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To be fair, "freegans" and "dumpster divers" do this all the time. It's common practice, given that grocery stores will pull fruits and vegetables for having a tiny bad spot. Or a box of cereal being 1 day past the pull date. It's not bad, they just can't sell it. I don't think this points toward a hurricane, I think it's pretty regular behavior for these folks. (They even have websites to share hot spots and compare booty.) Someone with a camera just decided to make a big deal of it because of the hurricane.

If grocery stores were less wasteful and didn't throw out perfectly good stuff, it wouldn't happen. They used to donate stuff to food banks and homeless shelters, but if someone got sick (even if it wasn't the cause), they would get sued. Our church used to have a big table of day old bread and other nice baked goods - rolls, bagels and such - every Sunday, available free for the taking. That would be a good use for stuff that is nearing its pull date. Not the garbage bin.

Another reason: giving away stuff "dilutes" your brand name and lowers its worth in peoples' eyes.:rolleyes: An example of this is the brand name fancy shoes that expensive department stores throw out. If they need to be thrown out, they make the employees destroy the shoes rather than give them to a homeless shelter... because it would cheapen their name in the eyes of the people that shop there. (In my eyes, giving them away to the needy would be a big plus. I personally would be more likely to buy them. But I guess the bean counters think differently.)

I'm not a socialist, I'm just against waste. If you have a watermelon with a bad spot, cut it out and chop up the rest and sell it. Or set up a way to give these things to charity rather than throw them away. But I guess I live in a different world than the corporate bean counters.
 

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That's New York City for you...I grew up there... And most expect the city to do for them instead of doing for themselves....I am so glad I don't live there anymore...And if there was looting going on they won't broadcast it... Cause they don't want to have the public see they lost control... I still havnt heard from family members... But I can't even get into the city to check... Maybe they should be a bunch of be prepared billboards in Times Square after this.
 

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What I find most interesting ( and I hope this situation opens a few eyes and we get some more like-minded people on sites like this), is how quickly the thin veneer of civilization can be literally washed away.

We are not talking about milk lines or bread lines here. We are talking about GASOLINE.
A few days of inconvenience and a line that is more than 2 cars long and people are reduced to violence. Can you imagine what would take place if this were a true, long-term Grid Down scenario wherein food supplies became scarce? There would be RIOTS, and do-or-die violence.

Now the Mrs has always been a bit dismissive of my preparedness...after what she has witnessed the last few days, she has seen the light (pun intended).

Y'all be careful. Better still, be ready. :thumb:
 

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no telling what's in that particular dumpster ... but there are other pics on-line showing the clean out of flooded supermarkets ..... shopping carts full of can goods and jar products .... good chance it's perfectly good food but the labels or boxces are damaged .....
 

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People in downtown Manhattan are digging through dumpsters for food,


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ers-digging-dumpsters-food.html#ixzz2B35JLebF

Sounds like exaggeration to me in the headlines to sell a story.

As others have pointed out, it is probably perfectly good food that a store tossed out because they lost power or had some water damage. Since the store may not be open, and the people had little else to do with mass transport and many businesses shut down, they picked up some free stuff.
 

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how quickly the thin veneer of civilization can be literally washed away.

We are not talking about milk lines or bread lines here. We are talking about gasoline.
A few days of inconvenience and a line that is more than 2 cars long and people are reduced to violence. Can you imagine what would take place if this were a true, long-term grid down scenario wherein food supplies became scarce? There would be riots, and do-or-die violence.
exactly!!!!
 

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What I find most interesting ( and I hope this situation opens a few eyes and we get some more like-minded people on sites like this), is how quickly the thin veneer of civilization can be literally washed away.

We are not talking about milk lines or bread lines here. We are talking about GASOLINE.
A few days of inconvenience and a line that is more than 2 cars long and people are reduced to violence. Can you imagine what would take place if this were a true, long-term Grid Down scenario wherein food supplies became scarce? There would be RIOTS, and do-or-die violence.

Now the Mrs has always been a bit dismissive of my preparedness...after what she has witnessed the last few days, she has seen the light (pun intended).

Y'all be careful. Better still, be ready. :thumb:
Excellent point and yes it's opened my eyes to a few things personally though I prepped and have what I need for awhile. The behavior is very different than Miami and St.Maarten(the two other hurricanes I went through...you'd think I'd learn by now)and it's not a motivating or positive one.

I also noticed a bitterness in people on Thursday and Friday and it wasn't until yesterday on FB I realized but was thankful that others were noticing it as well. Lot's of bitterness and selfishness going around right now where after my last hurricane friendships were formed and most neighbors got to know each other a lot better and shared. This may be my last year in NYC because as we get closer to a "possible" SHTF scenario I'd be very worried to be around some of these people should it be long term. There's no doubt many could not handle the 33 days I experienced once and the lack of basics if this is their behavior after only 3-4 days.
 

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that is not desperate people digging through dumpsters...that is people looking for freebies after a grocery store unloaded its shelves.if they had electric,they would still have hit that spot up.i wouldnt have ate contaminated food but im not above snagging useful things out of a dumpster.

I agree those are opportunists looking for free food. It's likely the store is dumping all it's refrigerated/ frozen food before it's actually spoiled because they know it's another 3-4 days at least before they get power ...wouldn't you?

If one had a generator & gas to keep a freezer(s) running there would be some good pickings!
 

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Three days and people are digging through dumpsters,,, I do not have the words.
I do - it's called
Previews Of Coming Attractions.

I'd be willing to bet that the folks in this photo would never be doing this under "normal" circumstances. Just wait til we have a "Greece fire" here in the U.S.. That will make this shot look like a picnic. :(
 

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So much for the hordes flowing out of the cities in droves to invade the suburbs! These "unfortunate" folks apparently don't have enough food or fuel to get them around the block even with a weeks warning! I would like to hear from some of our members here who live in the affected areas and did have preps available. ie water food fuel etc. How are they faring? All in all a huge learning experience for all of us, even from a distance.
 
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