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Hi, I am looking for a new large pack for extended trips. My problem is most packs that are larger have no pockets are the exterior that can actually hold anything. Maybe they make them like this because they work and I’d like your opinion on the subject if you've used these types of packs. Do you put your smaller items in stuff sacks within the pack to be organized? For example I hear a lot about the Denali pro and osprey argon, both of these falls into small pockets if any on the outside category. I seem to like packs that would be called military style like the large Alice ruck sack or MAD rucksack. These are smaller than the previous mentioned two but have pockets for an organized pack. Which do you prefer? , can you keep an organized pack with the argon type pack? , or any other comment you have, please I’d like to get more opinions, thanks.

http://www.uscav.com/productinfo.aspx?productid=5984&tabid=548&catid=1723

http://soldiersystems.net/2009/06/04/mad-rucksack-from-rfi-gear/

http://www.backcountry.com/osprey-p...-8E50-E011-9324-0019B9C043EB&mr:referralID=NA

http://www.backcountry.com/gregory-...-F061-DF11-9DA0-002219319097&mr:referralID=NA
 

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I like the gregory pack. I do sort my stuff out into stuff sacks and dry sacks, they are different colors and make it alot easier to keep stuff organized.
 

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Forgot to mention that a 6,000 cu in or more would be great? Thanks
Looks to me you are willing to shell out some cash for a quality made pack that will perform. Consider Mystery Ranch packs. They are not that much more than the models you are looking at above but built twice as well. Not made for the light-weight crowd but heavier and much more durable.

The great thing about Mystery Ranch packs is that they are designed to carry load easily. Without exaggerating, a 50lb pack feels like 30lb. Many elk and sheep hunters use MR packs. I am not affiliated with them, but I am a loyal customer that is blown away by the way they build/design packs and their amazing customer service. After trying and buying many other packs out there (including Osprey and Gregory) I settled on this company. Also made completely in the USA.


Take a look at the Mystery Ranch Grizzly. 6000 cubic inches. This is a hunter's model but there is also the military model (down below). Two HUGE pockets on the sides and two on the lid.


http://www.mysteryranch.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4071/.f?sc=8&category=1971

If you want more and smaller storage, additional small pouches can be ordered and added on to the MOLLE webbing like this Tactiplane (the pouches on the side are "add ons that you purchase separately"):


http://www.mysteryranch.com/s.nl/it.A/id.13768/.f?sc=7&category=46

They even have 7500 Cubic inch packs. Think about this company before your purchase. The price is high, but the quality and performance reflects it. They make military, hunting, backpacking, and firemen packs.


Mystery Ranch Website if you want to look at the other models:
http://www.mysteryranch.com/site/index.html
 

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Like yourself I am also looking for a new pack for week long excursions. I have been doing research for about 4 years now on the best pack for me. I looked at Gregory, REI, Osprey, Mountainsmith, Badlands, a few others that I forget at present time, Mystery Ranch and Kifaru. After heming and hawing at the outdoor stores, REI and EMS, being fitted, trying them on and walking abit, I narrowed it down to 2 of the packs mentioned. Mystery Ranch and Kifaru. Both are made here on US soil and employ skilled American labor. And both are about $100 to $200 more expensive than the REI and EMS stuff. I finally narrowed it to Kifaru and an MMR from their tactical line, because I can add to the pack in various ways. I should be expecting my new pack around July 11 or so according to Kevin at Kifaru who also said he would probably be the guy actually making the pack. I went back and forth with him about the right pack for me a couple of times until I narrowed it down to the MMR (Multi Mission Ruck). I can't wait! Hope this helps. -chinagreen
 

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Those packs seem ok, but i'm looking for a pack with at least 3500 main cu in and 2500 cu in worth of pockets and not just 2 larger ones. Yeah, the one can have added pockets but the price is high without pockets plus pockers, out of my budget.
I know it seems picky but if anyone ahs seen a pack made with a trusted material, has many pockets, and a sleeping bag compartment please let me know.
 

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A lot of mountaineering packs tend to have fewer external pockets. This cuts down on weight and keeps a slim and tight profile. I have a Kifaru as well. With all the available options you can put all the pockets you want on the outside. I do wonder what effect packing so much weight into external pockets will have. 2500 cubic inches is a lot of space, and packing so much gear in external pockets might make the pack unbalanced and move the weight away from a desirable center of gravity. Not really sure about that, just a thought.
 

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Ok, I see what your saying there about weight disturbution. For people who have used expedition packs then what do you put in thouse large pockets? Seems two small ones in place of them would fair better? I can see how i might be getting anoying now, but i just want to get the right pack, and really do appreciate your insight. Does anyone know of a website that has an example of packing one of these packs? Thanks
 

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Ok, I see what your saying there about weight disturbution. For people who have used expedition packs then what do you put in thouse large pockets? Seems two small ones in place of them would fair better? I can see how i might be getting anoying now, but i just want to get the right pack, and really do appreciate your insight. Does anyone know of a website that has an example of packing one of these packs? Thanks
I have a pack similar to the Grizzly model up above. For me I put tent poles, canister fuel, water filter, rain gear and outer layers mostly. The tent poles are just long. It is really the rain gear or outer layers that is more important to get access to quickly. Can't really fit those in small pockets. Some trips I carry a hatchet, shooting sticks, trekking poles, binos or even a small stool in there.

But again, really you want your protective layers in those spots so you can access them quick if the weather changes.
 
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