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Life Care Center of Kirkland breaks silence at Saturday press conference

Note: That today is Monday, three days later.


Resident status

Killian shared how numbers and figures have changed since Feb. 19 — the first date that a Life Care patient was transferred to a local hospital and then subsequently tested positive for a coronavirus infection.

As of the Feb. 19, Killian said, there were 120 residents at Life Care Kirkland. Of those 120 residents, 54 have since been transferred to various nearby hospitals.
The deaths associated with the facility... 26 between Feb. 19 and March 7. That includes 15 patients who have died in local hospitals.
This suggests that 11 deaths were inside the facility.

Of those 15, 13 have positively tested for coronavirus.
This suggests that 2 of the hospital deaths may have been may not have been COVID related. The unanswered question is, "Were these 2 cases tested for COVID prior to hospital admittance?"

Currently, there are 63 patients at Life Care Kirkland. Of those, six are showing symptoms.
63 (in Life Care) + 54 (went to hospital) + 11 (deaths at Life Care) = 128 residents?:confused: Why this discrepancy; 120 stated vs 128 calculated?:mad:

On Feb. 19, there were 180 employees associated with Life Care Kirkland. Killian said that of that initial 180, 70 are now showing coronavirus symptoms.
I doubt this number is accurate; I have 2 reasons. One reason is below:

Another link:
Seattle-area nursing home unable to test 65 workers with COVID-19 symptoms
Article Dated 10Mar20; GMT.
...no kits to test 65 employees showing symptoms...
Now, about 48 hours later, there are 5 fewer workers showing symptoms?:confused::mad:

Of the 53 residents still in the facility, results for 31 out of 35 have so far come back positive for the coronavirus.
Notice there is no mention of this number of patients having been tested positive during the press conference mentioned in the first link?

Full Disclosure:
From the first link:
...the center typically sees three to seven deaths monthly, and that there have not yet been any reports post-mortem whether those in-facility patients tested positive for coronavirus.
However, the first question remains, ""Were these 2 cases tested for COVID prior to hospital admittance?":confused:

This is the most accurate information I could find, and it is flawed.:mad:
 

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Minor Update

To provide the prior post, I had to sift through many different web pages and eventually found the two pages I wished to share. This created a lot of confusion to me because the numbers never seemed to add up; and they should.

Simply due to miss-information overload, and order of information intake, I overlooked the following 2 quotes:

From the first link:
Since Feb. 19, Killian noted that 11 patients have died within the facility on top of the 15 at hospitals. He clarified that the center typically sees three to seven deaths monthly, and that there have not yet been any reports post-mortem whether those in-facility patients tested positive for coronavirus.
From the second link:
Twenty-six of 120 patients who were residing at the nursing home as of Feb. 19 have since died, with 13 of 15 autopsies carried conducted to date confirming coronavirus was the cause, Life Care officials said on Monday.
The reasoning behind the autopsies is not stated. And, since the individuals at the local hospitals were at more than one different hospital, could/did the 2 non-confirming autopsies come from the same hospital?
 

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Deaths Increase By Four - Official Tally Reduced by Seven

Coronavirus death toll rises to 23 in Washington state

Date of Article:
Monday, March 9th 2020
Another three deaths were reported by King County health officials Monday afternoon while a fourth person was reported to have died at Overlake Medical Center later in the day. The three deaths bring the official state death count to 22 but the death at Overlake has not yet been recorded in the state's official tally.
Above, in the OP there were already 26 deaths associated with COVID-19:
Saturday, March 7th 2020
Killian noted that 11 patients have died within the facility on top of the 15 at hospitals.
This makes the math:
26 + 4 = 30
But now there are only 23.:confused:

Added this quote for record keeping:
King County Health officials say there are 33 confirmed additional cases in the county Monday bringing just the county case count to 116.
 

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Minor Update - Asymptomatic Numbers

The Asymptomatic Numbers came from a KIRO video; for which there is no official transcript:
Monday, Mar 9, 2020
https://www.kiro7.com/video/?id=4855117


35 Tested
31 Positive
1 Negative
3 Inconslusive
7 Have symptoms
 

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Minor Update - New Updated Numbers

Tuesday, March 10th 2020

Inslee: Up to 64,000 coronavirus cases in Wash. by May 'if we don't take action'

Washington state has experienced the worst outbreak of COVID-19 in the nation, with at least 23 deaths. Nineteen of those deaths are linked to the Life Care Center, a nursing home in Kirkland.
Note: It is expected that 2 to 4 cases could have been from normal age related complications. To have 11 case deaths reversed from the official COVID-19 tally does not seem realistic. Conveniently, if they never test, by autopsy, the deaths in the facility, the state gets ~ 1/3 drop in COVID-19 fatalities.
 

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The number seem to be changing from what I remember them.

Life Care Center of Kirkland breaks silence at Saturday press conference

The Life Care Center of Kirkland, which has been linked to the majority of COVID-19 (coronavirus) cases in the United States, gave a press briefing regarding the virus for the first time on Saturday, March 7, in front of the facility.

According to Tim Killian, a public liaison for the center, this will be the first of several daily media briefings.

“It’s been a very trying time for everyone,” Killian said.

Resident status

Killian shared how numbers and figures have changed since Feb. 19 — the first date that a Life Care patient was transferred to a local hospital and then subsequently tested positive for a coronavirus infection.

As of the Feb. 19, Killian said, there were 120 residents at Life Care Kirkland. Of those 120 residents, 54 have since been transferred to various nearby hospitals.

The deaths associated with the facility, according to Killian, amount to 26 between Feb. 19 and March 7. That includes 15 patients who have died in local hospitals.

Of those 15, 13 have positively tested for coronavirus.

