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India and Pakistan have been at each others throats for 100's of years, throw in a nuclear weapon or two and sooner or later one of these two volitile nations will press the button.

India using mumbai as an excuse or Pakistan using incursions across there borders chasing terrorists as theirs. It's only a matter of time.
 

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India and Pakistan have been at each others throats for 100's of years, throw in a nuclear weapon or two and sooner or later one of these two volitile nations will press the button.

India using mumbai as an excuse or Pakistan using incursions across there borders chasing terrorists as theirs. It's only a matter of time.
Smudge, I agree. Today is the deadline India gave Pakistan,and Pakistan ain't playing ball.:xeye:
 

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Maybe Congress can intervene and give them both a bailout, an economic stimuls package or maybe Obama will walk across the Indian Ocean and bring peace to the region? :taped:
 

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I'm betting on india too.
this may be the straw that broke the camel's back
like Smudge said 100's of years of conflict is gonna
come to a head sooner or later
 

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India and Pakistan have been at each others throats for 100's of years, throw in a nuclear weapon or two and sooner or later one of these two volitile nations will press the button.

India using mumbai as an excuse or Pakistan using incursions across there borders chasing terrorists as theirs. It's only a matter of time.
The Hindu's and the Muslims have been fighting for hundreds of years in India, true,

but prior to 1948 Pakistan (and Bangladesh) did not exist for they were a part of India.
 

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Let'im nuke each other, it will take out a few hundred million people that cause nothing but problems anyway, and it will really screw the Red Chinese because they will get most of the radiation...we could do without them as well....
 

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The Hindu's and the Muslims have been fighting for hundreds of years in India, true,

but prior to 1948 Pakistan (and Bangladesh) did not exist for they were a part of India.
You are of course correct, I was thinking mainly of pakistan being a muslim country (and the history of agro between Muslim Hindu and Sikh) and should have clarified but seasonal cheer being 40% proof I engaged fingers before brain :thumb:
 

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I'm right with you 1stMAW, I'm a firm believer in totally destroying your enemy.
muslims want us dead simply because we won't convert to their religion.
so, I say to hell with em, hey when anybody catches a muslim fighter,
slap him with a pork chop before you ice him, muslims believe that touching
pork is instant damnation, great to know for interrogation purposes
 

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Murderface8,

It worked for the British in North Africa and it worked for us in the Philipines...Before executing muslim fighters they would drench them in pigs blood and then shoot them, then they would bury them upside down facing west....they would then release a few horrified prisoners who would tell everyone else what would happen if they were caught.
The British also greased their bullets in pig grease....It had a hell of an effect on the mislim fighters....they stopped fighting!!!!
the same in the philipines with the American army under BlackJack Pershing when we were fighting the Moros....they stopped fighting....
I personally think the United States should take the iniatitive and "tactically nuke" every muslim country, hitting only the main population centers, you could probably eradicate
90% of the scum.....
 

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cover one with pig blood or grease, give him the brain test.
then ask the ones left the questions. good stuff.
hey everyone say that when you go in to talk about guns & ammo.
it'll scare the hell out of em
 

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Murderface8,

It worked for the British in North Africa and it worked for us in the Philipines...Before executing muslim fighters they would drench them in pigs blood and then shoot them, then they would bury them upside down facing west....they would then release a few horrified prisoners who would tell everyone else what would happen if they were caught.
The British also greased their bullets in pig grease....It had a hell of an effect on the mislim fighters....they stopped fighting!!!!
the same in the philipines with the American army under BlackJack Pershing when we were fighting the Moros....they stopped fighting....
I personally think the United States should take the iniatitive and "tactically nuke" every muslim country, hitting only the main population centers, you could probably eradicate
90% of the scum.....
That's an absolute lie. Why do you lie?

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.asp
 

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Snopes says "UNDERTERMINED" and everything I have read on the American war with the Moros, backs what I said up, Not the "leftist leaning" snopes proofs...Perhaps if you read some history on your own instead of comic books andf leftist drivel, what you say might have more respect on this sight.....
How much have you read on the Moros, the Philipine Insurrection, The Spanish-American war anyway? Once you do,you will understand why Pershing did this to Moro prisoners....
 

