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Kimbo Slice just got knocked out in 14 seconds by some guy I've never even heard of. The punch didn't even look that bad, at least nowhere near as bad as some of the other punches I've seen Kimbo absorb. But apparently it was enough. After it was over I heard Kimbo asking the ref, "Did I get hit?"

I was bummed when I found out Ken Shamrock couldn't fight Kimbo. They find this other guy to replace Shamrock at the last minute, and he pulls off perhaps the biggest upset in MMA history.
 

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Yes indeed what a shocker. It took all of about 14 seconds before the Ref called the bout. That had to be one of the quickest bouts on record. I had some serious doubts about this guys ability to take Kimbo, thinking he was going to have to pack a lunch for a win against this guy. I too am glad it wasnt pay for veiw although as increadible as it was I would have felt cheated!
 

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Its kinda hard to get in the right mind set to be training for one person then the last minute there throw a new guy at ya. It can be hard to adjust for a new fighter in the sport like Kimbo.

The guy that beat him had a real good fight with UFC Fighter Matt Hamial the Def Fighter. He lost but he had some good skills in the fight.

And anyone in this sport can get caught at anytime and it happend here. This prob isnt the greatest thing for there company that there big paid superstar lost to a undercard guy.
 

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I think this loss took a big blow to Kimbo Slices career. He prob shouldnt of took the fight. But he was prob presured by the org and told hey you can take this chump from the undercard no problem. Went in droped his guard and got took out. I dont think its as big of a upset as some might think. I mean James Thompson I think beat him his last fight but got screwd. And in an mma fight Eric Butterbean Esch beat Thompson knocked him clean out so that dont say much for Kimbo. I like Butterbean but hes not a very hardcore MMA guy. He reminds me of Bob Sapp.
 

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The marketing legend known as Kimbo was exposed by a light heavyweight. Seth is a journeyman at best, not a world beater. On top of that, he's a weight class below Kimbo.

There were some other fights on the card that were great. Radach vs Rua was entertaining and Gina Carano was looking fine.
 

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I'm an MMA fan for a few years now. I can tell you people who no the sport well have said as soon as Kimbo fought someone who wasn't a tomato can he would more than likely be dismantled.

Another good example of this was when Frank Mir submitted Lesnar via heel hook.

I enjoyed the other fights as well, man, Rua can take a punch. Is it me or does Gina Carano fight down to her opponent?
 

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I'm an MMA fan for a few years now. I can tell you people who no the sport well have said as soon as Kimbo fought someone who wasn't a tomato can he would more than likely be dismantled.

Another good example of this was when Frank Mir submitted Lesnar via heel hook.

I enjoyed the other fights as well, man, Rua can take a punch. Is it me or does Gina Carano fight down to her opponent?
OMG are you kidding me ok your right about KIMBO but Brock Lesnar is the Next UFC Heavy Weight Champion. He was destroying Frank Mirr befor he got caught in that foot lock. Frank Mirr right after the fight said he was scared and even said he thought he lost the fight and even said he got lucky to get that heal hook on him. I guss you didnt see Franks face after that fight. And maybe you didnt catch the way he destored Heath Herring. And he will crush Randy Couture.

Brock Lesnar is the real deal!
 

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You know what? I'm not going to judge Kimbo based on one bad fight. I've seen every legend of MMA get his ass kicked at one time or another.

Tito Ortiz owned Ken Shamrock.
Chuck Liddell owned Tito Ortiz.
Rampage Jackson owned Chuck Liddell.
Matt Hughes owned Royce Gracie.

The list goes on...

They're all great fighters, but they're not always great.
 

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It's a crying shame that the UFC bought out Pride.

The Japanese had a great tournament, its competitors and champions were seriously world class, now thanks to UFC it's gone.

Regarding that video, showing your back like that for that length of time would invite a choke. I'm suprised he didn't try it. That to me, shows a supreme level of naivety (he does look like a steroid freak ground and pound though).
 

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It's a crying shame that the UFC bought out Pride.
I never liked Pride for one simple reason:

Because they were trying to do MMA inside a boxing ring. Ropes? WTF? They had to constantly interupt the action to move back to the center of the ring. Put em inside a cage and then you don't have to worry about any damn ropes.
 

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I never liked Pride for one simple reason:

Because they were trying to do MMA inside a boxing ring. Ropes? WTF? They had to constantly interupt the action to move back to the center of the ring. Put em inside a cage and then you don't have to worry about any damn ropes.
Then if that's your beef with Pride, why put people in a cage? Why not give them a huge arena to fight in?

Pride brought in the champions from across the world.

UFC has predominantly been American.
 

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Then if that's your beef with Pride, why put people in a cage? Why not give them a huge arena to fight in?
There has to be some kind of boundary. It's show business, after all. People pay for a seat, and they want a good view.

I think a cage is perfect. The fighters don't get tangled up in it, so they don't have to break up the action. And it keeps them in a centralized location where everyone who paid to see the fight can see it all.
 

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And in Pride they would stand them up if they weren't being busy enough.

The striking rules were also different, I watched several matches where UFC fighters complained about "illegal" hits.

It's a shame that the Russian, Ukranian, Brazilian and Dutch fighters haven't hit your championships en mass.

But that might break the "USA NO.1!" myth,
 

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UFC has been to the UK three times to my knowledge and i went to the first one at the Royal Albert Hall were the English guy Ian freeman won the heavy weight tital and we also got the fastest knock out against eugen jackson.
 

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And in Pride they would stand them up if they weren't being busy enough.

The striking rules were also different, I watched several matches where UFC fighters complained about "illegal" hits.

It's a shame that the Russian, Ukranian, Brazilian and Dutch fighters haven't hit your championships en mass.

But that might break the "USA NO.1!" myth,
Brazilians have fought in the UFC,the Gracies,who also took the Japanese apart at Vale tudo,also Babaloo is Brazilian.

I cannot remember the Dutch though but im sure if they had fought we would have heard:thumb:
 

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Then if that's your beef with Pride, why put people in a cage? Why not give them a huge arena to fight in?

Pride brought in the champions from across the world.

UFC has predominantly been American.
Agreed, they did bring in the talent from everywhere...too bad that didn't include judges.
Their judges were so corrupt it was ridiculous.
I'm not just talking about what happened with Mark Kerr either. It was constant and frequently in his favor especially in light of his drug use that was ignored by Pride.
 
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