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New Self Reliant Organization Forming

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A new group is starting up devoted to self-reliant methods, both past and present. The kind of people we are hoping to attract include (but is not limited to) persons interested in co-ops, green energy homesteaders living off the grid, living history buffs, experimental archeologists, blacksmiths, urban farmers, hunters, trackers, fishermen, primitive technologists, animal behavioralists, herbalists, botanists, wildcrafters, survivalists, and those interested in learning subsistence living methods. People who can get along just fine by themselves but possess the ability to get along with others and realize that things are easier when we work together as a community. Come learn how things were done once upon a time or just learn how to live below your means while learning and sharing modern day energy efficient methods. Interested persons must have a sincere desire to learn as well as sharing their own knowledge.

You may find that you enjoy leaving a smaller footprint on the earth, learning the old crafts of how to make your own food, clothing or supplies, harvesting and producing your own food, or just saving money by learning how to do things yourself. We are located in the San Bernardino mountains in Southern California. Interested persons should contact us at: huntertrapper@yahoo.com
 
#2 ·
you are recruiting people to move to Kommiefornia and live in some sort of hippie Yurt commune?

will you cover my relocation costs?
 
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Just a feeling, But I'm pretty sure you aint gonna get many people on this site to join a commune.
last time I checked guns and hippies dont mix, And I'd love to watch you try and get anyone on this site to give up their guns to join up.

Good luck with it by the way, I'm always happy to see people who are trying to leave a smaller footprint on the earth.
 
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Really? I'm a gun-owning hippie commie liberal fascist satanist meanie poo face. I think they mix quite well and most of the people like me that I know are quite the same. The whole low-impact self-sufficient natural 'bush hippie' thing is really blooming on my side of the spectrum.

Over here it's not about trying to gain an advantage over other people and wiping out the impure 'zombies' but by getting together and trying to help everyone support themselves and their communities without massive corporate dependencies. These days the aim isn't redistributing wealth as much as trying to make people able to get by just fine on their own without it and hopefully we can all get along better by not dedicating our lives to competing for insufficient resources.
 
#11 ·
Just wanted to say a sincere thank you to all the people who’ve replied so far. I don’t know if it’s the economy or the survival shows on TV but it is sure nice to see so many people interested in this. Very cool. I would also like to thank the site owner-administrator for allowing me to post this thread.

Some of you sent questions about the group that I probably should’ve included in the original post so I will go ahead and post them here:

· “Is it another ‘men’s only’ club?” – Absolutely not. There are many women we have met that are better at self-reliance and survival than a lot of men I know. Everyone has something to teach someone else.

· “Are kids allowed?” - No, not at this time (at least, none under the age of 18). Procedures such as hide scraping or cutting a fireboard involve the use of knives and we just don’t need the liability issues. Sorry.

· “Do you need to have any kind of experience?” – No, just a sincere desire to learn, participate and contribute when you can.

· “When do you get together?” – It’s a new group so we haven’t done anything yet. We’re thinking once a month for starters and we’ll see how it goes after that.

· “Are there any fees or dues?” No. Really, only 5 things are required:

1) Tolerance. We all can learn something from someone else, including people with different viewpoints from our own. We will be discussing self-reliant methods from very diverse areas and tolerance is a must.
2) A sincere desire to learn, participate, and share skills learned. There is a lot of acquired wisdom out there that we can all share and gain from. These days it is both wise and prudent to pool our knowledge and resources considering the current economic climate. People did this during the Great Depression. We will be field-testing concepts from areas as diverse as the Foxfire books to the Wintercount gatherings.
3) Leave your ego at home. Period.
4) Topics will be restricted to self-reliant methods. If it doesn’t help you get along cheaper, put food on the table, heat your home, etc., we won’t be discussing it. This includes religion and politics.
5) Everything must be done within the limits of the law. No exceptions.

Hope this answers your questions. Possible meeting format specifics will be discussed at the first meeting. We will keep your e-mail addresses and send out a blind carbon copy e-bulk e-mail for the date, time and place of the first meeting. Again, thanks for the interest.
 
