How much are the dues???

 

I think it's gonna be extremely difficult to fight organized and highly financed tyranny all alone.

Just my opinion.

 

While I'm somewhat of a militia sympathiser and may involve myself with them after the fact, I can't see painting a bullseye on my chest just yet.

 

+1. I have enough little flags on my name. I don't need a big one.

 

I think that the OP should at least familiarize himself with some of the anti-militia propaganda been put out by several prominent liberal organizations that have not only helped to shape public perceptions of such groups, but more importantly have shaped the training provided to law enforcement about right wing extremism and domestic terrorism threats, which treats involvement with a militia as a huge red flag. Otherwise, he might quickly discover that he's subjecting himself to subtle and not so subtle discrimination due to his involvement or at least greatly increased government surveillance of his activities.

The main culprits are the Southern Poverty Law Center with its over $200 million war chest and to a lesser extent the Anti-Defamation League. Freedom of Information Act requests about the sources used in controversial government documents have confirmed the extent of their influence, and a few reputable authors have pieced together their manipulation of public opinion and law enforcement agencies.

On another level, the OP hasn't indicated whether or not he's had any military or paramilitary training himself. While I suppose that there's some low key groups of people with decent military training who might be engaging in interesting activities, at least a very noticeable proportion of militia groups can be rather amateurish in their training and overall presentation of themselves. Such groups are not likely to be very effective in any crisis and often provide a good punching bag for those who want to portray their opponents on the right as dangerous extremists. Unless the OP has had military training or know some close friends who did that have and can vouch for the quality of a group, he might find him or herself playing soldier with a bunch of self appointed Majors and Colonels who'll provide little more than can be achieved through camping and shooting with friends (and that without getting flagged as a threat to national security).

Personally, I think it would be a better use of one's time to develop their personal resilience (through acquiring skills and some gear/supplies so long as one learns how to use them) while cultivating networks with likeminded people through different means than joining a militia (i.e. Church groups, amateur radio clubs, hunting and shooting clubs, Search and Rescue groups, the Red Cross, veterans and veterans groups, plus various survivalist and homesteaders groups, conventions, etc.). If push came to shove, those networks of people would probably carry a great deal of capabilities and influence without being the first targets of any government clampdown. And even if the government were to become truly tyrannical, it might be far more effective for people to organize their opposition along the lines of the Solidarity movement in Poland than the high-flung scenarios of civil war involving armed civilians so freely thrown about.

I won't tell anyone here what to do, but highly counsel researching this matter very thoroughly (and cautiously) before getting deeply involved.

 

I seriously think anyone who's going to be a "militiaman" needs to have
real military experience, and I don't have any, so I've never joined one even
though I've been asked. All the militia people I know (and don't get me
wrong, I love the guys) are generally too old and fat to pose much of
a threat to anything other than a sixpack of beer, if you ask me.

 

I would tend to believe any militia group is fully stocked with one paid informant for each of the 16 super secret USA spy agencies.

 

You don't know just how right you are.

A while back, I got acquainted with two alphabet agencies against my will.

They asked me to do unmentionable things under the guise of being a " watchful eye ".

I told them to sniff my area where the sun don't shine.

 

Careful who you hang with, Google "Randy Weaver".

 

And frankly, didn't see any issues with the ones I perused.

Keep in mind, Feds can write very enticing descriptions.

 

That's funny. I was just thinking that I'd never read a self-description of a militia group that would make me want to get close enough to take a real look. Its all been too religion or too conspiracy theory oriented.

Of course I can't say I've made a thorough study of it. That's just my very limited experience.

I thought about joining the National Guard when I was much, much younger but couldn't convince myself it was a good idea. Still not sure if not staying out of it was a good or bad idea.

 

I have thought about creating/joining a paintball/airsoft, so that we can compete in competitions. :

It can cover the same things as a 'militia'; outdoor survival (we're camping), military tactics (paintball/airsoft use similar tactics), though I can't think of a good excuse for stockpiling supplies yet, except maybe that we're trying to get good group discount rates . . .

