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I dont remember that.

i remember that the media pulled no punches on lying about constitutionalists, about clinton and Gang making them out to be KKK and Nazi sympathisers and those who dared to become loud were dismissed and the start of the cancel culture occurred.
Sometimes the truth is something we cannot handle. The constitutionalists and patriots are not to be confused by the anti-immigrant movement that sought socialist solutions to the issue. You no longer hear the issue being framed from a constitutionalist - patriot perspective. The nutty wall idea was left wing and the so - called "Minutemen" were National Socialists. I've been called every name in the book for pointing this out. It wasn't that we didn't have an issue to address; the right simply got played by the left and now they cannot admit that they were had.
 

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I genuinely wish that those 40 and younger would look up the old guard and the things they did and are doing again. Left a link earlier so you could see some of it for yourself.
 

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The nutty wall idea was left wing
that nutty wall is in fact a good idea, but not for keeping undocumented people out. It is a good idea to slow the flow of drugs into the country. you can see the damage being caused in almost every city or town "drug addicts living in the streets" for some reason our government is giving up on the WAR ON DRUGS. and we see the results every day
 

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The nutty wall idea was left wing
that nutty wall is in fact a good idea, but not for keeping undocumented people out. It is a good idea to slow the flow of drugs into the country. you can see the damage being caused in almost every city or town "drug addicts living in the streets" for some reason our government is giving up on the WAR ON DRUGS. and we see the results every day
A wall that required the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify to be passed on the pretext of enforcing said wall was a terrible idea. If you recall, BEFORE National ID, the patriot community (for lack of a more descriptive adjective) had the 16th Amendment (the income tax and the IRS) on the ropes and we nearly got rid of income the income tax and the IRS. National ID was passed on the pretext of enforcing the nutty wall idea. Instead, it saved the IRS and the income tax. It created a system whereby the people could be monitored 24 / 7 / 365. The nutty wall idea gave rise to the idiotic concept of a Constitution Free Zone - any area within 100 miles of the border, suspending the Constitution on the pretext of enforcing the wall. Let's not forget the assaults on the Fourth Amendment on the pretext of enforcing these draconian immigration laws.

Ultimately when Trump's signature legislation was tested in the court of public opinion, Trump lost. That is not to say we don't have an issue. We do. It's just that it cannot be fixed with the wall as a solution - the masses are against the idea. So, you have to look at other avenues.

Drugs are only an issue because we allowed it to be and it has little to do with people from south of the border. Drug addicts are being created by parents, schools, the government, doctors / psychiatrists, and Big Pharma. Every ache, pain, and headache cause the system to go into over-drive, prescribing drugs for non-existent conditions like ADD / ADHD, etc. We start drugging children and giving them Ritalin, Adderall, then later the system progresses and gives children SSRIs. By the age of 26, IF a child makes it that long, they have a drug habit, a criminal record, no job skills, no coping skills, and are unemployable. Their career will be a drug addict and they will sell their bodies or push drugs. The people in the United States consume over 80 percent of the world's opioid supply, but are less than 5 percent of the world's population. ALL of that was created in house, by Americans (parents, school officials, doctors, etc.) and once you've made the addict, you then blame the people from south of the border for a condition you created all on your own. BTW, did you know that every mass shooting that involved more than 3 victims was done by a political jihadist OR a person who had been under the care or currently are under the care of a psychologist, psychiatrist or other doctor and virtually all of them had been prescribed SSRIs? We're blaming profiteers for a problem we, the American people, are creating.

The wall was a terrible idea and one of the few that caused the demise of the Republican Party. It did not solve any problem; it exacerbated a condition that gave foreigners a path to reduce America to a third world country. There were and are much better solutions.
 

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the wall has it's merits, just look in most any US city today you see homeless ( large numbers are drug addicts) drug trafficking should be treated like an a terrorist organization
locate the leaders and send in the drones.
the fact is the government has given up on the war on drugs and we can see the results in our streets every day
how many people died in 9-11 VS the number that have died in the 70 years that drugs have been brought into our country?????????
 

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the wall has it's merits, just look in most any US city today you see homeless ( large numbers are drug addicts) drug trafficking should be treated like an a terrorist organization
locate the leaders and send in the drones.
the fact is the government has given up on the war on drugs and we can see the results in our streets every day
how many people died in 9-11 VS the number that have died in the 70 years that drugs have been brought into our country?????????
Brushing your teeth with Drano will get your teeth white, but you will probably die of poison. You should reread the first paragraph of my last post. According to Benjamin Franklin he who would give up essential Liberty for the promise of temporary Safety deserves neither Liberty nor Safety.

