It would look like a tropical island that I purchased, hopefully far enough from the tradewinds that could bring contamination.
*daydream thread*
If you had exactly 20 million dollars for the sole purpose of building a fallout shelter, what would your fallout 'dream' shelter be like??
LOL!!! Now that's what I call a COMPLETE awnser!*Where would you build your fallout 'dream' shelter? Your home state? In the side of a mountain, or underground?
Underground in the Missouri Ozarks or Wyoming Black Hills or Nevada High Desert
16KW 48v input solar/wind power system with 120v/240v inverter system
2 banks of 24 each 2.2v 7,000amp submarine batteries with 152 dry spares & acid to activate them
4 12.5KW generators with 10,000 gallon fuel tanks, spare lubricants & filters, 12 rebuild kits
*How big would your shelter be? Enough for you and your family or enough for your entire neighborhood?
Big enough for my extended family and guests – 2 bedrooms & four 8-person dorm rooms
*Would you rely solely on prepped foods or would you invest in a major Hydroponics farm?
Would have a working farm with food crops and animals
Evergreen tree barrier-strip/wood-lot
20-year full cycle coppicing wood lot
Wild wood lot(s) w/usable wild plants
Wild meadow(s) w/usable wild plants
Wild marsh/bog w/usable wild plants
Domestic stock & wild animal grazing areas w/mobile fences
Purple Martin birdhouse colony on raise/lower poles
Bat house colony on raise/lower poles
Natural habitat located beehives
Heavy duty, multi-fuel, free standing incinerator
Private cemetery w/building
Earth bermed fuel tank bunker
Estate-wide security, fire, & video monitoring system components
Garden, orchard & greenhouse located beehives
Fruit tree orchard
Nut tree orchard
Berry & ground fruit patch
Vegetable garden
Spice & herb garden
Rock & mineral garden
Greenhouse w/fish tanks, mushroom cabinet, & outside rabbit hutches w/worm beds
Irrigation well & pumps
Garden utility shed
3 Woodsheds
Barn
Horse stable w/pasture/corral area
Dog kennel
Equipment shed w/horse drawn equipment
Modern Farming equipment building
General shop building
Ice house w/ice making equipment & storage
Curing/smoking/drying shed
*Would you have any Ham Radio set ups at all?
Communications system – portable, vehicular, base
Portable/handhelds communication devices
Cellular Phone
Oregon Scientific NWS EAS SAME receiver
Motorola 1700 FRS/GMRS radio (pair)
Uniden Bearcat BCD396XT Trunking PS Band scanner
Cobra HH38WXST handheld CB radio
Yaesu VX-8R 6m-70cm Amateur Handheld radio
Motorola HT-1250 low band handheld business band
Motorola CP 200 VHF 4 channel 5 watt handheld business band
Motorola CP 200 UHF 4 channel 4 watt handheld business band
Yaesu FT-817ND (5w/2.5w, int bat/AA bat/ext) Portable HF Amateur radio
Miracle Whip - tunable portable whip (wouldn't even consider wide banding to replace the units above and below lol)
Standard-Horizon HX471S handheld marine band
ICOM A24 handheld air band
Yaesu VR-500 broadband receiver
Miracle Whip - tunable portable whip
Vehicle radios & antennas
Oregon Scientific NWS EAS SAME receiver
Motorola 1700 FRS/GMRS radio (pair)
2 Uniden Bearcat BCD396XT PS Band scanner
2 Bearcat BCD396XT Remote control head
2 Hustler MRM scanner mobile antenna
Yaesu VR-500 broadband receiver
KJ7U KW 6-160 screwdriver antenna
Yaesu ATAS 120 w/mount, triplexer & coax
Hustler MRM scanner mobile antenna
Cobra 148GTL SSB/AM CB radio
Wilson 5000 Roof B mobile CB antenna
Yaesu FT-8900R 10m - 70cm mobile Amateur radio
Diamond 8900A 10m - 70cm w/mount & coax
Yaesu FT-897D (100w/ int bat/ext 12v) mobile Amateur radio (wouldn't wide band this one either!)
