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JOE LEGAL vs. JOSE ILLEGAL

You have two families: "Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal".
Both families have two parents, two children, and live in California .


Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes
$25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.


Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number,
and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".


Ready? Now pay attention...


Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00
per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has
$31,231.00.


Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or
$31,200.00 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has
$31,200.00.


Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for
his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now
has $24,031.00.


Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and
local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has
$31,200.00.


Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or
welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per
year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.


Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps
and welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.


Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe
Legal now has $9,631.00.


Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Jose
Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal
still has $ 31,200.00.


Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for insurance. Joe Legal
now has $7,231.00.


Jose Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has
$31,200.00.


Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.


Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities,
gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.


Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after
work.


Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.


Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school. Joe
Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get
a government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal's children have an after
school ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home.


Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services,
but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.


Do you get it, now?


It's way PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans
 

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You're right, when are we going to start jailing these employers who break the law and employ illegals?
Most illegals carry fake ID cards, whether they are green cards or Social Security cards or what have you. It is very difficult to get a conviction on an employer that hired an illegal immigrant when the prospective employee provided them with documentation(albeit fake). The employers cannot be expected to verify the authenticity of the documents.
 

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Most illegals carry fake ID cards, whether they are green cards or Social Security cards or what have you. It is very difficult to get a conviction on an employer that hired an illegal immigrant when the prospective employee provided them with documentation(albeit fake). The employers cannot be expected to verify the authenticity of the documents.
in that case they paid taxes. think much?
 

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Your question was, "why don't we jail the employers". I answered that for YOU. You are quite welcome. Oh, that's right you didn't thank me did you?:eek:
because you were mistaken,

from the original post

Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number,
and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".


think much?
 

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I think Jose went back to Brazil

Jose doesn't make $15 under the table
Maybe $8, but that's pushing it


Heck, I doubt Joe makes $15 these days
 

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in that case they paid taxes. think much?
If they have fake papers, that makes it much easier for them to get free handouts from the government. Are they paying their taxes? Do they file tax returns? How many dependents are they claiming? When it's fake, and they are breaking the law, how much do you think they care if they scam the taxman? DO YOU THINK MUCH?:D:
 

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They need to unilaterally enforce immigration. From the fat cats that hire them, to the illegals that inundate our country. I don't blame the illegals for coming here, they are trying to better themselves. I have a problem with them NOT learning English, taking advantage of welfare,etc., and generally usurping neighborhoods.
 

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They need to unilaterally enforce immigration. From the fat cats that hire them, to the illegals that inundate our country. I don't blame the illegals for coming here, they are trying to better themselves. I have a problem with them NOT learning English, taking advantage of welfare,etc., and generally usurping neighborhoods.
yep, they're just looking to make some money. it's the employer who's selling out his fellow countryman.
 

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Employers are required to fill out form I-9 for each employee, which verifies employment eligibility. Fake documentation would be quickly discovered.

As an employer, it's clear to me that ineligible employees persist primarily because of employers' desire to game the system at the expense of eligible potential employees (whether citizens or not).
 

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Good job you leftwing fa gg ot, have fun, if you could be at all cordial, this forum might be worth talking on. But you have to be a s hithead,and say "think much" F uck you you piece of sh1t! Now I am going to tell kev goodbye and go make some youtube videos about this site.

Bye bye, don't let the browser hit your a ss on the way out :thumb:
 

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Employers are required to fill out form I-9 for each employee, which verifies employment eligibility. Fake documentation would be quickly discovered.

As an employer, it's clear to me that ineligible employees persist primarily because of employers' desire to game the system at the expense of eligible potential employees (whether citizens or not).
Not that easy. I have sat on a federal grand jury for an 8 month period, try to get a DA to file charges on an employer for accepting even crappy looking forged papers.
 

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Now I am going to tell kev goodbye and go make some youtube videos about this site.
I want to thank you in advance for the advertising, any advertising is good advertising.

Be sure to post the videos on all of the forums you visit.

PS - enjoy your 6 month ban.
 

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butcherboy said he is leaving the site and he is going to give us some free advertising - can you believe it?

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Sorry, I did not mean to highjack the thread - please continue.
 
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