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Sorry folks, I was in a hurry to get dinner on the table before and couldn't figure out how to post a new thread. Thought it would be easier to find if it had a thread of it's own.

UPDATE -- ROUND ONE TO THE PEOPLE -- 9/29/2008
The following members of the House of Representatives voted FOR the Bail-Out and can be held accountable by voting AGAINST them in the November election:

Ackerman
Allen
Andrews
Arcuri
Bachus
Baird
Baldwin
Bean
Berman
Berry
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blunt
Boehner
Bonner
Bono Mack
Boozman
Boren
Boswell
Boucher
Boyd (FL)
Brady (PA)
Brady (TX)
Brown (SC)
Brown, Corrine
Calvert
Camp (MI)
Campbell (CA)
Cannon
Cantor
Capps
Capuano
Cardoza
Carnahan
Castle
Clarke
Clyburn
Cohen
Cole (OK)
Cooper
Costa
Cramer
Crenshaw
Crowley
Cubin
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
Davis, Tom
DeGette
DeLauro
Dicks
Dingell
Donnelly
Doyle
Dreier
Edwards (TX)
Ehlers
Ellison
Ellsworth
Emanuel
Emerson
Engel
Eshoo
Etheridge
Everett
Farr
Fattah
Ferguson Fossella
Foster
Frank (MA)
Gilchrest
Gonzalez
Gordon
Granger
Gutierrez
Hall (NY)
Hare
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Herger
Higgins
Hinojosa
Hobson
Holt
Honda
Hooley
Hoyer
Inglis (SC)
Israel
Johnson, E. B.

Kanjorski
Kennedy
Kildee
Kind
King (NY)
Kirk
Klein (FL)
Kline (MN)
LaHood
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Levin
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Loebsack
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Lungren, Daniel E.

Mahoney (FL)
Maloney (NY)
Markey
Marshall
Matsui
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum (MN)
McCrery
McDermott
McGovern
McHugh
McKeon
McNerney
McNulty
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Melancon
Miller (NC)
Miller, Gary
Miller, George
Mollohan
Moore (KS)
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Murphy (CT)
Murphy, Patrick
Murtha Nadler
Neal (MA)
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Pallone
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peterson (PA)
Pickering
Pomeroy
Porter
Price (NC)
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Radanovich
Rahall
Rangel
Regula
Reyes
Reynolds
Richardson
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Ross
Ruppersberger
Ryan (OH)
Ryan (WI)
Sarbanes
Saxton
Schakowsky
Schwartz
Sessions
Sestak
Shays
Simpson
Sires
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (TX)
Smith (WA)
Snyder
Souder
Space
Speier
Spratt
Tancredo
Tanner
Tauscher
Towns
Tsongas
Upton
Van Hollen
Velázquez
Walden (OR)
Walsh (NY)
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Weldon (FL)
Weller (Did Not Vote)
Wexler
Wilson (NM)
Wilson (OH)
Wilson (SC)
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Sorry folks, I was in a hurry to get dinner on the table before and couldn't figure out how to post a new thread. Thought it would be easier to find if it had a thread of it's own.

UPDATE -- ROUND ONE TO THE PEOPLE -- 9/29/2008
The following members of the House of Representatives voted FOR the Bail-Out and can be held accountable by voting AGAINST them in the November election:
... Or by voting FOR them... Depending on how one views the necessity of the package... (I'm still not sure what I think about it- I'm waiting to see what happens next before I make up my mind on whether it's a good thing or not. Much as I abhor the idea of tax dollars going to it- I also abhor the idea of another Great Depression.... So... I'm just stayin out of it till the dust clears. :xeye:
 

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... Or by voting FOR them... Depending on how one views the necessity of the package... (I'm still not sure what I think about it- I'm waiting to see what happens next before I make up my mind on whether it's a good thing or not. Much as I abhor the idea of tax dollars going to it- I also abhor the idea of another Great Depression.... So... I'm just stayin out of it till the dust clears. :xeye:
Mama Bear....This Congresswoman is ON TARGET.

Congresswoman: Criminal Insiders Behind Bailout Bill

Monday, September 29, 2008

Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur boldly slammed the bailout bill this past weekend as the work of criminal insiders who have shut down the normal legislative process to commit “high financial crimes” and defraud the American people, while Rep. Michael Burgess warns that “martial law” has been declared.

The two Congress members are part of a growing minority of representatives sounding the alarm about the dictatorial nature of the bailout bill, which is expected to be up for a vote in the House today, with most in Congress having not had the opportunity to even read the legislation.

The bill is expected to reach the Senate on Wednesday as a raft of outraged politicians cry foul about being strong-armed and accused of being unpatriotic for opposing the carte-blanche passage of a piece of legislation that fundamentally centralizes control of the financial infrastructure of the country into the hands of the government and the Federal Reserve.


“We are Constitutionally sworn to protect and defend this Republic against all enemies foreign and domestic. And my friends there are enemies,” Kaptur told the House floor.

“The people pushing this deal are the very ones who are responsible for the implosion on Wall Street. They were fraudulent then and they are fraudulent now.”

“My message to the American people don’t let Congress seal this deal. High financial crimes have been committed,” added the Democrat from Ohio.

“The normal legislative process has been shelved. Only a few insiders are doing the dealing, sounds like insider trading to me. These criminals have so much political power than can shut down the normal legislative process of the highest law making body of this land,” Kaptur concluded.

Elsewhere, Rep. Michael Burgess (R-TX) said that the only information he had received about the bailout was what talking points to use on the American people and that he had been thrown out of meetings for not blindly supporting the bill.

Ominously, Burgess also comments, “Mr. Speaker I understand we are under Martial Law as declared by the speaker last night.”

Absent any proper hearings concerning the legislation, Burgess called for the legislation to at least be posted on the Internet for 24 hours so that the American people could “see what we have done in the dark of night.”
We are being LOOTED, plain and simple.
 

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Mama Bear....This Congresswoman is ON TARGET.



We are being LOOTED, plain and simple.
I hear it both ways and both ways make sense. So again- I'm waiting till the dust clears before saying who has the right of it. Far smarter economic heads than mine all have ideas and none can agree- so I figure- who am I to say what's best and what isn't? The way I see it- if we dodge the 700 billion dollar bill, but end up with the equivalent of that OR MORE in economic collapse rivalling or surpassing the Great Depression coming out of our pockets- did we really do any good? I don't think so. So- we'll see what happens. Hopefully they come up with alternatives that fix the problem and don't rely on our dime... But... Given how much bull**** they went through to deal with THIS option.... I'm not optimistic. They sure as hell aren't going to put anything together overnight the way things are going and given the DOW's activity today- I'm wagering tomorrow may be a wild ride. I'm not confident in our government, nor am I confident in Big Banking or Big Business- and much as I don't want my taxes tapped- I ALSO don't want an economic landslide that ends up costing me even more than those taxes. So.... *settles in with some popcorn to wait and see who DOES have it right. Only time will tell IMO.*
 

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TSHTF - The "I want it now generation" will finally find out what it means to go without and have to work hard just to survive. This bail out would not have changed anything, it was just a last chance for the politicians who are responsible for this mess to take a little more while there was something left to take. Times are about to get hard and people will have to get hard as well or they won't make it. Look for things to get progressively worse over the next 4 to 5 years regardless of who wins the election.
 
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