 

militia will be the first ones into the FEMA camps. I guess at least you can pick out a good spot.

 

As a member of a Militia I think people should most definitely join a group if they are considering it.

The important thing is to be sure they are not a bunch of radicals. The team I was with trained with the goal of being an asset to the local Sheriff in times of dire emergency.

Example: A neighborhood is devastated by a tornado. The Militia can be tapped so that rather than having two Deputies working a location they can have one Deputy and a Militiaman so the legal authority assets can be spread out and utilized in more locations.

A real life example happened when an elderly lady walked out of a nursing home and was lost in the local woods. The Militia team got together, contacted the Sheriff, and also helped search for the lady. The Sheriff later commented that he appreciated the fact that they volunteered, were able to care for themselves, and adding more people to effectively search an area.

Make sure to check the group out very well. Do not tolerate, ever, any discussions of illegal activities or anti-government discussions. Those are the groups to stay away from or you'll find yourself serving your country alright - as a convict behind bars.

If people say "You'll be on a list", etc. then guess what? You are then living under a Tyranny and that is even more reason to join the Militia.

The right group will have an official FTX each month and will teach you a lot: first-aid, CPR, rappelling, SAR, RON with bare essentials under varying weather in all seasons, communications, etc. and, of course, marksmanship as well as team operations during both the day and night (huge difference)

These are basic skills that all Americans should possess so are better able to fulfill their oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America".

 

I think the majority of pre-SHTF militias will be gone within the first few weeks of the events, and real ones will develop after the fact. I would just go lone-wolf until then.

 

No idea officer.

 

nope, wouldnt join one. "guilt by association." Local boys here in the mid 90's had a militia and were investigated. Two or three of the guys (including a higher level officer who owned an Army Surplus shop) were arrested, tried and convicted of owning explosive devices.

I'm sure all the rest were on a government "@#$%" list.

If I want to be in a group, it will be the friends and family that I know.

 

Self appointed majors and colonels...HAHAHAHA....

Just like these guys:

http://youtu.be/7mIz4Nr5p6E

 

Those guys are indeed clowns. Tampons? Really? Actual medial guaze is cheaper and not full of chemicals.

Anyway, some militia's, like the Washington State Militia, composed mostly of former army or army reserves and NG, and some parts of the Texas Militia and a few others are ok. Most are not. Many are wanna be's who see tacticool gear, multi-cam everything and made up ranks as a way to make up for real training, PT etc are fools.

If the so called leaders can't figure out how to work a treadmill how can they expect people to trust them with their lives when things go sideways.

My personal feeling is that in a long term SHTF warlords will appear. They will have militia's working for them that will emerge out of the 4% of the nation with a military or LEO background which will utterly wreck groups like the 'Watchmen'.

I think its best to look to your friends and family. Talk with them about what you can do if things get a bit sketchy. If things go on long enough, having 5-15 men who know each other, are loyal to each other, and can work together will be a strong place from which to make alliances with.

Some militia's are a good idea. They have good leaders, a screening process and rules. Most, the vast majority, are clowns and crazy.

These guys will be ok: http://www.txsg.state.tx.us/

This guys are probably going to be less ok: http://www.watchmenofamerica.com/

 

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militia? nahhh ill just stock up on supplies and find a hole in the ground and hide...pop out when its safe like a damn groundhog.
that's the mentality of most ...sad.... collectively we could be a force to be reconed with..
seems only thing that concerns most ..is themselves...takes brave men to step up when its unpopular and scarey to do so..im afraid were in short supply of heros.....

 

I'm of the opinion that joining a militia is an excellent method of getting to meet a variety of govt agents.

 

Join a militia today and 4 of the 5 guys you are joining up with will be feds. The mid 90's scared the heck out of the .gov (and I'm not talking about OK city.) It was a full blown movement nationwide.


