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#1 ·
So my cousin lives in Michigan with his wife. He went to Mich State and she's from Mich. Family still lives there. He recently bought a car from our family business (Volvo C30), great little car. Anyway, he called because he is thinking of selling it. His wife lost her job and the payments are too much. Anyway, I ask him if things are that bad.....

He proceeds to tell me that unemployment is 30%. People are stealing from grocery stores on a regular basis. He is employed by the state policy in an analysis type positions. He tells me that this winter, the state can only afford to plow ONCE during snow storms. The one time plow will be for one lane only and will NOT include sand or salt. WTF?! So why not move? He's from maine and his family is still there. They have their own business. I know he could help there. Well, he can't sell his house. Who wants to move to Michigan right now?

So the best thing I felt I could do is share with him the little I've learned about prepping and tell him to hang in. It really broke my heart to hear how bad it is.

Why do we not hear more about this? I mean, I think I know the answer, but dammit....just ****es me off I guess.
 
#2 ·
yeah. it's pretty bad here, our socialist governor, (friend of Barack) is basically responsible for 50%, the auto industry problems, the other 50%

I have been unemployed for several months myself.
yesterday on the "Michigan works" website, there were 1,041,000 resumes available and 41 jobs available that day.
I am not exaggerating this.
The unemployment rate is not quite 30% but it is closer to 20.
ANd he is correct about the plowing situation.
The state has had to suspend business on severl days to save money and we laid off 100 troopers. (I'm not a fan of law enforcement in general, but this is an economic indicator)

God help us all.
 
#4 ·
I am also in Michigan. My son is working and has had the same job for the last 5 years. The company he works for is run by a real good businessman. They do not count on any one industry. Being diverse is the way to go in Manufacturing and service work. They are a cnc drilling and machine shop. My wife is a Nurse and is working more hours now then she ever has due to downsizing of thier work force in the healthcare industry. Having a college degree still gets you the better jobs. My daughter and daughter inlaw are both nurses as well and are both working full time. As for me I have done what I feel more Americans need to do right now. Start a business. Start small and build something that is being manufactured cheaply in China and build it better. Build just enough to support you and your family. We need to take back our jobs by making quality our trademark once again. Let the outsourcing traitors stay there. Let thier goods rot on the shipping docks. Let thier foriegn investments dry up and break them.

I started a fishing lure company in 2003 in my basement with one router table and a 75 dollar airbrush. Each lure was hand crafted and ran true. I sold more every year as the word got out that we built quality baits. in 2006 I quit my job and went full time and have not looked back. My clients today include the finest Musky fishermen in the world including the current world record release holder. My little basement lure compnay still has zero debts and is now worth over $100,000.00 . The funny thing is , I cant even begin to build enough lures to satisfy the demand for quality lures.

The truth is , people are fed up with garbage products that fall apart. They are fed up with our jobs going to other countries and they want quality back in their lives. There are millions of products being outsourced by companies who built thier reputations with American quality and then found a cheaper, faster way to rake in huge short term profits. You owe these people nothing!!!!!!!!! Why do you feed them?????? every time you spend a dime on thier garbage you sink another American job. Go to war with them people!! fight for your country!! start a business and take back the products and market from these traitors who sold us out. Let die where they placed thier faith. Kingfish
 
#7 ·
Azreal, I hear more people saying they want to leave or actually doing more every day. At a family party the other day my niece and her boyfriend are hoping to get a job in New York and move there. My ex husband already left for New York in April. Its bad here, but the budget isnt balanced yet .(so much bickering the state govt is very divided the dems and republicans can never agree )Im sure with some of that stimulus money they will find a way to plow the roads. Isnt that nice? We are living off the great grandkids now.
 
#8 ·
It's a shame, because our state is beautiful... has amazing resources... and really good people (for the most part). In one word, I describe it as "decay." I grew up in the "eastside" suburbs and now live in the "westside" suburbs and I see it all. It's ugly. There are still lots of people working, but there are lots who are not. Businesses are closing left and right, and retail is hit hard. I'm seeing restaurants closing, empty shopping centers, blight, unoccupied houses, closed schools, bare grocery stores. Even the more "upscale" suburbs are losing retail space and facing mass home foreclosures.

It sickened me to hear all over the news yesterday about our state governments decision to pursue "revenue generating elements" to balance the state budget. It's a euphemism for "taxes." More taxes, more taxes, more taxes. No trimming the fat... no using intelligence or wisdom to come up with a true plan for balancing the budget... no creative solutions or brainstorming on good ideas. Just taxes for hard-working people and business owners.

