Iran: A threat to our way of life?
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No. Iran is a threat. It is not a threat to our way of life and it is not a big enough problem to warrant a pre-emptive war.
People need to get a grip. For most people, just saying something is a "threat" is enough to get them going. There always have and will always be threats. We can waste our time running every one to ground and in the process, bankrupt ourselves. Or we can be a little more circumspect in how we apply military power.
People need to get a grip. For most people, just saying something is a "threat" is enough to get them going. There always have and will always be threats. We can waste our time running every one to ground and in the process, bankrupt ourselves. Or we can be a little more circumspect in how we apply military power.
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To much heat in the Darkside for you? Trying to drum up more support here? What is your real anti-American agenda?
yes, iran is threat to our way of life. iran is trying to undo the petrodollar and destabilized the us economy by undermining the dollar as the world reserve currency. how is that a threat? this means americans would need to return to the level of standards that everyone is enduring. name one american who is willing to pay $8 a gallon for fuel.
furthermore, it would force america to be a team player with everyone else in the world. no way. the us way or the highway; the us is not going to give up it's power. so yes, iran is a threat.
furthermore, it would force america to be a team player with everyone else in the world. no way. the us way or the highway; the us is not going to give up it's power. so yes, iran is a threat.
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I voted NO.
Iran isn't a threat. Despite 30 years of sanctions, and countless attacks inside their borders, they have never lashed out at the USA.
Even after Iran Air flight 655 was shot out of the air by US warships, killing 290 innocent civilians, they never lashed out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
Even during the 1979 hostange crisis, all hostages were freed, none killed. The only Americans who died were the special forces commandos who flubbed a rescue mission. One Iranian soldier died.
Sour grapes and lots of oil.
Iran isn't a threat. Despite 30 years of sanctions, and countless attacks inside their borders, they have never lashed out at the USA.
Even after Iran Air flight 655 was shot out of the air by US warships, killing 290 innocent civilians, they never lashed out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
Even during the 1979 hostange crisis, all hostages were freed, none killed. The only Americans who died were the special forces commandos who flubbed a rescue mission. One Iranian soldier died.
Sour grapes and lots of oil.
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YES, if the Iranians send those women NINJAs are way!
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NO, if the Iranians send those women NINJAs are way!
Either way, it doesnt matter...
And,
NO, if the Iranians send those women NINJAs are way!
Either way, it doesnt matter...
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A Nuclear Iran changes everything..They want it for the same reason that North Korea wants it..so the rest of the world will think they are important.
Iran was important 3000 years ago and they feel left out...but they dont get it..the reson the world left them out is because they suck
Iran was important 3000 years ago and they feel left out...but they dont get it..the reson the world left them out is because they suck
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A threat to our pocketbook more than anything.
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WE are the THREAT to our way of life. These other countries are NOT FORCEING us to go into debt or start wars or get into nation building. WE have been sold out by the people we elected to represent our interests. While we played they were bought and paid for by multi countries giant corps. NOW we have to deal with WHAT WE CREATED. Just look around DOES any of what you see represent the america of just 50 yrs ago?????
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Iran is not a threat to our immediate life. Unless they have suicide terrorist bombers. Which they might have I think. But, Iran is a threat to our life unintentionally by cutting national resources off, and slowing down and stopping commerce.
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I see the normal, "I know something more than you, because I read conspiracy theroies" are on here.
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SO sorry i didnt know your opinion was right And mine was WRONG. guess i better read the rules again.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, BUT, the PEOPLE of Iran (not the govt.) are more like us than any of the others, save Israel.
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Yes and no.............
Iran by their actions, the world reactions and such will have global economic repercussions.
Only because of our fossil fuel dependencies can Iran have effects on our way of life by driving the market prices of crude into insanity levels.
Iran by their actions, the world reactions and such will have global economic repercussions.
Only because of our fossil fuel dependencies can Iran have effects on our way of life by driving the market prices of crude into insanity levels.
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I said other
it should be Islam not just iran as a threat to our way of life
it should be Islam not just iran as a threat to our way of life
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Voted no.
