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I have been watching Doomsday preppers and most of them all have different reasons for why for what they call the world is coming to an end. Is there some things that may be more prominent that would cause a SHTF scenario? I seen one guy saying that a super volcano would cause a SHTF scenario for the US and others saying economic collapse. From your opinions which event would be most prominent to cause a SHTF event for the US?
 

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could be economic... could be a natural disaster such as the yosemite , I think, blowing up...

theres also a volcano , I believe, that may errupt and landslide into the ocean creating a disasterous sunamie (spelling? lol sorry) that will affect the east coast..

then theres the danger of solar flares or earth magnetic flip as said by the myan stuff... theres a lot of info here and internet to study....

one link:

http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/

another about nwo:

http://diaconspiracyfiles.com/
 

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think the biggest most likely worldwide threat is the Economic Collapse ... if the Dollar and Euro go then the world will plummit into Economic Darkness ... people wont be able to work or get food

Think prepping for one type of disaster is a little narrow minded ... would hate to have prepped for a Super Volcano Disaster or an earthquake and find myself with either too much supplies to Bug Out with and have to leave stuff behind ...

i reckon the movement of the poles would be the scariest shtf moment ... earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunamis alteration in climates, food shortages, seizing of resources ... its scary
 

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If Yellowstone blows it will definitely change the North American landscape, it would also have severe global consequences (according to experts :thumb:).

A direct hit from a massive solar flare (or a nuke in the upper atmosphere) would for sure send us into the dark ages.

Earthquakes are mostly localized or would affect coastal cities in case of a tsunami, not a global SHTF in my opinion.

I'm not sure that an economic collapse would cause a SHTF situation.
 

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Oh great. Here's our usual "let's all predict the end" thread. Has it been 2 weeks already?

There has been a nonstop flood of end of the world predictions for decades now and not one of them got it right. Who are we to think we will?

All the predictions do is make us look like a bunch of loons, to people who may have listened and prepared if we had established ourselves as better sources of information. I mean who hasn't gotten the "yeah, and you nutbats thought X was going to be the end of the world too" reply when talking to someone about preparedness?

We're still recovering from the collective black eye that Y2K gave use. Just in time for the "Doomsday Preppers" to do even more damage to our credibility.

Given our track record of inaccurate predictions, the people preparing for their personal "pet scenario" are far more likely to be blindsided by things they don't expect. This is why it's wiser to prepare for "whatever might happen" than to be a "scenario prepper".

So in the end, the predictions are of no benefit to us whatsoever. They only cause damage. Yet that doesn't stop the flood of them that spew forth from our midst constantly.
 

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Its not a predicting the end of world scenario it was more watching the Doomsday preppers and seeing which would be more likely bc a super volcano isn't very likely. Its coming off having people think we are loons. It was just a general assessment
 

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IMHO, EMP from a Solor flare seems the most likely natural event.

Economical colapse due to the end of fossil fuels seems the most likely man made.

I watched the Pilot of DoomsDay Preppers, it seemed a better show as a pilot then their new take on it. They tore into the prepper on every aspect of the plan failing, not just succeding. Their "experts" say at the end of those preppers that prepar for hyper inflation and economic colapse that the likely hood that it will happen in the US is slim on its own, but infact in a SHTF situation, thats what is mostly likely going to be the killer, because alot of natural and made made desaters will have economic colapse and hyper infaltion as their side-effects.
 

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I'm prepping for an extended interruption of our infrastructure on a regional basis. Like a large windstorm or ice storm or tornadoes that knock out power and critical services for many weeks. In my work, I respond to severe outages where NOTHING works. I've seen entire areas (many counties) without power for weeks and weeks. The critical responders are overwhelmed and folks are pretty much on their own for some period of time. Then, eventually power and services are restored. That seems like the most probable event I'll face.
 

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IMHO, EMP from a Solor flare seems the most likely natural event.

Economical colapse and hyper infaltion as their side-effects.
I think many people don't realize how fragile their living conditions are.
They just refuse to accept it.

A person would have to be brain dead to ignore the warnings from
Government agency after agency that we are going to have a Major
disruption in life as we know it.

Welcome to 90% of americans idioligy.

The huge number of people being displaced by their loss of jobs
can only grow to a point and then it becomes a powder keg.

Brazen crime is increacing daily. The threat is real and that is why
we prep.
 

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All of the "Movie-Scenarios" have been played out, plagarized and been beaten to death...ad nauseaum. However...

...are you prepared during this "Final Countdown" of the "PROGRESSIVE/SOCIALIST" destruction of this country...their continued restrictions and abrogations of the inherent rights of man...and freedom...or are you gonna just sit around bemoaning the end of FEETSBAWL or some stupid team-loss...pop-culture...

...or a fantasy approach of going out in a blaze of glory...armed resistance...etc., are you willing AND ABLE to tell the IRS to go pound sand and you're no longer to feed them any more money to waste on Social Pogroms...or simply shrug your shoulders.