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“Are kids allowed?” - No, not at this time (at least, none under the age of 18). Procedures such as hide scraping or cutting a fireboard involve the use of knives and we just don’t need the liability issues. Sorry.
Once a person reaches eighteen years of age, they are generally not a "kid" anymore.

This is just a cop-out. Sorry, too.

If you can't teach a child to be responsible with a pocketknife, I seriously doubt you are going to reach your other lofty goals of tolerance and no talk of religion or politics. And if you can't tell the parent of a hardheaded, ignorant child that cannot be taught to be safe with a pocketknife to hit the road, you're doomed from the start.

You talk about The Great Depression Era and other things to invoke this spirit, but when it comes right down to it, you are just mirroring the State you live in, California. All "tolerance" unless you disgaree with a liberal. Can't trust kids with a pocketknife, who needs the authorities with you folks around? :rolleyes:
 
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I really think this is a good idea. I would actually love to be apart of the community were it not for the fact that it was in california. I personally want to stay away from the lower west coast. Were this commune in Idaho or one of the Dakotas i'd be all over it.
 
#16 ·
You have odd taste in women.
Come down to california lots of beautiful women all waiting for Mr. Right.
I get a kick taking a woman down to the woods for a hike, its like watching a baby eat a lemon weird faces mixed with wonder and awe.

I might just join up could you post some pics of you and your group?
 
#18 ·
Seems to me people are leaving Cali, not going there. Gotta be a reason, and after spending time there in the military, I'd never go back.

Think I'll stay where I'm at and do without. Must be some folks around me now that can provide the same service without the liberal PC crap.
 
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Seems to me people are leaving Cali, not going there. Gotta be a reason, and after spending time there in the military, I'd never go back. ....
I was stationed there was well.......El Toro and Tustin, back in '80-86. It got bad back then , with the traffic anf gangs, and wildfires, etc....couldn't wait to get out. The only good thing was I met a girl whose family had a horse ranch in the San Berandino foothills, so we'd go riding up in those hills alot,,,,even camped.........camping by horseback is a blast.
 
#19 ·
Most of California sucks testicles I live in southern California sure the weather is nice and there is a beach near by but take those away and California is just really expensive. I wanna move but am stuck here at the moment if California would change gun laws I would be fine
 
#23 ·
solution for ya!



i happen to know a guy here on the boards that is in england and he can take out hordes of raiders with his spear and knife! seek his protection! :D:

sorry fox, not saying anything about you, this guy just sets off my warped sense of humor. im sure there are some over there. or start your own! :thumb: best to you and yours
 
#22 ·
In California????

wouldnt setting up shop in california be counter-intuitive to survival? Earthquakes, hordes of "zombies" from the big cities looking for food/water/resources, huge criminal population, LaRaza and other extremists, serious taxation and government over control, overly strict gun laws, etc. i would think that idaho, wyoming, monanta, nevada, north/south dakota would be great for that.
 
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wouldnt setting up shop in california be counter-intuitive to survival? Earthquakes, hordes of "zombies" from the big cities looking for food/water/resources, huge criminal population, LaRaza and other extremists, serious taxation and government over control, overly strict gun laws, etc. i would think that idaho, wyoming, monanta, nevada, north/south dakota would be great for that.
It's just goofiness anyway. When do they plan on teaching the kids of the members how to safely do things to keep themselves alive? After everything goes to hell and a cut might cost them their life or something?

This is just goofy.
 
#26 ·
Hi Determu-

I don't know how comfortable I would be posting anyone's (myself included) picture on the web. This would include you if you decided to be a part of this. I am also going to be sending out a bulk e-mail blind carbon copy so that no one's e-mail address is visible. Not paranoid, just trying to respect people's wish for privacy. Anyway, it looks like it's shaping up to get together on the last Saturday in August. Send an e-mail if you are interested. Unfortunately between work, family, and getting out on the ground in the mountains I don't have a lot of time to check this and respond so I won't be posting anymore here but I sincerely appreciate your interest. Hope to see you there-all the best to you-
 
#32 ·
To the Op, there are a number of groups of people doing this sort of thing up here in my area. Your idea has some merit, probably the wrong place to advertise it.

