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David Freddoso's magnificent new book, The Case Against Barack Obama describes the forefather to "community organizers" like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton -- the famed Saul Alinsky.

Alinsky is sort of the George Washington of "community organizers." If there were an America-hater's Mount Rushmore, Saul Alinsky would be on it. He tried to hire Hillary to work for him right out of Wellesley. A generation later, those who had trained with Alinsky did hire Obama as a community organizer.

In Freddoso's book , he quotes from the dedication in the first edition of Alinsky's seminal book, "Rules for Radicals," where Alinsky wrote:

"Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: From all our legends, mythology and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins -- or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer."
 

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Uhhhhhhh, yeah, Im pretty sure he is.

Hey FX, never served your country or let alone known/talked to any radical islamic folks have ya. That Ok you dont have to tell me. I know the answer. I just proved my point.
 

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The Case Against Barack Obama is an excellent book... The problem is that those that support him and his socialist views refuse to see the truth. He is the absolute worst far left wacko and his supporters are of that same vein. Anti-God, Anti-American, etc. runs rampant in this country as is evidenced by their choice for President.

Rest assured, he will not win. There are still too many God fearing, Americans left and they will be at the polls when they open.
 

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Uhhhhhhh, yeah, Im pretty sure he is.

Hey FX, never served your country or let alone known/talked to any radical islamic folks have ya. That Ok you dont have to tell me. I know the answer. I just proved my point.
Most of the fundamentalists prove their own points. That's the problem.
 

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No I am not insane! And I am not a "Radical Christian" as a Radical is aganist the establishment. I am just someone who loves my country and does not want to see it destroyed due to the ignorance of a bunch of sheople who are following the Pied Piper into the sea.

WAKE UP before it is too late!!!
 

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Most of the fundamentalists prove their own points. That's the problem.
It is almost impossible to prove any point no matter how obvious that point is to someone who is out of touch with reality.

“Just listen to the Piper, he’s playing your tune. Go to the water, relax it will all be over soon”.

WAKE UP Sheople!
 

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no he isn't.

Are you insane?

here's another question.

Are christians and muslims equally ignorant?
I think that both Christian’s & Muslim’s intellect runs the gamut from low to high. I have meet many very smart & highly educated Muslims but I do not agree with their theology.

I do believe however that on average the people who lean to the left have a much lower IQ than those on the right. I am not referring to their leaders the ones who pull the strings and reap all the benefits. I am speaking about the followers who believe all the rhetoric and blindly support their on enslavement.
 

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Most of the fundamentalists prove their own points. That's the problem.
PROVE me wrong. I have clear vision, yours is fogged. I have perspective that most people dont. I have been around the world. Ive seen third world countries first hand. Have you? You see........you lack worldly expirence. Americas surface is seen by most, it looks like disney land. Go around the world and see the shat holes and all of sudden everything looks a lot darker. Everything, everywhere. You havent seen evil son...VOTE OBAMA then u will
 

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I do believe however that on average the people who lean to the left have a much lower IQ than those on the right.nt.
Interesting, most college professors and scientists lean left.
Is it a conspiracy? Most independent thinkers don't march in lockstep and identify themselves as left OR right.
 

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Interesting, most college professors and scientists lean left.
Is it a conspiracy? Most independent thinkers don't march in lockstep and identify themselves as left OR right.
Most college professors and scientists are isolated in their own little worlds and very out of touch with the realities of the world that most of us face every day. And they are twice removed from the 3rd world that hanklet0 is referring to. Grant money is what they live for and this is what determines the way they lean. Also, they know that they are not held accountable under a Left leaning administration so they lean left.

I disagree with you when you say that most independent thinkers are on the left.

The Right is Independence and the Left is Socialistic.

But it is not Right against Left,

It is Right against Wrong!
 

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PROVE me wrong. I have clear vision, yours is fogged. I have perspective that most people dont. I have been around the world. Ive seen third world countries first hand. Have you? You see........you lack worldly expirence. Americas surface is seen by most, it looks like disney land. Go around the world and see the shat holes and all of sudden everything looks a lot darker. Everything, everywhere. You havent seen evil son...VOTE OBAMA then u will
OMG, this is so funny. Particularly the, "You havent seen evil son" bit. You guys make this **** up, or is there some kind of dogma key phrase software they hand out with the tin foil?