The state is going to die, and it saddens me. And it's only because we have greedy, unethical, out-of-touch idiots running it.
 
#13 ·
Dont quit on us yet , This state will not die. Gradholm will not be re elected this time and we will find the right person to lead us out of this mess. If you remember it all started with Blanchard in the 80,s AS WE STARTED DOWN THAT ROAD TO RUIN With the Bush and Clinton policies of free trade. Reagan had not even left the Whitehouse and Bush sr. was crafting Nafta. Blanchard and Engler both embraced the new world order plan of a Global economy. These two IDIOTS are the reason we lost the Auto industry. Grandholm is just another puppet of marxism like Obama and the Clintons, McCains and Bushes. She was educated and indoctrinated at a socialist college in California and is a Canadian .( All Canadians are not socialists) Grandholm is . It ,s going to boil down to States rights and state soveriegnty and the fight is coming. We need a warrior in Lansing this time. We need an independant constitutionalist to stand up and say we will not play any more. This state can impose its own tarrifs and its own tea party. You call it decay, I call it good riddence. Now that they have left and taken thier businesses with them I say lets SHUT THE FREAKIN DOOR behind them!!!!!!! STOP BUYING THEIR PRODUCTS!!! buy local, support your neighbors. Grow your own food, do your part to crush this Global threat. In short dont feed the BEAST. Kingfish
 
#12 ·
The main problem in Michigan is the same as the rest of the country. Overbloated government, Government operating outside of the constitution and the removal of trade tarrifs that kept balance in our economies. The race to the bottom was predicted by Ross Perot in the 90's. He was right and everyone else was wrong its that simple. You want the jobs back? Take them back. What most of you are blind to is the fact that this was planned by Global elite bankers who have raped trillions in short term loan profits from every company that moves offshore. Companies were and still are lured by lower operating costs via cheap labor and zero epa standards to abandon American factories and move to every new Nafta , cafta or other trade deal country where they set up shop and manufacture the products you have been buying for years. Up until the Clinton years this was not possible. Tarrifs protected our standard of living keeping the dollar strong and jobs here. Yea some products were priced a little higher but the money (STAYED HERE!!!) Now it goes to Nicaragua, Korea, China, Mexico etc etc etc. You all wonder why our country is falling apart??? The money is not staying here. Its that simple people. If we embrace a global economy we will lose the United States of America as will the rest of the world lose thier own soveriegnty. To remain independant and free we must return to moderate protectionism( not isolationism) W e need to stop the outflow of companies by blocking thier ability to produce offshore and sell back here. For instance if Chevrolet wants to build cars in Korea let them sell them there as well. NOT HERE. We can not have it both ways To embrace a world economy is to embrace world government. Freedom is independence from one rule. Kingfish
 
#14 ·
As a lifelong Michigander, I know that we are a state full of hard working and smart people. We have a great work ethic and are tough.

Growth from industrialization made this state great in the early 20th century, and the return to this will be the key to a turnaround. We need to help small businesses thrive and grow. This is done by creating an environment of LOW taxes and minimal regulation.

This war on coal-fired electrical plants is amazing. We cannot allow our elected officials be a bunch of tree huggers that outlaw electricity usage! Solar power is not efficient here due to geography, and wind is not optimized. We need inexpensive utilities, low taxes, low hurdles to startup, and a business-friendly government. This will allow small companies to startup and grow here and be successful.

Our governor spends huge dollars flying around the world trying to get big companies to build big factories in our state and it has largely been unsuccessful. There are plenty of great inventors and innovators right here that can come up with a few jobs here, a few jobs there, and maybe grow into something big down the road.
 
#15 ·
This is done by creating an environment of LOW taxes and minimal regulation.
Very true. Too bad our wonderful governor has already said that she will veto any budget that cuts services and will only sign one that "comes up with more funding"(Read as: raises taxes.) Thanks alot Mrs. Granholm for not doing anything about that $300M deficit until the House and Senate were basically in agreement on a budget and then coming out and shooting it down! I for one will sure be sad to see you go...
 
#16 ·
Well I live in northern Mi and as for the street plow situatuion, I have a buddy who works for the city of Cadillac. According to him all main roads will be plowed/salted/sanded. Secondary roads will only be plowed in the event of a heavy snowfall. On the news today I heard the state house passed a 3% tax on physcians. Now it has to go to the senate. So be prepared for your Dr. bills to go up! A manufacturer in Grand Traverese Co. is shutting down. Approx 130 jobs lost. I agree with Kingfish if your gonna live here, your gonna HAVE to learn to be more self reliant and find "other" income sources.
 
