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Those of you who feel the LHC meant certain doom just gained some more time.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7626944.stm

The Large Hadron Collider near Geneva will be out of action for at least two months, the European Organization for Nuclear Research (Cern) says.
Part of the giant physics experiment was turned off for the weekend while engineers probed a magnet failure.
But a Cern spokesman said damage to the £3.6bn ($6.6bn) particle accelerator was worse than anticipated.
The LHC is built to smash protons together at huge speeds, recreating conditions moments after the Big Bang.
Scientists hope it will shed light on fundamental questions in physics.
Section damaged
On Friday, a failure, known as a quench, caused around 100 of the LHC's super-cooled magnets to heat up by as much as 100C.
The fire brigade were called out after a tonne of liquid helium leaked into the tunnel at Cern, near Geneva.

Cern spokesman James Gillies said on Saturday that the sector that was damaged would have to be warmed up well above absolute zero so that repairs could be made.
While he said there was never any danger to the public, Mr Gillies admitted that the breakdown would be costly.
He said: "A full investigation is still under way but the most likely cause seems to be a faulty electrical connection between two of the magnets which probably melted, leading to a mechanical failure.
"We're investigating and we can't really say more than that now.
"But we do know that we will have to warm the machine up, make the repair, cool it down, and that's what brings you to two months of downtime for the LHC."
Setback
The first beams were fired successfully around the accelerator's 27km (16.7 miles) underground ring over a week ago.
The crucial next step is to collide those beams head on. However, the fault appears to have ruled out any chance of these experiments taking place for the next two months at least.
The quench occurred during final testing of the last of the LHC's electrical circuits to be commissioned.

At 1127 (0927 GMT) on Friday, the LHC's online logbook recorded a quench in sector 3-4 of the accelerator, which lies between the Alice and CMS detectors.
The entry stated that helium had been lost to the tunnel and that vacuum conditions had also been lost.
The superconducting magnets in the LHC must be supercooled to 1.9 kelvin above absolute zero, to allow them to steer particle beams around the circuit.
As a result of the quench, the temperature of about 100 of the magnets in the machine's final sector rose by around 100C.
The setback came just a day after the LHC's beam was restored after engineers replaced a faulty transformer that had hindered progress for much of the past week.
 

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Not really the type of publicity they would be looking for I guess. I wonder who here thinks they have built a doomsday device?? Personally I don't but.....who knows?
 

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who in the hell was crazy enough to fund a project like that anyway?
 

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who in the hell was crazy enough to fund a project like that anyway?
The Europeans aren't killing each other every 10-20 years like they used too.They got to spend the peoples income on something
 

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who in the hell was crazy enough to fund a project like that anyway?
Um, the U.S. taxpayers funded a large chunk of the project so we could have scientists work there.

That's after we funded an even larger project on U.S. soil that got mothballed before it was completed.

Perhaps Taxpayers for Common Sense has data on how much the two projects combined have cost U.S. citizens. It's definitely in the Billion$
 

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yeah, all that cheap clean electricity.....there should be a law!
the stuff is a double edge sword for sure. got the war in japan ended and now its turned around that we were the genocidal monsters. kept the peace, more or less among the great powers with MAD, now maybe a little one will knock us off with a EMP and a cheap missile launched from a rusty freighter.


as fot the LHC ending the world... wouldnt it be funny if we could run time backwards and find that our universe started in a particle collider at the end of the last universe?


fbut then I've heard so dang many scares about something that was gonna end the world i kinda half way dont listen anymore.
 

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yeah, all that cheap clean electricity.....there should be a law!
And the issues with North Korea, Iran? all the people that died in Japan, and the fallout from Chernobyl, etc... I am not a fan of nuclear power or of nuclear weapons. Too powerful of weapons and no safe way to dispose of waste as of yet.

as fot the LHC ending the world... wouldnt it be funny if we could run time backwards and find that our universe started in a particle collider at the end of the last universe?
hahaha :/
 

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And the issues with North Korea, Iran? all the people that died in Japan, and the fallout from Chernobyl, etc... I am not a fan of nuclear power or of nuclear weapons. Too powerful of weapons and no safe way to dispose of waste as of yet.



hahaha :/

Then we better just all go hide and never try and learn anything or further scientific achievement at all anymore.
Ohhh well....I kinda liked being able to turn on lights any time I wanted and live past 35.
 

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There are other sources of clean power that don't involve radioactive waste that we don't have a good disposal method for, or if a problem occurs don't involve a nuclear meltdown sending fallout half way around the world.
 
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