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FXjohn,

Snopes says "UNDERTERMINED" and everything I have read on the American war with the Moros, backs what I said up, Not the "leftist leaning" snopes proofs...Perhaps if you read some history on your own instead of comic books andf leftist drivel, what you say might have more respect on this sight.....
How much have you read on the Moros, the Philipine Insurrection, The Spanish-American war anyway? Once you do,you will understand why Pershing did this to Moro prisoners....
Snopes is "left leaning"??

I guess under the assumption that Stephen Colbert was right.

"facts have a well known liberal bias"

Is Urbanlegends also a commie site?

I wonder who I should trust? Dr. Frank E. Vandiver, professor of history at Texas A&M University and author of "Black Jack: The Life and Times of John J. Pershing," or..."1st Maw"??

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_black_jack_pershing.htm

General 'Black Jack' Pershing vs. Muslim Terrorists
Netlore Archive: Did U.S. General 'Black Jack' Pershing rid the Philippines of Islamic extremism in 1911 by executing a group of Muslim terrorists and burying them in a grave filled with pig's blood and entrails?

Description: Email rumor
Circulating since: Sep 2001
Status: False



Variant #1:
Email example contributed by T. Braquet, 21 Sep 2001:

HOW TO STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISTS...... it worked once in our History...

Once in U.S. history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped. It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison. There had been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so "Black Jack" told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a lesson.

Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style. The U.S. soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs' blood. This would mean that they could not enter Heaven, even if they died as terrorist martyrs.

All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog guts dumped atop the bodies. The lone survivor was allowed to escape back to the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the others. This brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next 50 years.

Pointing a gun into the face of Islamic terrorists won't make them flinch.

They welcome the chance to die for Allah. Like Gen. Pershing, we must show them that they won't get to Muslim heaven (which they believe has an endless supply of virgins) but instead will die with the hated pigs of the devil.




Variant #2:
Email example contributed by K. Hanson, 3 Dec 2002:

A True story about General "Black Jack" Pershing.

Born September 13th, 1860 near Laclede, Mississippi
Died July 15th, 1948 in Washington, D.C.
1891 Professor of Military Science and Tactics University of Nebraska
1898 Serves in the Spanish-American War
1901 Awarded rank of Captain
1906 Promoted to rank of Brigadier General
1909 Military Governor of Moro Province, Philippines
1916 Made Major General
1919 Promoted to General of the Armies
1921 Appointed Chief of Staff
1924 Retires from active duty
Education: 4 Years-West Point

One important thing to remember is that Muslims detest pork because they believe pigs are filthy animals. Some of them simply refuse to eat it, while others won't even touch pigs at all, nor any of their by-products. To them, eating or touching a pig, its meat, its blood, etc., is to be instantly barred from paradise and doomed to hell.

Just before World War I, there were a number of terrorist attacks against the United States and it's interests by, you guessed it, Muslim extremists.

So General Pershing captured 50 of the terrorists and had them tied to posts execution style. He then had his men bring in two pigs and slaughter them in front of the, now horrified, terrorists.

The soldiers then soaked their bullets in pigs blood, and proceeded to execute 49 of the terrorists by firing squad.

The soldiers then dug a big hole, dumped in the terrorist's bodies and covered them in pig blood, entrails, etc.

They let the 50th man go. And for about the next 42 years, there was not a single attack by a muslim fanatic anywhere in the world.



Comments: I consulted Dr. Frank E. Vandiver, professor of history at Texas A&M University and author of "Black Jack: The Life and Times of John J. Pershing," to find out if there's any truth to the above, and he responded via email that in his opinion the story is apocryphal. "I never found any indication that it was true in extensive research on his Moro experiences," Vandiver responded. "This kind of thing would have run completely against his character."

Similarly, I been unable to find any evidence corroborating the claim that Muslims believe that "eating or touching a pig, its meat, its blood, etc., is to be instantly barred from paradise and doomed to hell." It is true that Islamic dietary restrictions, like those of Judaism, forbid the eating or handling of pork because pigs are considered unclean. But according to Raeed Tayeh of the American Muslim Association in North America, the notion that a Muslim would be denied entrance to heaven for touching a pig is "ridiculous." A statement from the Anti-Defamation League characterizes the claim as an "offensive caricature of Muslim beliefs."
 

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Read about the British Empires colonial wars with the "Fuzzi Wuzzis" and the muslim jihads, the seige of Kartum....Though I respect Dr. Vandiver, his is not a military account of the war....and because civilians, like yourself, do not understand the brutality of war and what has to be done sometimes will not be exposed to the public viewing and knowledge.....it happened.......
 
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