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The Power of the Glave
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Go on: admit it.

It's FUN to sin!

Religion has threatened hellfire and eternal damnation. Moralists have moralized endlessly on how "dissolute life-styles" can bring down civilizations.

Yet everyone--from Popes to paupers--have done it.

How many of us, whether it's true believers or atheists, really want to live a life of saintly austerity and denial.

I admit that I have "sinned" at times. Yet it hasn't made me some depraved monster.

In fact, I believe that the guilt we are told to feel, is the real sin!

Thoughts? Opinons?

P.S.> I know I'm probably going to get flamed for this post. But that's ok. I'm wearing my fire-resistant underwear.
 

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In the moment, the flesh may enjoy the sin. Later, I know I have come to regret many of my major sins. Had I lived my entire life in accordance with God's will instead of my own, I believe I would be much happier and healthier. It would be much worse if I didn't know I was forgiven; but I still have to live with the effects of my poor choices.
 

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In the moment, the flesh may enjoy the sin. Later, I know I have come to regret many of my major sins. Had I lived my entire life in accordance with God's will instead of my own, I believe I would be much happier and healthier. It would be much worse if I didn't know I was forgiven; but I still have to live with the effects of my poor choices.
Couldn't have said it better!!! Enjoying the temporary excitement and "fun" of a sinful life is replaced by the longer term sense of regret, shame, and guilt that resulted (and results) from it. Probably my biggest, current sin is the ongoing sense of guilt for sins I committed a very long time ago. I have trouble trusting that Christ has forgiven me even though He has. I have to remind myself that His blood payment is far more powerful than my shame.

Good post!!
 

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Are you, OP, born again? Believe in some sort of God? Because atheists are not allowed in the forum.

Sin harms us in the long run. I could type out a long backstory on how that came to be, for me. Suffice to say I couldn't see God's rules as a guardrail. I saw them as a fence, imprisoning me. They were keeping bad things out. When I took myself out of wholesome living I opened myself up to a lot of pain.
 

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The wages of sin include jail time (murder, false witness, theft) broken marriages (adultery), bitterness from living a life of envy, fatigue from working 7 days a week, Not having God to turn to in prayer when life is hard, not seeing my Savior when I die, etc.

The commandments that were given to us were given to us by a loving Father who wanted us to have full and rich lives. But, make your choices as it pleases you. I, for one, have never regretted being a Christian.
 

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I don't think its fun to sin. I don't want to murder anyone, steal things, lie, cheat, be consumed with envy , cheat on my husband, dishonor my parents or any of those other things.
It also depends on your exact definition of "sin" . I go by the 10 Commandment and they are all debatable.
 

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The Power of the Glave
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I don't think its fun to sin. I don't want to murder anyone, steal things, lie, cheat, be consumed with envy , cheat on my husband, dishonor my parents or any of those other things.
It also depends on your exact definition of "sin" . I go by the 10 Commandment and they are all debatable.
At the 1919 Paris Peace Conference after World War I, Woodrow Wilson was pontificating about his "Fourteen Points".

The great French politician Georges Clemenceau responded: "The Lord God gave us Ten Commandments, and we broke them".
 

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I went to a Halloween party when I when I was young and there were people in all sorts of costumes. One guy pranced around in the typical red outfit with tail and pitchfork, making himself a nuisance. Then a man came out of the crowd and asked me to dance. He was just yummy handsome, dressed in somewhat old fashioned formal wear and danced like he was born to it.

In the middle of a twirl and sidestep I asked him about the costume. What was he dressed up to be? He dipped me backwards with his face near my bosom, then lifted me back up and nuzzled my neck under my ear and whispered in a husky voice, "Have you ever danced with the Devil, my Sweet? Have you ever flirted with passion in the starlight? Would you like to surrender to temptation and desire?"

The dance ended and he gave a very theatrical half bow and melted back into the group and I knew exactly who he was playing that night. The guy in the red suit with the pitchfork didn't tempt me into anything and was only ludicrous. Sin is more than just "fun".
 

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And does the fact that sin entices you and everyone else make it OK to sin? What sin doesn't look enticing to the one considering it? That's what sin does, but far more than that. Sin seeks to place what is desired more highly than it desires God. It is lawlessness against the holiness of God and a violation of His nature. Sin violates God's holiness, His justice, and His perfection. This is precisely why we need a Savior, not a good example to follow.
 

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Joh 8:34* יהושע answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone doing sin is a servant of sin.*

Rom 6:16* Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves servants for obedience, you are servants of the one whom you obey, whether of sin to death, or of obedience to righteousness?*
 

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Go on: admit it.

It's FUN to sin!

Religion has threatened hellfire and eternal damnation. Moralists have moralized endlessly on how "dissolute life-styles" can bring down civilizations.

Yet everyone--from Popes to paupers--have done it.

How many of us, whether it's true believers or atheists, really want to live a life of saintly austerity and denial.

I admit that I have "sinned" at times. Yet it hasn't made me some depraved monster.