KJ7U KW 6-160 screwdriver antenna
Yaesu ATAS 120 w/mount, triplexer & coax
Motorola CDM 1550 low band Business band
Wilson 5000 Roof B mobile CB antenna cut to business band
Motorola CM 300 VHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
gain antenna
Motorola CM 300 UHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
gain antenna
Furuno FS1503EM HF/SSB marine radio
KJ7U KW 6-160 screwdriver antenna
Furuno FM3000 VHF marine radio
Wilson 2m mag mount (cut to Marine band)
ICOM IC-A200 mobile airband radio w/mount & antenna
Wilson 2m mag mount (cut to Air band)
Shelter communications center
XM/Sirius satellite radio w/antenna
AM/FM radio
Direct TV satellite dish (2) each w/2 4-LNB antennas & 8 receivers
Quad view TV flat screen monitor for Weather Ch/Fox News/…/…
Large flat screen monitor for main view TV
Laptop computer w/3 external flat screen monitors
Oregon Scientific NWS EAS SAME receiver
Motorola 1700 FRS/GMRS radio (pair)
2 Uniden Bearcat BCD396XT public service band
2 Bearcat BCD396T Remote control head
2 Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
Cobra 148GTL SSB/AM CB radio
Solarcon A99 vertical w/ground radials
Yaesu FT-8900R 10m - 70cm Amateur radio
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
Create 5130-2N 100 - 1300 log periodic
KMA 26500 26-500 log periodic antenna
Yaesu FT-2000 100w amateur transciever (and wide banding is still a no-no)
palstar 3.5kw tuner
Command Technologies HF-2500e 3.5 KW amp
Titanex DLP-22 wire log periodic 3.5-30
Titanex GB 160/10 vertical (balanced line/tuner required)
Motorola CDM 1550 low band business band
Titanex GB 160/10 vertical (balanced line/tuner required)
Motorola CM 300 VHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
Motorola CM 300 UHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
Yaesu VR-5000 wide band general coverage reciever
Titanex GB 160/10 vertical (balanced line/tuner required)
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
Titanex DLP-22 wire log periodic 3.5-30
Create 5130-2N 100 - 1300 log periodic
KMA 26500 26-500 log periodic antenna
Furuno FS1503EM HF/SSB marine radio
Hy-Gain DX-88 10 - 160 ground mount vertical
Furuno FM3000 VHF marine band mobile radio
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
ICOM IC-A200 mobile airband radio w/mount & antenna
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
4 Wineguard HD-8200 TV antenna
5 US Tower 55' HD free standing, complete
5 Yaesu G2800DXA 32 sqft windload rotators
6 Yaesu PF1030A 25 amp 13.8v power supply (to power mobile radios)
*What would you invest in defense? Surface to air missiles (not that 20 mil could buy those) or just a few handgun's and hunting rifles? How much ammo would you stock up?
Perimeter fence/wall/hedgerow w/crash resistant gates
Perimeter drainage/barrier ditch
Defensive landscaping w/dedicated tunnel connected LP/OP/fighting positions
Armory:
6- Barrett M82A1 .50 BMG anti-material rifle
6 - Vigilence VR-1 .338 Lapua sniper rifle
24 – M1A .308 MBR
24 - PTR-91 .308 MBR
24 - Remington 11-87 Sportsman 26” 12 gauge shotgun w/tactical additions
24 - .30 M1 Carbine
24 - Glock 21SF .45 ACP pistol
10 - Ruger 10/22 .22 rifle
10 - Ruger 22/45 .22 pistol
6 - HK-4 convertible .22/.25 ACP/.32 ACP/.380 ACP pistol
4 - Peter Hofer funfling 12ga x 12ga with .375 H&H Mag, over .30-’06, over .22 Hornet
2 - Weatherby Vanguard .460 Weatherby Magnum rifle
4 - Remington 798 in .375 H&H Magnum bolt action hunting rifle
6 - Remington 700 in .30-’06 bolt action hunting rifle
6 - Remington 700 in .308 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 700 in .270 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 700 in .243 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 700 in .223 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 799 in .22 Hornet
