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of course he did... AFTER he'd had his staff make sure the probability was high that it would work...
 

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Yeah, the leak is Bush's fault. :rolleyes: But fixing it is Obama's job. He'll say so AFTER it's likely fixed. As he destroys our efforts to drill for more oil so we don't become even more dependent on foreign oil. Oil went up almost $4 a barrel today after that idiot opened his mouth.
 

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Obama said that he had been in charge since the beginning and BP had been taking orders from the FEDS since the well blew out. It seems to me that this lets BP off the hook for everything after day one.
 

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Obama said that he had been in charge since the beginning and BP had been taking orders from the FEDS since the well blew out. It seems to me that this lets BP off the hook for everything after day one.
http://renovomedia.com/politics/obama-top-recipient-of-bp-campaign-contributions/
Obama Top Recipient of BP Campaign Contributions-

BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Donations come from a mix of employees and the company’s political action committees — $2.89 million flowed to campaigns from BP-related PACs and about $638,000 came from individuals.

During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records.

http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?year=2010&lname=BP&id=

Year: 1999
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $5,684,794
Chemical & Related Manufacturing $80,000

Year: 2000
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $4,150,000
Chemical & Related Manufacturing $60,000

Year: 2001
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $2,160,000
Chemical & Related Manufacturing $20,000

Year: 2002
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $3,032,000

Year:2003
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $2,574,000

Year: 2004
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $1,900,000

Year: 2005
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $2,920,000

Year: 2006
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $3,650,000

Year: 2007
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $4,640,000

Year:2008
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $10,450,000

Year: 2009
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $15,990,000

Year: So far in 2010
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $3,530,000

[link to www.opensecrets.org]

Thats 45,659,000 spent lobbying Congress.
 

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Knife Maker
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What I find most interesting is that he really didn't a whole lot to say about it until after his staff conducted "30 DAYS of RESEARCH" on the subject. Could you imagine how badly Bush would have been crucified in the press for waiting 30 days to respond articulately about Katrina. Albeit it is a stretch to use the word articulate but at least when TSHTF in Louisiana Bush and his staff went to work they left the studying the situation for later.
 

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Any Dems want to defend Obumble here?

By turns acting angry and appalled, Carville has been a fixture on U.S. television networks over the past week — outlining a litany of mistakes he says Obama has made in the 40 days since the BP Deepwater Horizon rig exploded and sank in the Gulf.

According to Carville, Obama should have been in the Gulf immediately after the tragedy to comfort families of the 11 rig workers who died in the April 20 blast.

But he also accuses Obama of being overly deferential to BP while ignoring parish officials in Louisiana who felt shoved aside by the oil company as it sought to stage manage the cleanup effort.

"The political stupidity of this is just unbelievable," Carville, 65, fumed on ABC's Good Morning America earlier this week.

"It just looks like (Obama) is not involved in this. Man, you got to get down here and take control of this, put somebody in charge of this thing and get this moving. We're about to die down here."



Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Ra...spill+crisis/3083649/story.html#ixzz0pJiMQviL



Hence, the difference between being a leader and being a concensus builder. Experience. I hate it when Hillary Clinton was right.
 

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It's funny how you don't hear much from the environmental groups yet in the mainstream press. If this happened two years ago I could only imagine the s*** storm in the press from these groups and all the Hollywood environmentalist..
 

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http://renovomedia.com/politics/obama-top-recipient-of-bp-campaign-contributions/
Obama Top Recipient of BP Campaign Contributions-

BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Donations come from a mix of employees and the company’s political action committees — $2.89 million flowed to campaigns from BP-related PACs and about $638,000 came from individuals.

During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records.

http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?year=2010&lname=BP&id=

Year: 1999
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $5,684,794
Chemical & Related Manufacturing $80,000

Year: 2000
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $4,150,000
Chemical & Related Manufacturing $60,000

Year: 2001
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $2,160,000
Chemical & Related Manufacturing $20,000

Year: 2002
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $3,032,000

Year:2003
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $2,574,000

Year: 2004
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $1,900,000

Year: 2005
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $2,920,000

Year: 2006
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $3,650,000

Year: 2007
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $4,640,000

Year:2008
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $10,450,000

Year: 2009
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $15,990,000

Year: So far in 2010
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $3,530,000

[link to www.opensecrets.org]

Thats 45,659,000 spent lobbying Congress.


It rather looks like it's the fault of everybody in or out of office.Dems or Reps.The lobbying goes back a lot farther than that.

And that doesn't cover direct bribes,resort junkets and call girls(and boys).
 

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Obama can't find his way out of a wet paper bag, so what does anyone expect from him? And as for the democrats vs republicans, both political parties are as corrupt anymore as the other. I used to pride myself on being a republican years ago...once! The system itself wants people to argue in "stupid-speak" by acting as if they know everything about one party vs another when in the end all the poo comes from the same barrel. You see that is how they snag people so that they quabble about something that actually means nothing while they continue to do what they want to do in Washington. So, people can pretend they are so politically savvy but in the end you are kidding yourself if you think it will make a real difference in the outcomes that count.
 

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Any Dems want to defend Obumble here?
No,not on this issue ,for 2 reasons.

1. He has dragged his feet for 5 weeks and catered to BP the whole way. The spill was 50 miles from the coast and amply time was available to save the coast and wetlands IMO.

2. Before the accident, he was about to allow big oil to begin offshore exploration off the Alaskan Coast , 33 more spots in the Gulf and all along the eastern coast of the U.S.- you big oil loving conservative "drill baby drillers" should be appaulding him for this, but it's not the Green energy policy that I had in mind.

I can't blame Obama for the ****ty economy that Bush left behind or the 2 wars Bush started, or the banking collapse that Bush and the republicans allowed through their deregulation policies, or the housing bubble, or our crumbling infrastructure that past several presidents have turned a blind eye to,or the 10.5 trillion dollar deficit Bush left behind. But yes, Obama has screwed the pooch on this oil catastrophe,thus far.
 
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