...do you fear that these Great Minds of Social-Engineering may reveal another, up-to-now, unknown skill they have in the BLACK ARTS, whereby they may conjure up and raise from the dead the great bloated and ossified carcass of Ted Kennedy, empowered with all the dark forces of the universe, and because of that action cause all of us to acknowledge their powers over heaven and earth and cause submission?

Whilst Nature is unpredictable, conversly, THIS scenario seems more likely, daily. Are you prepared to let your country die?
 

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What I want to know is why aren't the so called experts calling these people on the fact that they sit behind shelf after shelf of glass jars talking about how they expect a huge continent changing event to bring about the beginning of the end. I guess not a one of them have been in a real earthquake. The first few I saw would have to swim out of their house in a sea of broken glass, pickle juice, and canned berries.

I also questioned the ones that fear the magnetic poles reversing causing continental drift. Their quote was that "Texas would end up somewhere around Canada." So one morning I wake up and it's really cold with the smell of moose farts in the air? How do they think this will just happen. I plan on mounting a few chairs out in the yard with a five point harness and enjoying the ride. Don't forget to reset Home on your GPS..
 

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I think many people don't realize how fragile their living conditions are.
They just refuse to accept it.

A person would have to be brain dead to ignore the warnings from
Government agency after agency that we are going to have a Major
disruption in life as we know it.

Welcome to 90% of americans idioligy.

The huge number of people being displaced by their loss of jobs
can only grow to a point and then it becomes a powder keg.

Brazen crime is increacing daily. The threat is real and that is why
we prep.
And thats so true. Its easy to sell crazy as a prepper, I will usually start toying with people about the Z-Day, and go into tangents about how those unprepared will be eaten. Then, I pull a 180 and get serious (tell them I'm joking about the zombies), and then go into detail that if some of those that died after Katrina struck had my BOBs, they would most likely have survived. That usually gets them thinking, and even preping for just a localized disaster.

It happens in our own back yard, and people blindly say, it won't happen to them. And when it does, they think that the Goverment will be there to save them. In a localized disaster, the Gov will come, but you still need to survive till then, and thats what most people don't understand. Our Gov doesn't have teleporters that will bring them instantly to ground zero of the disaster, every person should be prepped to survive at the bare min 72 hours (according to fema) or one week or better IMO.
 

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I don't pay much attention to any specific threats. For instance I believe that economic collapse might occur under several scenarios.. making economic collapse a result of just about any long ranging SHTF..

I base my preps on very basic ideas.. food, shelter, security and avoid preparing for specific threats.. IE: an assortment of hand-powered tools, an assortment of basic materials, instead of this saw that drill or this specific thickness or type of plastic..

My point is I try to do things that are benefit in any general circumstance, not something specific I "skert 'uv" on a given day.

when we get specific actionable warning of EMP I'll dig into my supplies and build Faraday cages like a mo'fo.. food shortage: I'll use that aluminum foil for food stuffs etc..

..make sense?
 

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Nat Geo experts seem to think that a pandemic will be most likely. Personally, I think that the economic collapse is more realistic and right around the corner.

The dominoes have already started to fall in Europe and we are right down the line. The federal reserve printing banking bailout wallstreet corruption derivative ponzi scheming are the most elaborate crime concoctions in history and it has raped this country in the pitch black of night. All that has to be done now is for the lights to be turned on and BOOM!

The other scenarios are definitely possible, but no one can say that they are as certain to happen in the near future like economic doom; however, if gas doubles this summer, we could see it start to unfold.
 

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when we get specific actionable warning of EMP I'll dig into my supplies and build Faraday cages like a mo'fo.. food shortage: I'll use that aluminum foil for food stuffs etc..

..make sense?
Well, I don't consider myself "scared" of an EMP, but you'll not get any warning if it comes from the sun. A solar Flare EMP would be devistating, alot bigger then a nuke (It can effect an entire 1/2 of the globe, and still mess up the rest), it will electricly charge metals, start fires, destory powergrids, and you won't know it hit till its too late. Best bet, keep a large steel tool box/ steel or conductive 50 gallon drum with lid around, and keep any electronics that you have to have in it, and keep it grounded, because you won't get a warning till its too late.

Worst part about it, it HAS happened before, and WILL happen again.
http://modernsurvivalblog.com/solar-cycle/solar-superstorm-1859-it-can-happen-again/
We survived it because it happened in 1859, the only electronics where telegraphs.
 

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I have been watching Doomsday preppers and most of them all have different reasons for why for what they call the world is coming to an end. Is there some things that may be more prominent that would cause a SHTF scenario? I seen one guy saying that a super volcano would cause a SHTF scenario for the US and others saying economic collapse. From your opinions which event would be most prominent to cause a SHTF event for the US?
The slow decline will continue...JMO
 

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Once people research history and figure out that our collapse into world gov't is calculated and certain, they can see the writing on the wall and realize that we don't have far to go now. How far of a fall and how big a cushion we will have, no one knows..
 

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All crime, including violent crime is at a 40 year low right now. Crime isn't increasing, it's actually decreasing, and has been for a few years now. There may be specific locations where that isn't true, but it is decreasing all across the US. But, those facts may get in the way of some people's paranoia.
 
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