10 - Beretta Model 3032 Tomcat .32 ACP pistol
10 - Walther PPK .380 ACP pistol
4 - H&R/NEF Pardner 10 gauge 3 ½” Magnum single shot shotgun w/16 gauge insert
4 - H&R/NEF Pardner 12 gauge 3 ½” Magnum single shot shotgun w/24 & 28 gauge inserts
4 - H&R/NEF Pardner 20 gauge 3” Magnum single shot shotgun w/32 gauge & .410 bore inserts
4 - H&R/NEF Handi-gun .30-’06 w/5 .32 ACP adapters
4 - Perdesoli Mortimer 12 gauge flintlock shotgun
4 - Traditions .50 caliber flintlock rifle
12 - Traditions Trapper .50 caliber flintlock handgun
4 - Perdesoli .32 caliber flintlock rifle
Title II weapons:
6 - AA-12 12 gauge select fire shotgun
12 - 12 gauge double barrel whippet shotgun
12 - G-3/PTR-91 converted select fire MBR
12 - AUG select fire carbine
4 - Ruger 10/22 select fire integral suppressed rifle
4 - Ruger Mark III integral suppressed pistol
6 - Micro-Uzi .45 ACP submachinegun
6 - SMG - .45 ACP Calico clone w/40-round & 85-round helical magazines
6 - Armsport 2900 Trilling three-barrel 12-gauge shotguns cut down to whippets. Sets of 20-ga, .45 Colt, .44 Magnum, .357 Magnum, 9mmP, & .22RF adapters.
Custom weapons:
24 - Custom Main Battle Rifle (7.62x51 MBR): adjustable gas piston select fire action with non-reciprocating ambidextrous charging handle, auto hold open on empty magazine. Ambidextrous bolt release. Ambidextrous safety. Forward assist. M-14 stripper clip guide and M-14 sights. 22” barrel with the tri-compensator of the BM-59/62 with bayonet lug to take a custom 12” OKC-3S style bayonet. A full length barrel-in-line polymer stock with pistol grip and integrated picatinny rails that don’t interfere with the stripper clip feed. Accept a bipod. Use M-14 free fall magazines with bolt hold open followers, and have an ambidextrous magazine release.
12 - Custom ‘Scout’ Rifle: .350 Remington Magnum. Lever action operating a rotary bolt. Integral suppressed barrel. Single round & stripper clip loading. 10-round rotary magazine. Leupold Model 4 CQ/T 1-3 x 14 scope on receiver mounted QD see-through mount. Peep sight. In stock recoil reducers. Sling. Five .380 ACP to .350 Remington Magnum chamber adapters for small game hunting. Custom 12” OKC-3S style bayonet.
4 - .50GI. Custom built on Para-Ordnance P-14 frames. Extra barrel, slide, and magazines for .45ACP for each. One for carry and one spare. Plenty of magazines.
4 - Backup side arm: As above on P-10 Warthog frame. Also with .45ACP conversion.
4 - Multi-caliber 1911 pattern pistol - .50GI/.45 Super/.451 Detonics/.45ACP/.41AE/10mm/.40 S&W/.38 Super/.357 Sig/9mm
25,000 rounds each defensive weapon
2,000 rounds each hunting weapon
Components to reload each round 8 times
*What would you do for entertainment?
Full entertainment system w/collection of CDs & DVDs
Karaoke system w/collection of CD-Gs
Comprehensive library of non-fiction and selected fiction
*How would you conceal the entrance to your shelter from the outside.
Hidden basement tunnel entrance, 2 camouflaged emergency exit/entrances
*How thick would your entrance door be?
3” – 6” vault door from basement to tunnel, another from tunnel to shelter, one on each emergency tunnel
*What supplies would you bring with you?
None. Would be fully stocked (40 people for 10 years)
*What would be your water source?
2 cisterns, 2 wells, pond/lake/spring, storage containers
*How long could you survive given X number of years to live in the shelter?
10 years, minimum
Another thing you might want to address is what SHTF scenario you would build your shelter for, fallout, invasion, zombies, etc...
