This in regards to anything?

 

Sure they could be the first to loot roadblock

 

They could also be the first to be organized enough to maintain law & order.

 

Lol yeah I wouldn't be taken any direction from some militia guy.

 

They can be.
Government sponsored militias have been used to intimidate and kill political rivals, and "secret armies" have acted against civilian populations in Italy, Portugal, and Spain during the hysteria of the Cold War.

A well armed and capable civilian population remains the best check against tyranny - no matter who's carrying it out.

 

Threat?

Maybe if you're a statist jack boot, foreign invader, looter, or otherwise up to no good.

 

Sure a element of them would turn on the population. They are already equipped to do so.

 

I'm pretty sure this thread http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=882754

is what started this thread.

 

Yah, and I think that prior media false representation of militia is what has skewed some folks thoughts (perhaps this threads OP-dunno honestly) on what a true militia is.

What a true militia does.

What a true militia is for.

Militia is everyone, organized as needs be. That’s all.

If they are organized by some off the wall leaning group, then they are not true militia.

Pretty simple really.

Also not a threat, or I should say far less of a threat as a “gang” as normal folk would use the term in today’s world.

As an example that MS13 group has folks whom have no problem committing horrendous violent killings using machetes and such. That’s in today’s normalcy. In today’s law and order. In today’s America.

 

Militia won’t work in The larger cities , but in Rural & ultra rural and cities under 100k and counties under 200k population Militias will thrive and be welcomed overall ...

 

I still am not sure what this militia thing is you speak of, the only definition that I consider accurate is every loyal citizen to the Constitution of the United States of America capable and willing to bear arms against all enemies both foreign and domestic.JMHO

 

Loyal to what...

Without rule of law your putting faith in some group to act as the law....

No thank you. I for one don't need ten dudes trying to play Rambo around here. Mean while they start demanding you support them food and supplies.

I could see them looting and raping because they Wil be the first to grab power.

 

Militia groups are very few and very far between. They really aren't that strong except on a local basis in only in certain states. A good example might be in rural Minnesota outside the larger cities and further west. Most of the groups consist of maybe a dozen members or so at most.

I once saw a recruitment photo of 5 new members to a local militia group 3 of the 5 new members were police officers I knew by name and had worked with in the field. So that's another point that should be considered: not all militia groups are actually 100% honest members because different people take an interest in militia groups for different reasons.

 

A valid threat when you put them together.

I would certainly hope they're a valid threat. Maintaining the right of the people to remain dangerous to tyranny is the whole point of the 2A, after all. If "the militia" which consists of every free American, other than some politicians, isn't dangerous, they're shirking their duty as free people.

 

This.

And the deep state has no reason to fear us, if they have no agenda to harm us or our rights/freedoms.

 

Get ready for a lot of chest beating on this topic! Thanks to the OP for posting the question this will be fun to read.

 

Are the militia a threat?

I certainly hope so.

For the most part they are organized put together train once a month have some weapons training skills and some basic tactics.

A valid threat when you put them together.

Sounds like a valid group to join. We should be so lucky to have a group like that in our area.

Unfortunately, a lot of them are just a club, not well equipped, organized or trained and don't live up to the name. Not a particular threat and not the asset they should be.

 

A militia protects their local area from threats against their community, they don't engage in operations outside of their local area. Once they go outside of their local area they are no longer considered a militia but are considered an army.

The chain of command structure is militia's take direction from their local sheriff, the sheriff takes direction from the mayor, the mayor takes direction from the governor.

Militia's are not some evil mad max BS thing the media portraits them to be, they are your neighbors, friends and family and protect their community from outside treats, without the militia there would not be anyone to protect the weak from being preyed upon and no law and order, it would be an every man for themselves type of situation in areas where no militia exists...

 

A militia protects their local area from threats against their community, they don't engage in operations outside of their local area. Once they go outside of their local area they are no longer considered a militia but are considered an army.

The chain of command structure is militia's take direction from their local sheriff, the sheriff takes direction from the mayor, the mayor takes direction from the governor.

Militia's are not some evil mad max BS thing the media portraits them to be, they are your neighbors, friends and family and protect their community from outside treats, without the militia there would not be anyone to protect the weak from being preyed upon and no law and order, its would be an every man for themselves type of situation in areas where no militia exists...

