Just seen this on Fox News, didn't see it posted here. They're saying that "explosions are imminent" and they are evacuating everybody in the area. Lots of hazardous materials on board. Been burning since Friday but today is the first time i've heard about it on the news.
NE Ohio Train Derailment
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I think it was Lynn, OH.
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Well the governors office headed by mike deswine says the water is safe to drink now.
Residents of East Palestine, Ohio, were told Wednesday afternoon that municipal water is "safe to drink" after officials received new water testing results. The update from Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine's office comes just one day after officials urged residents to only drink bottled water amid concerns that chemicals from the Feb. 3 train derailment may have seeped into local water sources.
As of Wednesday afternoon, municipal water testing results showed "no detection of contaminants in raw water from the five wells that feed into East Palestine's municipal water system," the governor's office said in a news release.
The new results also show that the treated water from the wells – located about one mile from the train derailment site – showed "no detection of contaminants associated with the derailment."
"With these test results, Ohio EPA is confident that the municipal water is safe to drink," the state said.
Officials say East Palestine testing results show municipal water is "safe to drink" following toxic train derailment
Residents of East Palestine, Ohio, were told Wednesday afternoon that municipal water is "safe to drink" after officials received new water testing results. The update from Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine's office comes just one day after officials urged residents to only drink bottled water amid concerns that chemicals from the Feb. 3 train derailment may have seeped into local water sources.
As of Wednesday afternoon, municipal water testing results showed "no detection of contaminants in raw water from the five wells that feed into East Palestine's municipal water system," the governor's office said in a news release.
The new results also show that the treated water from the wells – located about one mile from the train derailment site – showed "no detection of contaminants associated with the derailment."
"With these test results, Ohio EPA is confident that the municipal water is safe to drink," the state said.
Officials say East Palestine testing results show municipal water is "safe to drink" following toxic train derailment
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Perhaps they figure if the people drink the water and die quick enough, they won't have to pay as many settlements?
Someone posted a picture of the agreement that the railroad tried to get them to sign in order for them to test the property.
Someone posted a picture of the agreement that the railroad tried to get them to sign in order for them to test the property.
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I don't buy the water's fine in East Palestine. Maybe AFTER special treatment but consider the percentage of folks in that area with wells who aren't going to be drinking treated water
They're finding chemicals related to East Palestine in the water in Huntington WV and another place on the Ohio river {don't recall name but it was about 50 miles down river}.
They're finding chemicals related to East Palestine in the water in Huntington WV and another place on the Ohio river {don't recall name but it was about 50 miles down river}.
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Maybe the tide is turning ,little josh is chiming in now.
Pennsylvania Governor Blasts Norfolk Southern for ‘Vent and Burn’ Plan
Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro is blasting Norfolk Southern Corp. for its handling of a Feb. 3 train derailment that spewed Hazardous chemicals in in East Palestine, Ohio, near the Pennsylvania state line.
In a letter to Norfolk Southern President and CEO Alan Shaw, Shapiro excoriates the railway for acting unilaterally, failing to establish a Unified Command, and creating confusion that resulted in a general lack of awareness for first responders and emergency management of Norfolk Southern’s response.
Shapiro asserts the railway gave “inaccurate information and conflicting modeling about the impact of the controlled release that made protective action decision making more difficult in the immediate aftermath of the derailment.”
And the governor says Norfolk Southern’s “unwillingness to explore or articulate alternate courses of action to their proposed vent and burn limited state and local leaders to respond effectively.”
Pennsylvania Governor Blasts Norfolk Southern for 'Vent and Burn' Plan In Aftermath of Train Derailment - The Ohio Star
Pennsylvania Governor Blasts Norfolk Southern for ‘Vent and Burn’ Plan
Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro is blasting Norfolk Southern Corp. for its handling of a Feb. 3 train derailment that spewed Hazardous chemicals in in East Palestine, Ohio, near the Pennsylvania state line.
