly socialist, nanny legislation.
 

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ive been tryin ta git him ta defend his mans positions----
result is always bush/mccain did........

guess logic is above the head of libertrolls.
that or the positions are indefinsable
 
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FXJOHN aka "Barackhuseinobammalover"

I viewed all your posts you have made on this site since you joined on the 14 of september. You have made 2 post that contributed to "survival" they were recomending a website for food. The other 72 posts you have made are all leftist, support/defend Obama garbage. You know if all you want to do is talk politics and bash bush and support a radical leftist hate america half breed, go find one of those sites. This is primarly a survival site, not a politics site. Oh or are you one of those people employed my the Obama campaign to hop on web sites and "spread the truth"?

From now on I will regard you as such.....
What have I said that is "left wing hate"?
I'd like to know. Why have I been thanked 18 times?
 

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ive been tryin ta git him ta defend his mans positions----
result is always bush/mccain did........

guess logic is above the head of libertrolls.
that or the positions are indefinsable
Defend what? All you do is croak out some vague "socialist" accusations against Brack Obama.
 

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Defend what? All you do is croak out some vague "socialist" accusations against Brack Obama.
If you think that Obama is not socialistic you are clueless. He tips the scales of socialism more on toward communism than any presidential candidate in our US history.
 

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And there is the liberal line. Obama is ANYTHING but vague about his socialism. He and most of the Dems play directly from the communist manifesto.. Of that there is no doubt. It is evident in every action they take....
 
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