What leo or mayor is going to order them around. They distrust the government and never once have I see one work with leos.

If I was a cop I wouldn't want some random with guns running around protecting my town.

 

I don't know anything about militias, but here in Northern Ireland there are a few 'organisations' with political aims and grudges. In collapse they would probably go up to the bog and excavate a cache or two, then go around collecting protection money. But as the groups oppose each other, they should soon get into the business of killing each other, using up their limited ammunition supplies, and most of them have no actual shooting experience, so hide your supplies well and they will soon burn themselves out

 

RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS

The text of the Second Amendment reads in full: “A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

https://www.history.com/topics/2nd-amendment

 

Janet Reno is that you? Seriously why feed the trolls. If he's not logical enough to grasp the concept of the intent and purpose of the milita as well as the fact there are jagoffs in every group then nothing you say will change his mind.

More importantly if your only knowledge and dealings with this topic come from sitting in front of the TV and watching the "watchmen" episode or vice then you need to reevaluate how you obtain information, most legitimate groups are not going to run around in front of the camera for entertainment not because they have anything to hide but primarily because of inept and biased media reporting.

Simple fact is there are Walter Mittys out there everywhere. More often than not that is what you'll see on tv.

 

And next he'll say, "since you don't know who they are, and they have the power(guns), to keep EVERYBODY safe, we should take ALL the guns away from everyone. That way the militia boogeyman can't rape my dog and beat my boyfriend!"

That is where his predictable logic goes.

People in militia=BAD. Guns and militia=BAD(power). So, Second Amendment must be constrained to keep BAD people from having the "power".

Now watch, I'll receive an insult for short-circuiting the "argument".

 

Never said militias are bad just I don't see the majority of them helping when they relizse they have the power and no law exists.

 

When it all comes down the NG & Military and Leos will chew on bigger cities until they melt back into the populace (Go home to protect their own families , properties, communities, business, church, friends & neighbors, that special hole in the rockies or Cascades ... and when they melt back they will know that as a defensive force they need numbers and to work as a Militia is a time tested and successful option .

 

Our Militia was vetted rigorously ( Some platoons demanded a current valid California CCW and others used services that vet people ) We were not rife with felons and neckbeard pot trimmers & growers with criminal records , we had Former Military & Leos & County Supervisors and Congressional Candidates and Clergy and successful Doctors & Lawyers ...

 

And another, and another and so on.

Evil only exists because the doers of evil are protected. Let the ROL go, and you'll notice a severe clean-up.

Don't be on the wrong side.

 

My state constitution authorizes a state militia. This state has a bunch of militia armories. Over the process of time those have all been handed over to the state National Guard [a budgetary and political hot potato].

There is an active militia here, when I first moved to this state I looked at the militia. It was mostly out-of-shape civilians who had given each other office ranks. As a career NCO, I have an issue saluting anyone who gets an officer collar device from a cracker-jack box.

But the ARRL club is a part of the militia, and whenever each municipality does their FEMA required disaster drills ARRL shows up and sets up a comms center. All state, local and FEMA FD / FD / etc, all reply heavy on the ARRL guys. If I were ever to get a ham license, the only reason would be for me to have an 'in' with the ARRL club. They are functionally a sub-division of the state militia.

 

Heard of state run ones never seen it. I agree with you on the made up rank and saluting.

 

 

Easy way to test this theory.

This is the redneck revolt a cute little anti facist anti racist militia.

https://www.redneckrevolt.org

Are they a threat?

Edit. I just noticed their slogan.

Putting the red back in to redneck.

Funny.

 

During my years as a street cop, I never knew of any "Militias" breaking the law. Dangerous Militias were (and still are) mostly figments of the leftist media's imagination.

 

Where have you been? It's a mix of them acting as extreme mental cases or some are very helpful. They bring water and food to the disaster recovery areas.

What you keep putting off is the reality that people are just humans and without rule of law. They will do whatever they feel like.

 

I doubt this troll has been far from his mamma's basement......

 

What a wonderful thought out reply. Glad you can critically think.