In a letter to Norfolk Southern President and CEO Alan Shaw, Shapiro excoriates the railway for acting unilaterally, failing to establish a Unified Command, and creating confusion that resulted in a general lack of awareness for first responders and emergency management of Norfolk Southern’s response.
Shapiro asserts the railway gave “inaccurate information and conflicting modeling about the impact of the controlled release that made protective action decision making more difficult in the immediate aftermath of the derailment.”
And the governor says Norfolk Southern’s “unwillingness to explore or articulate alternate courses of action to their proposed vent and burn limited state and local leaders to respond effectively.”
Pennsylvania Governor Blasts Norfolk Southern for 'Vent and Burn' Plan In Aftermath of Train Derailment - The Ohio Star
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No sir:
"FEMA may provide accelerated Federal assistance and support where necessary to save lives, prevent human suffering, or mitigate severe damage, even in the absence of a specific request."
...the PDF will not link, if you paste the above quote into Google the 16 page PDF will be at the top of your search
Name of PDF:
List of Authorities and References - FEMA
Link that refuses to work once I cut and paste it:
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Page 3. It even addresses the fact that waiting to be called should not slow response.
Given what I have seen of the water contamination potential this definitely qualifies.
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Am sure that the water in the wells are safe to drink...
Until the chemicals seep into the groundwater.
This takes time.
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No Name,
Agree.
This rail transport is Fed.
Just about anything crossing state lines can be Fed.
Yesterday's NTSB reports were definitely Fed-flavored.
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Yep, that came out of Katrina. "It's Bush's fault" and all that BS, because local authorities refused to ask a hated right-winger for help. People are retarded ...
On the water testing good, they are most likely testing tap water. They're not testing Grandpa's fishing pond out back. Every statement uses carefully chosen word, lots of double-speak. "Oh, we never said it was ok to camp in the woods. We ONLY said you could go home." type of bull****. So someone's 5 chickens died, that's not good, but not seeing a ton of bad news coming out of this. Possible the lack of coverage is due to a lack of news? I know everyone's slow to release info, but is it possible there were isolated incidents where the chems didn't burn completely?
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I'm thinking it has to do with the ruralness of the area. Not a lot of people there. Plus I think that most of this is going to take time to see the effects. It's probably not that you become exposed and immediately keel over and die, but rather you develop serious health issues over time.
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I think you're right, and I hope we're both wrong.
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Well, yes and no sir...
The Stafford Act does provide where the Feds MAY involve themselves in an incident without invitation but it does not create a mandate. Don't take this as me defending the Feds because I am not doing that.
I don't want to get too deep into this because I have no interest in debating law on a message board. I have better uses of my time.
But I will say that the Response Phase of any incident is entirely under the control of the local Incident Commander. This may have just moved into the Recovery Phase. Gov't agencies such as FEMA, NTSB, EPA and the Fed Transportation Department come mostly in the Recovery, Preparedness or Mitigation Phases. An exception is the NTSB are active to preserve evidence because they will be determining the cause of this incident.
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You're right it was North Lima,OH
North Lima woman finds chickens dead Tuesday, questions chemical release from train
People across the Mahoning Valley — including those who live in Mahoning and Trumbull counties — reported smelling chlorine after Monday’s controlled release in East Palestine. Of…
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I heard a report the the Ohio River system feeds water to 10% of the U.S. population.
If that's true, it presents a problem for millions of people.
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This entire debacle stinks of corruption, arrogance, and incompetence at the highest levels of industry, and government.
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It's getting harder and harder to believe this was mere incompetence and an accident.
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Now there is a derailment near Detroit.
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That's crazy.. Even if this is Not this OH derail - Who just Sits there and watches Obviously Chem-Tankers roll over off their tracks in Front of them??!!
I'da been 'Welp, think my kettles on the boil, Gotta go, CYA!!' and been 180-haulinass in about 0.5 sec.. <smdh>.02
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