#18 ·
i too im a michigander but to relocate to arizona due to jobs. my wife has a college ed and was scrubing toilets because there was nothing else. my father was forced to retire from fords when he was 51(30 something years in).
 
#19 ·
If your under the age of 38 you can always join the military. They're always hiring and if your not the fighting type you can always join the navy. I think anyone that chooses not to take this route and still bitches about being unemployed deserves what they get.
 
#22 ·
I dont believe in Cloning :eek::eek: Im not special at all. I had a talk with client today. Good Christian man from Wisconsin who spent over a 1,000.00 in my shop this year. He told me that he was buying cheap plastic chinese copies of quality lures for the last three years and reached the conclusion that he spent more in throw away junk then he spent with us. The task is simple, find something you can build with your hands and a few tools and build it. Then make it the best quality you can and sell it. I know a guy who building hand made furniture and he cant keep up with the orders. Hes trying to work in retail sales and run his business and is finding he cant do both. This country was built by small business men and women who were not afraid to try. I quit a 12.00 an hour job which was going no where to start my own business. It was hard to throw off that security blanket. When I told my boss what I was doing he laughed at me and called me a fool. That day was the day I made myself a promise. I would prove this man wrong. I did just that. I make more now then I ever made working for him and have a business and client base worth over 100 grand. I export lures all over the world to european Pike fishermen and Musky fishermen from all over the United States and Canada.

Where we went wrong ( as a nation)was removing the import tarrifs on goods produced in countries where there was a currency difference of value. By destroying this balance we created a race to the bottom where the norm has become who can do it faster and cheaper. This has led to mountains of garbage in our landfills and skyrocketing fuel costs as global markets eat up huge amounts of energy shipping products all over the world. The biggest waste has been that most of the products can be built and sold in each country without shipping anything but things that you cant get in your country. For example trade used to be based on what we produced was traded on the global market for what someone else produced. We had balance then. Now by removing those tarrifs we allow greed to step in and it did. It was planned but that is another story. Clintons and both of the Bushes will burn for thier lies and coruption.

We used to trade things like wheat for sugar. Textiles for oil, etc. Now instead of selling the things we make here people ship the raw materials to another country where they build it for pennies on the dollar and ship it back to us for almost the same price it would have sold for here. Where that plan fails is loss of jobs and huge amounts of oil used to transport these goods. Its a lose lose situation. The more oil used in Global shipping the more you and I pay at the pump. We saw it hear in Natural gas prices when our local power plant switched over to cleaner burning Natural gas from Coal. They started using huge amounts of gas and guess what? you guessed it gas prices have doubled.

I can as a business man go on and tell you all about Nafta and G.A.T.T. (World Trade org) but I have talked till I am blue in tha face and no one listens. I deal with Nafta and the G.A.T.T. Agreements every time I ship out of the country. N.A.F.T.A. is a one way street. We lowered our tarrifs and they did not (unless you sell to registered Canadian business) Meaning I can not sell over 60.00 in products (retail) to Canadian consumers. If I do the consumer is socked with duty(tarrif) and the fine is huge. Meanwhile Canadian Lure builder can sell all day at retail into the United States this allows them to lower thier retail prices and beat us here on our own soil. The only thing keeping me at the top is Quality and innovation. The Chinese could copy my lures right now and there would nothing I could do about it. Thanks to Bill Clinton who allowed our patent rights to be controlled by the World Trade org. Now to fight global patent infringements one must go to Switzerland hire a swiss lawyer and sue a company in another country. No problem right? Globalism is the Evil that has consumed most of the world. To make it die we must not feed it. Dont feed the Beast. Kingfish
 
#23 ·
I'm staying put also. But i'm really concerned about the direction mi is headed. A friend of mine invented a saw blade organizer,mort. his house had it made in mi and can't get anyone to put it on the shelves,he sells it on line and people love it but wont put it in the stores. Sometimes i just don't understand this place.
 
#24 ·
Your friend needs to stay the course. His product works, sells and he can produce it here in Michigan. Now he needs to learn how to market it. So far he is doing the right thing. Selling it online. Have him contact a company named (Granger). They sell industrial and home tools and stuff. They are a great store for those hard to find items like your buddies product. Kf
 
#27 ·
It's been a couple of years since I was up Michigan way. I always liked Michigan,beautiful state,some of the nicest people you could hope to meet.I'm really sad Michigan is hurting like it is,too bad.The good news is ,we have a lot of people from Michigan moving to Texas! TP