My best friend Mark trains people as arborists, trains in horselogging, animal husbandry, milling and a number of other forgotten arts. The first thing he did was a create a non profit organisation based on this teaching of sustainable timber operation. This gives him a legal framework and some legal protections within this scope. My son Nathan 15 is training as an arborist and in horse logging and in running the wood mill right now.

There is also a group of Menninites that recently bought an 800 acre place the other side of Deary, they also have created a non profit organisation and now teach old fashioned farming techniques, gardening, blacksmithing, horse shoeing, animal husbandry and a number of other classes.

There are a number of other groups in this area doing things like this and pretty much all of them have a non profit status. And yes there is a hippy type group here as well, but they are one family of hippys and have a farm raising hay and horses, seem to me to be good people, they have been here for 2 to 3 years now.

If you want to do something like you are talking about you should define it well and get a non profit status through your local government. Then you need to before advertising make two or three dry runs even if it is only two local people. With those two local people you can pictures and gain a small history that can be shown to others. You will likely be confined at first to people in your immediate area.

Good luck on your idea and endeavors.
 
#33 ·
It's a great idea. Getting it to grow and evolve, especially in Cali., I wish you good luck. I would have to meet some of the others over pizza and beer a few times and see how they are before considering even camping a night with them. Just too many weird people these days. I wish I had the land, I'd get the few friends and my family together on the odd weekend to do something like this.
 
#35 ·
Checking In

Hi all-

Got a little free time so I thought I'd check in. A lot of good input here from other people! Thank you. I liked the one about going for a non-profit status but I'm not sure we want to be limited by the parameters that might be required to gain that status. Besides, no money will be used or exchanged. Thanks for the suggestion though. Also, it's not a commune-just a group of people who get together at regular intervals, exchange self-reliant skills and ideas, and go back to our respective homes at the end of the day. I'm a firm believer that the best time to find out if something works or if it's a perpetuation of a myth IS NOT when you actually need the skills.

At any rate, the FIRST MEETING for this group will be held on SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 3RD at 9:00 A.M. Send an e-mail to huntertrapper@yahoo.com for the location, a little more information, and directions if you are interested (and close enough). We are in the San Bernardino mountains in Southern California.
 
#37 ·
Hello, my names Brandon. I'm 18 years old and am looking for advice on living completely self reliant in Hawaii. I know about survival and have studied it for the north American forest but never in a tropicL climate. Any suggestions on where to start?
 
#40 ·
Hi Brandon-

You are lucky to live in Hawaii if you are a hunter-I believe it's $95 for a permit and you can shoot a lot of things for meat as there are many introduced species that they don't want. Leonard Lee Rue has a great book on hunting that I have in my library but the name escapes me at the moment. Hopefully someone else will come up with the name. As far as wild edibles, I would do an internet search for Hawaii. As you type different species you can find out what their uses are at this website:

www.pfaf.org

Since the tropical climate is pretty easy I would probably focus on growing some vegetables on my property, maybe chickens and rabbits too. Check out a book called "Possum Living" by Dolly Freed.

If you really want to go all out self-reliance there are two good books I would recommend:

"Primitive Wilderness Living & Survival Skills" by John and Gerri McPherson

http://www.prairiewolf.net/store/store_product_detail.cfm?Product_ID=1&Category_ID=1

and

"Outdoor Survival Skills" by Larry Dean Olsen

Amazon.com: Outdoor Survival Skills (9781556523236): Larry Dean Olsen, Robert Redford: Books

The McPhersons taught Les Stroud (Survivorman) and Cody Lundin (Dual Survival). They know their stuff and have lived primitive for decades. They can walk out in the woods without even a knife and surivive. Larry Dean Olsen used to take kids out into the wild in Utah where they would survive for weeks. One of the originators of the primitive technology movement.

One last thing: if you want to get more self-reliant with your normal household living arrangements, these are pretty cool sites:

http://www.greenpowerscience.com/
www.otherpower.com

I hope this is of some use to you. Best of luck to you-
 
#38 ·
Ever heard of WACO? They will hunt you down and call you Militia. Especially being in the peoples republic of California. Good luck!