I don't think Iran poses any threat to the US itself. It does threaten the dollar, but I think that is due to the US sanctions on it for the last 30 years or so, but then why would anyone use the currency of a country that repeatedly seizes your assets and refuses to sell you anything useful (including software).
The US has been after Iran since the rather embarrasing hostage crisis in which the US military was made to look rather foolish Don't get me wrong I firmly believe the US will invade Iran this year but not for the reasons the politicians and news stations tell us.
This is how I see the conflict unfolding:
The war will be swift with lots of nice eye candy, but the US will win and the corps who build the armaments will win even bigger. The real losers will be the common Iranians who will get killed and have their infrastructure destroyed then "rebuilt" in the US privatized model by a newly installed puppet government whilst the long term oil contracts will be given to the BP and Exxon. Of course there will be elections but certain parties will be banned for not having the right policies and then the whole circus will be heralded as a democratic success.
The only other losers of course will be the common US and allied citizens who will have to pay for all the new food/equipment plus the exorbitant handling fees of the non bid supply contractors whilst at home they see medical, social care and welfare cut in the name of austerity.
It is all a great big waste of money, but most importantly lives, as hundreds of thousands people (if not more) will die if this kicks off
I don't think Iran poses any threat to the US itself. It does threaten the dollar, but I think that is due to the US sanctions on it for the last 30 years or so, but then why would anyone use the currency of a country that repeatedly seizes your assets and refuses to sell you anything useful (including software).
The US has been after Iran since the rather embarrasing hostage crisis in which the US military was made to look rather foolish Don't get me wrong I firmly believe the US will invade Iran this year but not for the reasons the politicians and news stations tell us.
This is how I see the conflict unfolding:
The war will be swift with lots of nice eye candy, but the US will win and the corps who build the armaments will win even bigger. The real losers will be the common Iranians who will get killed and have their infrastructure destroyed then "rebuilt" in the US privatized model by a newly installed puppet government whilst the long term oil contracts will be given to the BP and Exxon. Of course there will be elections but certain parties will be banned for not having the right policies and then the whole circus will be heralded as a democratic success.
The only other losers of course will be the common US and allied citizens who will have to pay for all the new food/equipment plus the exorbitant handling fees of the non bid supply contractors whilst at home they see medical, social care and welfare cut in the name of austerity.
It is all a great big waste of money, but most importantly lives, as hundreds of thousands people (if not more) will die if this kicks off
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Chess board thinking only goes so far. There are far too many variables to say with any certainty that this and that will happen. Just look at the Iraq war. It was supposed to take a few weeks, then ended up being a 9 year fiasco.
Keep in mind that Iran is a bigger country than Iraq. Very mountainous, meaning slow advance and lots of combat. It is a far wealthier country than Iraq, meaning better weapons. The population of Iran is young, something like 45% of its people are under 30 years old, meaning LOTS of able body young fighters. Iranians are very patriotic and have grown up with the Islamic Revolution and have little exposure to western culture, meaning they are not all secretly wishing for McDonald's, Super Bowl commercials, and "American freedom".
A war with Iran will take a long time, and will be very expensive in both money and lives. They are not fools, and have been preparing for an attack for many years. Casualties will no doubt be more like Vietnam, as opposed to Iraq. If the Iraq war cost several trillion dollars, how much do you think an attack on Iran will cost? And is it really worth it?
Keep in mind that Iran is a bigger country than Iraq. Very mountainous, meaning slow advance and lots of combat. It is a far wealthier country than Iraq, meaning better weapons. The population of Iran is young, something like 45% of its people are under 30 years old, meaning LOTS of able body young fighters. Iranians are very patriotic and have grown up with the Islamic Revolution and have little exposure to western culture, meaning they are not all secretly wishing for McDonald's, Super Bowl commercials, and "American freedom".
A war with Iran will take a long time, and will be very expensive in both money and lives. They are not fools, and have been preparing for an attack for many years. Casualties will no doubt be more like Vietnam, as opposed to Iraq. If the Iraq war cost several trillion dollars, how much do you think an attack on Iran will cost? And is it really worth it?
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