Since Feb. 19, Killian noted that 11 patients have died within the facility on top of the 15 at hospitals. He clarified that the center typically sees three to seven deaths monthly, and that there have not yet been any reports post-mortem whether those in-facility patients tested positive for coronavirus.

Currently, there are 63 patients at Life Care Kirkland. Of those, six are showing symptoms.

Killian said that all residents are being confined to their rooms. Once a patient appears to have acute symptoms — which Killian said would be specified in the future — is when Life Care decides to transfer a resident to a hospital.

On March 5, Life Care Kirkland received a load of 45 coronavirus testing kits. Before that, Killian said, the facility had no kits with which to test residents.

He said that the number of test kits is still insufficient, but could not specify as of March 7 who Life Care has reached out to to receive more.

Employee update

On Feb. 19, there were 180 employees associated with Life Care Kirkland. Killian said that of that initial 180, 70 are now showing coronavirus symptoms.

He said that any employees who are symptomatic are asked to stay home. Killian could not confirm as of March 7 whether staff in self-quarantine are being paid.

Killian addressed other concerns during the conference. He said that, currently, only “essential” employees are able to go inside the facility. Visitors are turned away.

He said, to his knowledge no employees of the facility have been hospitalized.

“Our experience with this so far has shown that the virus is volatile and unpredictable,” Killian said. “We’ve had patients who, within an hour’s time, show no symptoms to going to acute symptoms and being transferred to the hospital. And we’ve had patients die relatively quickly under those circumstances…We know very little about how fast this may act.”

Employees, Killian said, are trained for “best practices” to abide by during a quarantine situation — as in “suiting up,” wearing face masks and gloves and following facility guidelines.

“They truly are heroes,” he said of those who are continuing to work.

Killian noted that today (March 7) the facility is receiving additional help from nurses, nurse practitioners and at least one supplemental doctor. He could not specify which outside agencies each was affiliated with as of the conference.

He said that outside help from the CDC has been rotating in and out of the center rather than coming all at one time.

When asked what assurance he could give to family members who are concerned about their loved ones, Killian was not able to give any definitive statements.

“I can say that staff is caring for them to the best ability that they can,” Killian said. “We cannot make any promises that further exposure within the facility is not happening.”
 

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Note: It appears as if this article has been updated, and not specifically listed as updated in the header. I neglected to include the time the first time, but 02:20 GMT Tuesday would have been 19:20 Pacific Monday.

by Reuters
Tuesday, 10 March 2020 02:20 GMT
Seattle-area nursing home unable to test 65 workers with COVID-19 symptoms

Adds latest cases, deaths reported in Washington state)

By Andrew Hay and Deborah Bloom

SEATTLE, March 9 (Reuters) - The Seattle-area nursing home at the epicenter of one of the biggest coronavirus outbreaks in the United States said on Monday it had no kits to test 65 employees showing symptoms of the respiratory illness that has killed at least 13 patients at the long-term care center.

The staff in question, representing more than a third of the Life Care Center's 180 employees, are out sick with symptoms consistent with coronavirus, and a federal strike team of nurses and doctors is helping to care for 53 patients remaining in the center.

With the facility in the Seattle suburb of Kirkland accounting for more than half of the known U.S. coronavirus deaths, and all its patients tested, it was unclear why Life Care lacked diagnostic kits for staff, even as the University of Washington offered to process test samples for them.

"We would like more kits to test employees," Life Care Center spokesman Tim Killian told reporters, adding he did not know why they had not been forthcoming.

"We've been asking the various government agencies that have been supplying us with test kits."

Twenty-six of 120 patients who were residing at the nursing home as of Feb. 19 have since died, with 13 of 15 autopsies carried conducted to date confirming coronavirus was the cause, Life Care officials said on Monday. Among 53 residents still in the facility as of Monday, results for 31 out of 35 tested have so far come back positive for the coronavirus, they said.

The Seattle-King County Public Health agency on Monday reported three more Life Care residents had died from coronavirus infections at local hospitals in recent days, raising the statewide total to 22. But it was not immediately clear whether those fatalities were already included in Life Care's own latest figures.

Washington as a whole has documented 162 confirmed cases, one of the largest tally of any single U.S. state. The nationwide number has surpassed 600.

The outbreak has shown how quickly coronavirus can spread through elderly residents with weak immune systems and underlying health conditions living in close quarters.

"We've had patients who, within an hour's time, show no symptoms to going to acute symptoms and being transferred to the hospital," Killian told a news conference on Sunday. "And we've had patients die relatively quickly under those circumstances."

Two other nursing homes in the greater Seattle area have reported that at least two residents and one staff member have the virus.

Killian said he was not sure whether nurses who worked at Life Care Center Kirkland also worked shifts at other nursing homes in the Seattle area before the outbreak came to light over a week ago.

The University of Washington School of Medicine said on Monday it could test all Life Care staff. The lab's current testing is running at about 500 specimens a day, but it has capacity for over 1,000 tests a day.

"We're happy to perform testing if they can get samples and send them through the University of Washington Department of Laboratory Medicine," said Alex Greninger, assistant director of UW Medicine Clinical Virology Laboratories.

He did not know why Life Care had not received kits, but said a general reason why testing was not higher was a shortage of people to pick up specimens and bring them to his university lab.
 

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Update!!! Federal Medical Strike Team in Washington

Note: It appears as if this article has been updated, and not specifically listed as updated in the header.
The staff in question, representing more than a third of the Life Care Center's 180 employees, are out sick with symptoms consistent with coronavirus, and a federal strike team of nurses and doctors is helping to care for 53 patients remaining in the center.
I'm confident that this text has been altered from original.
 

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None of it's really a big deal. They're all getting infected, they're all dying. This virus can wipe a nursing home clean in a month or less. Generally people get the idea. The exact numbers don't really mean much.
 
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