You would be asking for a setup in the name of the war on terror and spend the next 20 getting sand pounded up your rear in a Fed pen. Not worth it. Nice idea, spirit of our Constitution, lawful... but given the criminality of our alphabet agencys, not worth it.

Now, I'd say cozy up in a small town, get to know your neighbors.

There are other ways. Civilian first responders depending on where you are, I know MO. has some in the southern part, led by the sheriff. Getting involved with your small town, in regards to disaster management and first response is another way. (we have that by me, it's simple stuff, couple days of food water, meeting places, people the town can count on ect ect.) I think it's alot better way to deal with potential disasters than a "militia". Whatever happens we have framework in place to at least build around, without being wacky.

I wouldn't touch a militia with a 20' pole being held by someone else.
Just my .02

 

Join a militia today and 4 of the 5 guys you are joining up with will be feds. The mid 90's scared the heck out of the .gov (and I'm not talking about OK city.) It was a full blown movement nationwide.


You would be asking for a setup in the name of the war on terror Nice idea, spirit of our Constitution, lawful... but given the criminality of our alphabet agencys, not worth it.

Now, I'd say cozy up in a small town, get to know your neighbors.

There are other ways. Civilian first responders depending on where you are, I know MO. has some in the southern part, led by the sheriff. Getting involved with your small town, in regards to disaster management and first response is another way. (we have that by me, it's simple stuff, couple days of food water, meeting places, people the town can count on ect ect.) I think it's alot better way to deal with potential disasters than a "militia". Whatever happens we have framework in place to at least build around, without being wacky.

I wouldn't touch a militia with a 20' pole being held by someone else.
Just my .02

"and spend the next 20 getting sand pounded up your rear in a Fed pen. Not worth it".

Sounds like a liberal democrats dream...... lol

 

Join one that is legit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_defense_force

 

There are much better ways to become involved in the community than joining a militia. Why be viewed with suspicion when you can be viewed with respect?

Canadian Prepster

Personally, I think it would be a better use of one's time to develop their personal resilience (through acquiring skills and some gear/supplies so long as one learns how to use them) while cultivating networks with likeminded people through different means than joining a militia (i.e. Church groups, amateur radio clubs, hunting and shooting clubs, Search and Rescue groups, the Red Cross, veterans and veterans groups, plus various survivalist and homesteaders groups, conventions, etc.).

Sharkeater

There are other ways. Civilian first responders depending on where you are, I know MO. has some in the southern part, led by the sheriff. Getting involved with your small town, in regards to disaster management and first response is another way. (we have that by me, it's simple stuff, couple days of food water, meeting places, people the town can count on ect ect.) I think it's alot better way to deal with potential disasters than a "militia". Whatever happens we have framework in place to at least build around, without being wacky.

 

The term militia means a group of armed citizens . The way I see a war with the government happening is that they are going to go for the bigger more established groups first through informants , intimidation and just straight up bribery . A group is only as strong as its weakest link. The more people involved the more likely there is going to be somebody taking notice . Like any organization things need to be compartmentalized with a decentralized leadership to protect the group from massive infiltration . Be like the Hydra you cut off one head 2 sprout out in its place . Groups of 10 or more are going to have targets on their backs so by minimizing your imprint and moving cautiously you can avoid detection . Ultimately know that your capture is going to mean torture and death. If one looks at Al Qaeda , the KKK and other fringe groups this is how they are allowed to continue to be active and avoid incarceration is thru splinter groups, loose affiliations and decentralized leadership . The break up of the KKK thru suing the central organization led to the decentralization of the organization as a whole. While this led to the decline of the over all organization it allowed splinter groups to pop up creating guerrilla groups all over the area that is going to have to be taken over to go to the next one . There is no longer a head to kill off but they have to go after the body . I am not saying do not join a Militia group but be smart about it . Keep it small and loosely link up with like minded groups to train with .

 

Forget militias, stick with like-minded friends and neighbors.