I have not been entertained by a thread as much as this in a long time.

Please, keep going. I am interested in your complete manifesto.
 

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OMG, this is so funny. Particularly the, "You havent seen evil son" bit. You guys make this **** up, or is there some kind of dogma key phrase software they hand out with the tin foil?

I have not been entertained by a thread as much as this in a long time.

Please, keep going. I am interested in your complete manifesto.
Enlighten me with your worldly travels. You havent seen it eather otherwise you would agree. Its Ok though. A few fight and spill blood so you can keep living in the blue ball of love. Go plant a tree and focus on leaving a smaller carbon footprint wildjo, I'll go on being a gear in the "evil bush administration war machine with pleasure"
 

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He says that although he believes Christ died for his sins, those who reject that teaching can also be children of God.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/uploadedFiles/Media/Audio/2008/03/27/Obama%202%20Not%20everyone%20needs%20to%20be%20Christian.mp3

Is he anti-Christ? At this point in time, I don't know, but I like the quote below.

"Always remember this, God is in control and will allow or use anyone of us to fullfill His Plan and Purposes, regardless if their name is Bush or Obama or Clinton ....God is in control. He is sovereign."
 

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OMG, this is so funny. Particularly the, "You havent seen evil son" bit. You guys make this **** up, or is there some kind of dogma key phrase software they hand out with the tin foil?

I have not been entertained by a thread as much as this in a long time.

Please, keep going. I am interested in your complete manifesto.
You are so sure of yourself having lived your life in the safety that this country provides you that you are clueless as to what true evil is!

I have looked down the barrel of an AK47 while the Communist Angolan soldier demanded all of the money. I was robbed in the Congo by a French speaking policeman. I was living in Venezuela when Hugo Chavez took that mineral rich paradise and turned it into a nonproductive, crime laden ghetto with his leftist revolution. I was thrown in jail in there just for not having my papers on me when the National Guard asked for them. I have been all over the world and there are some nice places but none as nice or as free as the USA.

One day when things get really tough the people like you who are used to being handed things are the ones who will suffer the worst. Then you will realize the error of your ways. But by then it will be too late!
 

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You are so sure of yourself having lived your life in the safety that this country provides you that you are clueless as to what true evil is!

I have looked down the barrel of an AK47 while the Communist Angolan soldier demanded all of the money. I was robbed in the Congo by a French speaking policeman. I was living in Venezuela when Hugo Chavez took that mineral rich paradise and turned it into a nonproductive, crime laden ghetto with his leftist revolution. I was thrown in jail in there just for not having my papers on me when the National Guard asked for them. I have been all over the world and there are some nice places but none as nice or as free as the USA.

One day when things get really tough the people like you who are used to being handed things are the ones who will suffer the worst. Then you will realize the error of your ways. But by then it will be too late!
Really, what's wrong with Sweden, Germany etc?
They have freedom but don't go around invading other countries.
 

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Really, what's wrong with Sweden, Germany etc?
They have freedom but don't go around invading other countries.
My mother was from Sweden it is a nice place to visit but I wouldn't live there. You are basically taxed on top of your taxes and it is very hard to get ahead. Sweden has managed to survive mainly due to location and the fact that countries like ours stopped invading countries like GERMANY before they had time to spread that far. If it was not for the USA the world map would be much different today.

Please in the future read a history book before you come up with such idiotic questions.:rolleyes:
 

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My mother was from Sweden it is a nice place to visit but I wouldn't live there. You are basically taxed on top of your taxes and it is very hard to get ahead. Sweden has managed to survive mainly due to location and the fact that countries like ours stopped invading countries like GERMANY before they had time to spread that far. If it was not for the USA the world map would be much different today.

Please in the future read a history book before you come up with such idiotic questions.:rolleyes:
A world war has nothing to do with invading Iraq. I wonder how many of you would be gung ho nazis if you were in the German Army at the time of Hitler.
Would you be spinning the same lies in support of war?
Sweden is in no danger of being invaded. Your argument is nothing more than a strawman
 
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