Bull....all you're doing is taking a cheap shot, smearing with the broad brush and trolling for attention. As a liberal, I hunt, own guns, own two homes paid in full, have little debt, and no doubt more self sufficient than you are as I prefer to live below my means.
As retired military, unlike vets who served only a few years, I'm still bound by an oath to support and defend the Constitution.
However, I will speak out against cock fighting, bull baiting, fox penning, dog fighting, running deer to ground with dogs, gunning wolves from aircrafts, and sloppy hunters regardless of political leanings who can't make one shot kills, leaving wounded animals in the field being too lazy to track to finish the job....

 

Wow, if you werent a liberal I could agree with you on nearly all counts.:

 

I've always viewed liberalism as one seeking to improve things to a sort of utopian level. I see conservatives as wanting to retain the values that made things as good as they are (or were, at some point).

Which one am I? It depends on the topic, but derogatory labeling is unnecessary, either way.

 

You totally get it. Liberalism is saying human beings are all uber, and conservative is like saying human beings are good as they get.

 

We are all liberal when it come's to what we as an individual wants.

 

LEEEEEE-BRUUUUUUULLLLZZZZ! Whatcha gonna do when they come for you....

 

I think their both Morons.

 

I think their both Morons. But Im a Independent.

Just know that there are Independent Conservatives, as well as Independent Liberals. We know that Democrats aren't Liberals, and Republicans aren't Conservatives....

 

Have you ever watched "meet your meat"?

 

To liberals humans are just animals with opposed thumb and slightly above average intelligence. They figured that out by looking at themselves in the mirror.

 

Do you have any idea how many people would be vegetarians if they had to kill their own meat?

 

I think some people are confusing liberals with animal rights activists or extremists. The two are not one in the same. I know of alot of liberal minded people who eat meat as well and hunt and fish.

Just because someone is liberal does not automatically mean they are an animal rights proponent.
Most animal rights people though, are in fact liberal in their political views.

Not trying to stir anything up. Just trying to clarify.

Tex

 

I'm no liberal, but I'll tell you this. I'd save my dog from harm before I'd save some random person. She's family and family comes first.

Besides that, I do tend to feel more sorry for animals that are abused than people. I guess to me it's a matter of innocence. Animals are innocent and don't understand. People are just different in my eyes.

 

Agreed, very much so.

 

I am what many here would call a liberal, yet I think that the US gun laws are too strict and I believe that if we weren't meant to eat animals, they wouldn't be made out of meat. :thumb:

 

I have heard anecdotaly that you get in more trouble for punching a police dog than punching a cop.

RSPCA are pretty bloddy effective here though.

 

No, No, I just mean the people going around saying
"you a liberal, you a conservative?" , them. but I agree about the dog part.

 

Try not to wake the Dog.

 

Haha, no worries there. She's conked out down by my feet.

 

No, I dont feel liberals in general like animals more than people, just the eco-nazis. But I do believe that liberals are less concerned about individual freedoms, rather they have a more socialist viewpoint about sharing the wealth, and manufactured equality!

 

Well, I care more about animals than I do MOST humans. Does that count?

Just for the record, caring about and respecting animals does not necessarily mean that you don't eat them. I have a great deal of respect for the animals we raise for food.

Oh, and do we need to drop the "nazi" reference for everything we don't agree with? Unless someone is actually bent on genocide and conquering the world, then calling someone a nazi is just silly. The label has been a bit overused don't you think?

 

By the logic here, conservatives should never own pets in the first place. After all, pets think they are ENTITLED to that bowl a chow you drop in the floor once a day, they have no jobs, and no health care.

 

My dog has healthcare insurance, and a job.
Her job is being cute and lifting my spirits.

 

I disagree. I don't think it's a liberal thing at all. I know a lot of conservative women who are rabid pet rescue advocates.

 

I think in this instance Liberals is being used instead of people I dont like.

Liberals also mow lawns at 6 in the morning.

 

Some pretty dark personalities are seeing the light of day in this thread.

 

If my dog and a liberal were both facing a life-threatening situation and I had the ability to save only one, I am going to save the one who ****es me of the least. Sorry, liberals.

As was stated earlier, my dog is part of the family. Also, being working and hunting dogs, they help put food on the table and help us get our work done. Taking this into consideration, they contribute more to our family than a random stranger.

Tex

 

I see no issues with respecting my animal brothers and sisters. What is the big deal ?

 

Meh. We all came far away from the idea once live animals are now meat. If you take away hunters and farmers and similar, I doubt it matters what political leaning and most people don't want to know their meat comes from animals. They don't want to know how bad those animals were treated in production. They could never kill an animal and butcher it because it is scary and icky.

That is what modern life does to people, not anything on the left to right spectrum.

I'm very left leaning and I think cats are superior to us. Eating meat is an option, and if you opt out I have no issue with that. If you opt in however, I do ask you to be able to kill for meat, or you should stay away. I'm not saying you have to kill all your meat yourself, but I want you to have proven killing is not a problem. Because if it is, you're a hypocrite.

Then there is another problem with mass production of meat and eggs. I think animals actually have the right to be treated quite well if they are supposed to be eaten. If that is bleeding heart liberal, so be it.

To put animals before human lives? That is quite a tricky one. I would be weird if I cared more about a stranger than my feline masters because they are my family and a stranger... well.. like it or not but humans usually care very little about people they don't come in contact with. If that makes me a bad person, fine.

 

I think that makes you honest.

Tex

 

Double post

Tex

 

Oops. Sorry.

 

People have are changed for their entire lives if they accidentally kill another human. I can't imagine the guilt of killing another person in a car wreck.
I think you are delusional if you think you can save your kitty and puppy instead of another human if the situation ever arose.

 

I think you're underestimating people's love of their pets.