That’s another list completely
This is a VERY thought out and thorough list,but the property already exists in the state of NY at a converted missile base that is now a house and THE most secure underground building the govt could build in 1958 - yes with blast doors etc.Add the above to that structure [ yes its for sale ] and your home.*Where would you build your fallout 'dream' shelter? Your home state? In the side of a mountain, or underground?
Underground in the Missouri Ozarks or Wyoming Black Hills or Nevada High Desert
16KW 48v input solar/wind power system with 120v/240v inverter system
2 banks of 24 each 2.2v 7,000amp submarine batteries with 152 dry spares & acid to activate them
4 12.5KW generators with 10,000 gallon fuel tanks, spare lubricants & filters, 12 rebuild kits
*How big would your shelter be? Enough for you and your family or enough for your entire neighborhood?
Big enough for my extended family and guests – 2 bedrooms & four 8-person dorm rooms
*Would you rely solely on prepped foods or would you invest in a major Hydroponics farm?
Would have a working farm with food crops and animals
Evergreen tree barrier-strip/wood-lot
20-year full cycle coppicing wood lot
Wild wood lot(s) w/usable wild plants
Wild meadow(s) w/usable wild plants
Wild marsh/bog w/usable wild plants
Domestic stock & wild animal grazing areas w/mobile fences
Purple Martin birdhouse colony on raise/lower poles
Bat house colony on raise/lower poles
Natural habitat located beehives
Heavy duty, multi-fuel, free standing incinerator
Private cemetery w/building
Earth bermed fuel tank bunker
Estate-wide security, fire, & video monitoring system components
Garden, orchard & greenhouse located beehives
Fruit tree orchard
Nut tree orchard
Berry & ground fruit patch
Vegetable garden
Spice & herb garden
Rock & mineral garden
Greenhouse w/fish tanks, mushroom cabinet, & outside rabbit hutches w/worm beds
Irrigation well & pumps
Garden utility shed
3 Woodsheds
Barn
Horse stable w/pasture/corral area
Dog kennel
Equipment shed w/horse drawn equipment
Modern Farming equipment building
General shop building
Ice house w/ice making equipment & storage
Curing/smoking/drying shed
*Would you have any Ham Radio set ups at all?
Communications system – portable, vehicular, base
Portable/handhelds communication devices
Cellular Phone
Oregon Scientific NWS EAS SAME receiver
Motorola 1700 FRS/GMRS radio (pair)
Uniden Bearcat BCD396XT Trunking PS Band scanner
Cobra HH38WXST handheld CB radio
Yaesu VX-8R 6m-70cm Amateur Handheld radio
Motorola HT-1250 low band handheld business band
Motorola CP 200 VHF 4 channel 5 watt handheld business band
Motorola CP 200 UHF 4 channel 4 watt handheld business band
Yaesu FT-817ND (5w/2.5w, int bat/AA bat/ext) Portable HF Amateur radio
Miracle Whip - tunable portable whip (wouldn't even consider wide banding to replace the units above and below lol)
Standard-Horizon HX471S handheld marine band
ICOM A24 handheld air band
Yaesu VR-500 broadband receiver
Miracle Whip - tunable portable whip
Vehicle radios & antennas
Oregon Scientific NWS EAS SAME receiver
Motorola 1700 FRS/GMRS radio (pair)
2 Uniden Bearcat BCD396XT PS Band scanner
2 Bearcat BCD396XT Remote control head
2 Hustler MRM scanner mobile antenna
Yaesu VR-500 broadband receiver
KJ7U KW 6-160 screwdriver antenna
Yaesu ATAS 120 w/mount, triplexer & coax
Hustler MRM scanner mobile antenna
Cobra 148GTL SSB/AM CB radio
Wilson 5000 Roof B mobile CB antenna
Yaesu FT-8900R 10m - 70cm mobile Amateur radio
Diamond 8900A 10m - 70cm w/mount & coax
Yaesu FT-897D (100w/ int bat/ext 12v) mobile Amateur radio (wouldn't wide band this one either!)