In fact, I believe that the guilt we are told to feel, is the real sin!

Thoughts? Opinons?
Sin does offer a fake season of fun. After sin captures you, you become a slave beyond belief.

If you don't believe me, please visit a local drug rehab or attend a local AA meeting or talk to some broken men who's families were destroyed by porn.

Maybe visit some jails and prisons and hear the stories of "Sin". After than just read the past 100 years of human history. Read about the wars, the greed, the selfishness and destruction.

After all that, if you think sin is fun and good, then I salute you.
 

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How many of us, whether it's true believers or atheists, really want to live a life of saintly austerity and denial.
Me.

For better or worse, I've had the opportunity to do and accumulate a lot of things in my life. I've sinned and attempted to do good.

I've come to fully understand the perspective of the author of Ecclesiastes.

"“I have seen all the things that are done under the sun; all of them are meaningless, a chasing after the wind.”" (Ecclesiastes 1:2)

and

"“Now all has been heard;
here is the conclusion of the matter:
Fear God and keep his commandments,
for this is the duty of all mankind”" (Ecclesiastes 12:13)

Death will come for the OP as for the rest of us...possibly sooner than we would like, but never later. If we cannot prepare ourselves now, we risk putting ourselves in the shoes of the prophet Isaiah:

"So I said: “Woe is me, for I am undone! Because I am a man of unclean lips, And I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; For my eyes have seen the King, The LORD of hosts.”" (Isaiah 6:5)

Only one life,
Twill soon be past.
Only what's done for Christ will last.
 

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I don't think its fun to sin.

It also depends on your exact definition of "sin" . I go by the 10 Commandment and they are all debatable.
There is no valid personal or subjective definition of sin. Going against the will of God is a sin. Claiming anything else is just word games. If you believe the Bible is the Word of God, his will is far more than the 10 Commandments.

Ephesians 4:29 is the commandment I most struggle with these days. Telling the truth in love is much harder than my natural inclination, which is to tell the truth in anger.


Don’t let even one rotten word seep out of your mouths. Instead, offer only fresh words that build others up when they need it most. That way your good words will communicate grace to those who hear them.
Ephesians 4:29 (VOICE)
 

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Go on: admit it.

It's FUN to sin!

Religion has threatened hellfire and eternal damnation. Moralists have moralized endlessly on how "dissolute life-styles" can bring down civilizations.

Yet everyone--from Popes to paupers--have done it.

How many of us, whether it's true believers or atheists, really want to live a life of saintly austerity and denial.

I admit that I have "sinned" at times. Yet it hasn't made me some depraved monster.

In fact, I believe that the guilt we are told to feel, is the real sin!

Thoughts? Opinons?
I admit it. I wouldn't choose sin at times if in those choices I didn't believe it offered something desirable. I have ALWAYS regretted the choice sooner or later, and the regret/consequences always make the temporary pleasure of the sin not worth it.

The guilt we feel is a good guardrail that keeps us running back to God for forgiveness, healing, and power to fight again another day.

Individual acts of sin do not make anyone a depraved monster. Sin is bigger than that. It is an enslaver that produces the acts, and the acts empower the slavery. The monstrous depravity comes from within and produces the actions, not the other way around.

"The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks."

Luke 6:45 (ESV)
 

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I certainly desire to live a godly life, but I am also keenly aware that I fail in that regard over and over again. Thus, the Divine Service begins with an invocation in God's holy name: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, but then immediately begins with a confession of sin:

"I, a poor miserable sinner, confess unto You all my sins and iniquities with which I have ever offended You and justly deserve Your temporal and eternal punishment. But I am heartily sorry for them and sincerely repent of them, and I pray You of Your boundless mercy and for the sake of the holy, innocent, bitter sufferings and death of Your beloved Son, Jesus Christ, to be gracious and merciful to me, a poor, sinful being."

Then our Pastor turns to us and says:

"Upon this, your confession, I, by virtue of my office, as a called and ordained servant of the Word, announce the grace of God unto all of you, and in the stead and by the command of my Lord Jesus Christ, I forgive you all your sins in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." [John 20:22-23]

Right off the bat we acknowledge that we are unworthy to be in the very presence of God without the forgiveness which is ours in Christ. Seems a pretty good place to start.
 

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Sin does offer a fake season fun. After sin captures you, you become a slave beyond belief.

If you don't believe me, please visit a local drug rehab or attend a local AA meeting or talk to some broken men who's families were destroyed by porn.

Maybe visit some jails and prisons and hear the stories or "Sin". After than just read the past 100 years of human history. Read about the wars, the greed, the selfishness and destruction.

After all that, if you think sin is fun and good, then I salute you.

People dying everyday of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, etc., due to the sin of gluttony.


People dying of AIDS, Hepatitis, and various venereal diseases due to the sin of sexual promiscuity.


People dying of lung cancer due to the sin of smoking. (1 Corinthians 6:15-20)


People dying in car crashes due to the sin of driving drunk or under the influence of drugs.



Sin, generally speaking = death.
 
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