oh yeah..holy cow. when I was a kid, every school year measels went around. red and german. it was never a big deal except once in a blue moon you'd hear some kid had complications.
and kids had mumps and chicken pox too. and it's kinda strange that in the 50's and 60's, nobody ever hardly heard of polio until they started vaccinating everybody.
I bet I went to school with over 100 kids who had polio.
my grandparents, born in the 1800's, said they never knew or saw but a couple people who had polio until they started the vacines.

 

The thing is the disease was thought to be irradiated with the vaccine and the booster. I know all diseases evolve. Forwarned is prepping I think in this case.

 

I had the measles as a child.....Im still here.....couple days out of school...good as new

Amazing how one person can be diagnosed w/ a probable case of measles and folks start to get all nutty.......odds folks odds.. think about it


wonder how many died from hepatitis today....cancer......heart dx.....etc etc??

How many got struck by lightning in the last couple days?

 

Measles is less significant than a bad cold. What a hoopla about nothing. And a waste of taxpayer money. I'm so glad I had all the childhood diseases in childhood. Those vaccinations are killing people. They've already started the cheerleading about this fall's flu vaccine. Which probably won't work, like last year's.

 

Not a big deal...

 

What bothers me isn't the diseases-- they used to be widespread; the vast majority survived-- but the fact that we seem to have lost the knowledge of how to treat them.

Now, I'm all in favor of vaccines. Between potential ASD and the whooping cough, I'll risk the ASD. I've seen both (at least at a mild level). A touch of autism has some redeeming qualities; the whooping cough has none. It's temporarily disabling, sometimes permanently scarring, and could be deadly if an individual had preexisting asthma or other lung issues. The less of that stuff there is going around, the better-- with one HUGE caveat:

IF the modern medical machine fell apart-- or if the viruses in question managed to mutate around the vaccines-- the knowledge to cope with it wouldn't be there. We would be, in effect, back to Victorian (or Dark Ages) medicine.

When DH caught whooping cough back in 2008, it took six weeks, eight doctor visits, and several completely useless courses of azithromycin, doxycycline, and Augmentin to arrive-- by process of elimination-- at the conclusion that that was what it was.

Following that, and a revolving script for heavily narcotic cough syrup, we were on our own to figure out what to do.

If I had been raised to be completely dependent on a doctor's advice, instead of growing up around my aunt who was a hardcore believer in avoiding sick visits whenever possible, he very well might have hacked himself to death before anyone thought of mentholatum, infusion of peppermint (also known as a nice hot cup of strong mint tea, preferably with a generous dollop of honey in it), and hot steams.

I couldn't cure it (and was rather upset by that fact, having to that point never encountered something I couldn't beat in seven days or less) but I could at least enable him to maintain some level of functionality during about 80 of the 100 days we spent waiting for time to do its thing.

If one of my kids showed up with measles (or chicken pox, for that matter) tomorrow, the only thing our friendly pediatrician would know to do is scold me for not immunizing them and then put in a call to CYS to report my negligence. Fortunately, I'd know what to do for uncomplicated chicken pox. Lots of liquids, rest, and plenty of calamine. Unless I take pains to teach them (or make sure to hand down those outdated parenting books I picked up at Goodwill), though, my kids (assuming they get the chance to be parents) won't have a clue what to do for their offspring if necessary.

 

I had measles,German measles mumps,and chicken pox as a child. My heighbor is the poster boy for shingles.,I got the shingles anti virus vacination last year.
I get a flu shot every year. My tetanus is up to date. I got a pneumonia shot last year. I plan on getting a Hepatitua A this year with my flu shot.
I have no kown allergies. I think being immunized is form of survival.

 

This and a lot more.

 

My mother had polio in 1947. She survived and has had a pretty normal life. Some of her school pals did not survive, and one little boy was sent to a hospital in D.C. and lived in an iron lung for several years until he died of some sort of complication from the iron lung. Polio was a scourge long before vaccines, and as it is re-emerging on the African continent and into Israel and the mid-east due to campaigns of hate and ignorance started by a muslim dictator which has rapidly spread. Israel is currently undertaking a massive polio vaccination drive, and has had some success convincing muslims that the vaccinations are not designed to sterilize their children or give them HIV or some other disease. I hope they continue their success before the middle east slides back into the glorious dark ages when mohammed was still alive..

I had mumps, chicken pox and scarlatina as a child. Have had shingles twice due to illness. I've wondered if the shingles vaccine would be worth having. The second case I had, I had them basically from the waist up, all the way up onto the left side of my face and almost to my left eye. The pain was extremely difficult to endure, particularly because it lasted so many weeks.

 

My mother had polio in 1947. She survived and has had a pretty normal life. Some of her school pals did not survive, and one little boy was sent to a hospital in D.C. and lived in an iron lung for several years until he died of some sort of complication from the iron lung. Polio was a scourge long before vaccines, and as it is re-emerging on the African continent and into Israel and the mid-east due to campaigns of hate and ignorance started by a muslim dictator which has rapidly spread. Israel is currently undertaking a massive polio vaccination drive, and has had some success convincing muslims that the vaccinations are not designed to sterilize their children or give them HIV or some other disease. I hope they continue their success before the middle east slides back into the glorious dark ages when mohammed was still alive..

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http://www.vaccines.me/print.cfm?gozal


1991: Sutter R W; Patriarca P A; Brogan S; Malankar P G; Pallansch M A; Kew O M; Bass A G; Cochi S L; Alexander J P; Hall D B. Outbreak of paralytic poliomyelitis in Oman: evidence for widespread transmission among fully vaccinated children. Lancet 1991;338(8769):715-20.



From January, 1988, to March, 1989, a widespread outbreak (118 cases) of poliomyelitis type 1 occurred in Oman. Incidence of paralytic disease was highest in children younger than 2 years (87/100,000) despite an immunisation programme that recently had raised coverage with 3 doses of oral poliovirus vaccine (OPV) among 12-month-old children from 67% to 87%. We did a case-control study (70 case-patients, 692 age-matched controls) to estimate the clinical efficacy of OPV, assessed the immunogenicity of OPV and extent of poliovirus spread by serology, retrospectively evaluated the cold chain and vaccine potency, and sought the origin of the outbreak strain by genomic sequencing. 3 doses of OPV reduced the risk of paralysis by 91%; vaccine failures could not be explained by failures in the cold chain nor on suboptimum vaccine potency. Cases and controls had virtually identical type 1 neutralising antibody profiles, suggesting that poliovirus type 1 circulation was widespread. Genomic sequencing indicated that the outbreak strain had been recently imported from South Asia and was distinguishable from isolates indigenous to the Middle East. Accumulation of enough children to sustain the outbreak seems to have been due to previous success of the immunisation programme in reducing spread of endemic strains, suboptimum efficacy of OPV, and delay in completing the primary immunisation series until 7 months of age. Additionally, the estimated attack rate of infection among children aged 9-23 months exceeded 25% in some regions, suggesting that a substantial proportion of fully vaccinated children had been involved in the chain of transmission.

 

"suboptimum efficacy of OPV, and delay in completing the primary immunisation series until 7 months of age."

I used to do this sort of thing for a living back in the day. IMO from reading the article, suboptimum efficacy would be the most significant factor.