History has shown us that once you make that trade, you end up with neither so Franklin was spot on.
 

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Brushing your teeth with Drano will get your teeth white, but you will probably die of poison. You should reread the first paragraph of my last post. According to Benjamin Franklin he who would give up essential Liberty for the promise of temporary Safety deserves neither Liberty nor Safety.

History has shown us that once you make that trade, you end up with neither so Franklin was spot on.
Ben was right, and the ones that give it up are punks, who weigh down the rest of society, with their groveling.
 

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ON A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ASSOCIATED TOPIC.....I used to watch teams practice movemnt drills at airsoft facilities. Its been decades since I did that but these guys reaked of recent deployments in hostile invironments. They stood out amongst the usual Larpers going for the look but nothing more. Definite movement drills, often in three fire squads (sorry, its been decades and my Army had NCOs who had served in Viet Nam).

Have you guys noticed airsoft being used like this? I thought it was brilliant. NO LOCATIONS OR NAMES PLEASE.

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Have you guys noticed airsoft being used like this? I thought it was brilliant. NO LOCATIONS OR NAMES PLEASE.
It has probably been 25+ years since I last played paintball (was no airsoft then) but any time you got more than one person with military training on the same side, it was impressive and at least a bit intimidating. I just don't have time for that stuff anymore, but I spend a fair amount of time on Reddit, and a lot of the airsoft guys are ponying up for real gear, running drills, etc. For as much as some of them run their mouths, I think some of them do have the real experience and are using airsoft as a stand-in for live fire training due to the ammo situation.

COVID restrictions scrapped my training plans for last year, but in the past, it was easy to pick out the combat vets in classes, especially in partner/team drills and such. Unfortunately, I don't know anyone like that in "real life" and don't see myself getting into airsoft.
 
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The biggest potential problem with a group of minute men is training and organization. Who's going to lead? Who's going to strategize? I'll defer to ex-military to direct me through the paces ... a bunch of semi-auto range rats isn't worth much on their own without cohesive unit management and purpose.

As to gear, take a look at the regulars in any LGS ... not newbies, but real gun folks. There will be a mix of ARs and AKs, along with the hunters and their deer rifles. The ex-mil / LEO crowd will probably have a smattering of .308s and SBRs, and the vintage guys will bring their Mosins. There might even be a Gecko45 clown or two showing up in his mall ninja "Glock 'em All" costume. It will be the same rag tag collection from 240 years ago, except with higher quality firearms, more ammo, and dressed better.
Leaders must read "Complete Ownership" by Jocko Willinks, and Leif Babin. Necessary.
 

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A little known fact is that "Minute Companies" were in use in the area of Texas known as the "Nueces Strip" as late as 1860...the 'War With Mexico' didnt completely cease..bandits such as Cheno Cortina kept the war alive for years,causing locals to form protection squads....the concept would today serve neighborhoods and rural districts,,,
 

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Extreme Ownership (link). It's a great book, as is the sequel The Dichotomy of Leadership (link) where he addresses some of the critiques on the first book.
Minute Men were an example of early first responders: but I would bet that if I was to read up on American society at the time, I would be sorely disappointed .There were Loyalists who really stunk things up for any militia, there must have been. And the Loyalists must have ratted them out at every opportunity. Leading to arrests and confiscations of goods, houses and lands. I figure that it was tough the be a Minute Man.

And that’s before any shooting took place, everywhere in the Colonies. And I am certain that the Hessians were more than happy to burn the houses and barns, of any Minute Man that they captured.

Anyhow, as my opinion on things, there are no born leaders, but there are those men who catch on fast, like Patton & Rommel. And I use those two as my first models of leadership, fighting and generalship. And then there are the hard fighters which any militia needs, they just gotta have them in the ranks.

As my next paradigm for a leader, I choose Ceaser: read and implement his thinking, and that is a fine way, to teach yourself leadership and generalship too. Those three are my exemplars of the best of the military mind, in action. Contrarily , I think that Sun Tzu was a punk and a thug.
 

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That is pretty contrarian.
Cantankerous mostly.
And antithetical to popular venerations of him, so common in today’s milieu; but Sun Tzu was a punk, all the same.

The guy killed without remorse, pretty much like a psychopath would do. It is one thing to be a good fighter, and a great general, but it is another to be a cold blooded killer. That is something that no one should be: and he killed the innocent, when he murdered the concubines.
 
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