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Waylander...got any links to good articles on it? Do the people vote for this or just your government? There was a short blurb on the radio this morning with Cameron saying it would be bad for the UK to leave the EU.
 

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In 1975 the people of the UK were given a vote, asking if we wanted to join the COMMON MARKET.

This was sold to the people of the UK as a trade alliance, a way to facilitate easier trade with europe.

We voted to join this Common (Trade) Market, NOT a political union.

We have never been given a vote on joining a german led european state, that in effect is the 4th Reich.

A dictatorship led by the Hun.

A non elected political pig trough that is so corrupt, even its own auditors have repeatedly refused to sign off its accounts. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...more-than-100billion-of-its-own-spending.html

A whole continent is being butt ****** by a socialist political elite, led by an east german socialist.

You could not make it up.

Waylander:mad:
 

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Too bad you don't have guns.

See how that worked?


It was all part of their plan.

Now what can you do about it?

Serfdom awaits Europe.
I do have guns:confused:

I have loads of guns :confused:

Over the years I've owned thousands, having spend several years as a dealer :confused:

Do you guys think guns is the answer to everything:confused:

How come you have so many illegals, with you all having guns :rolleyes:

Waylander:rolleyes:
 

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I do have guns:confused:

I have loads of guns :confused:

Over the years I've owned thousands, having spend several years as a dealer :confused:

Do you guys think guns is the answer to everything:confused:

How come you have so many illegals, with you all having guns :rolleyes:

Waylander:rolleyes:
Our illegals generally come here to work. Yours come to shoot up the cities, and take over your countries turning the whole of Europe into the Middle East part Deaux.
It would take a **** storm of epic proportions to break up the EU at this point. I don't think OPTING OUT is in the cards.
By the way I love the way you guys just throw the words like twat around.
Last to go before PC correctness overwhelms the entire western societies?

Hope you can evacuate before it is to late.
 

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I do have guns:confused:

I have loads of guns :confused:

Over the years I've owned thousands, having spend several years as a dealer :confused:

Do you guys think guns is the answer to everything:confused:

How come you have so many illegals, with you all having guns :rolleyes:

Waylander:rolleyes:
You may have guns.
You may have loads of guns.
You may have spent several years as a gun dealer and during that time owned thousands of guns.

The questions are: is that normal in your area? Does the average citizen(serf ) have loads of guns? Does the average citizen(serf) have access to train with those guns?

On my block alone I know of 8 people who have guns. I'm not very social so I'm sure there are many more.

Guns, or specifically their availability and the threat of their possible employment against the government is probably not even on the radar of your politicians, leaving them free to trample your rights unfettered.

Oh, and at least we have guns to protect ourselves from those illegals.

Even though guns are not always the answer, at least here they can be part of the question and an available option.
And why are you even surprised politicians would lie to you?

You don't need to answer those questions above by the way.
 

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The questions are: is that normal in your area? Does the average citizen(serf ) have loads of guns? Does the average citizen(serf) have access to train with those guns?
Perfectly normal (and legal) where I live.:)

Yes, we have access, we keep them at home & yes we use and train with them, at a multitude of gun ranges and clubs.

Waylander:cool:
 

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Guns, or specifically their availability and the threat of their possible employment against the government is probably not even on the radar of your politicians, leaving them free to trample your rights unfettered.
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Yes you're correct.

No one trampled on anyone's rights at Waco and when New Orleans flooded no one had their right trampled on (or legally held guns confiscated) and no one was trampled at Ruby Ridge.

Waylander :)
 

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Perfectly normal (and legal) where I live.:)

Yes, we have access, we keep them at home & yes we use and train with them, at a multitude of gun ranges and clubs.

Waylander:cool:
Who is this we you speak of?

The rate of gun ownership in the UK is close to 6-10% of that of the US. Surely no large concentration that would be enough to pose a threat to any governmental entity.

I'm not doubting your proficiency with what you have. My point was there are not enough to make a difference.

And with those examples you gave, you miss the point again.
Sure, in some of those instances you noted, rights were trampled, how ever it was not, and could not be done so on a grand or national scale. Or, at least I hope that, we the people, would not let it happen.

I'm just saying that if the government takes that step across the line, I'd rather have thousands 9f people loading magazines than thousands swinging baseball bats.
That image alone could deter a few overzealous politics from taking that step.
 

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I can't wait. When they insisted we change from Ibs and Ounces did me, and putting everything into mm, cm and metres. Grrrrrrrrrrr! I wonder if they will change it back.

Then there is the total lack of compassion for a small country forcing us to take in yet more immigrants, and that's without the French farmers getting literally everything they wanted compared to virtually zilch over here.

After that we have to think of Cornish cream, Worchester sauce, Cheddar Cheese etc and the regulations to do with that. What's next the ruddy Yorkshire Cricket team!
 

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Which none of your illegals do ?

Pot / kettle :rolleyes:

Waylander:cool:
You keep seeing things on a micro scale when it should be viewed in the macro.
Rape is committed by citizens and non citizens. The difference is the average Joe and Jane can carry most places in the US. I doubt that's an option anywhere in Europe. That is the big difference. Your government has taken away your right to defend yourselves from the rapist and the politician.

Actually, to me, there is not much difference between the rapist and politician.
 

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You keep seeing things on a micro scale when it should be viewed in the macro.
Rape is committed by citizens and non citizens. The difference is the average Joe and Jane can carry most places in the US. I doubt that's an option anywhere in Europe. That is the big difference. Your government has taken away your right to defend yourselves from the rapist and the politician.

Actually, to me, there is not much difference between the rapist and politician.
Please go an troll a Donald Weetbix trump thread, you may be on a subject you know about.

British politics and way of life you know F/A about :thumb:

Waylander:)
 

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Count me as an American who is pulling for the UK to pull out of the EU. There are lots of reasons why I think this is good for the UK and the US. The UK is a better friend than the toothless EU, it reduces the influence the socialist EU has on the US, etc.

Good luck.
 
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