KJ7U KW 6-160 screwdriver antenna
Yaesu ATAS 120 w/mount, triplexer & coax
Motorola CDM 1550 low band Business band
Wilson 5000 Roof B mobile CB antenna cut to business band
Motorola CM 300 VHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
gain antenna
Motorola CM 300 UHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
gain antenna
Furuno FS1503EM HF/SSB marine radio
KJ7U KW 6-160 screwdriver antenna
Furuno FM3000 VHF marine radio
Wilson 2m mag mount (cut to Marine band)
ICOM IC-A200 mobile airband radio w/mount & antenna
Wilson 2m mag mount (cut to Air band)
Shelter communications center
XM/Sirius satellite radio w/antenna
AM/FM radio
Direct TV satellite dish (2) each w/2 4-LNB antennas & 8 receivers
Quad view TV flat screen monitor for Weather Ch/Fox News/…/…
Large flat screen monitor for main view TV
Laptop computer w/3 external flat screen monitors
Oregon Scientific NWS EAS SAME receiver
Motorola 1700 FRS/GMRS radio (pair)
2 Uniden Bearcat BCD396XT public service band
2 Bearcat BCD396T Remote control head
2 Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
Cobra 148GTL SSB/AM CB radio
Solarcon A99 vertical w/ground radials
Yaesu FT-8900R 10m - 70cm Amateur radio
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
Create 5130-2N 100 - 1300 log periodic
KMA 26500 26-500 log periodic antenna
Yaesu FT-2000 100w amateur transciever (and wide banding is still a no-no)
palstar 3.5kw tuner
Command Technologies HF-2500e 3.5 KW amp
Titanex DLP-22 wire log periodic 3.5-30
Titanex GB 160/10 vertical (balanced line/tuner required)
Motorola CDM 1550 low band business band
Titanex GB 160/10 vertical (balanced line/tuner required)
Motorola CM 300 VHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
Motorola CM 300 UHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
Yaesu VR-5000 wide band general coverage reciever
Titanex GB 160/10 vertical (balanced line/tuner required)
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
Titanex DLP-22 wire log periodic 3.5-30
Create 5130-2N 100 - 1300 log periodic
KMA 26500 26-500 log periodic antenna
Furuno FS1503EM HF/SSB marine radio
Hy-Gain DX-88 10 - 160 ground mount vertical
Furuno FM3000 VHF marine band mobile radio
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
ICOM IC-A200 mobile airband radio w/mount & antenna
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
4 Wineguard HD-8200 TV antenna
5 US Tower 55' HD free standing, complete
5 Yaesu G2800DXA 32 sqft windload rotators
6 Yaesu PF1030A 25 amp 13.8v power supply (to power mobile radios)
*What would you invest in defense? Surface to air missiles (not that 20 mil could buy those) or just a few handgun's and hunting rifles? How much ammo would you stock up?
Perimeter fence/wall/hedgerow w/crash resistant gates
Perimeter drainage/barrier ditch
Defensive landscaping w/dedicated tunnel connected LP/OP/fighting positions
Armory:
6- Barrett M82A1 .50 BMG anti-material rifle
6 - Vigilence VR-1 .338 Lapua sniper rifle
24 – M1A .308 MBR
24 - PTR-91 .308 MBR
24 - Remington 11-87 Sportsman 26” 12 gauge shotgun w/tactical additions
24 - .30 M1 Carbine
24 - Glock 21SF .45 ACP pistol
10 - Ruger 10/22 .22 rifle
10 - Ruger 22/45 .22 pistol
6 - HK-4 convertible .22/.25 ACP/.32 ACP/.380 ACP pistol
4 - Peter Hofer funfling 12ga x 12ga with .375 H&H Mag, over .30-’06, over .22 Hornet
2 - Weatherby Vanguard .460 Weatherby Magnum rifle
4 - Remington 798 in .375 H&H Magnum bolt action hunting rifle
6 - Remington 700 in .30-’06 bolt action hunting rifle
6 - Remington 700 in .308 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 700 in .270 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 700 in .243 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 700 in .223 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 799 in .22 Hornet
10 - Beretta Model 3032 Tomcat .32 ACP pistol
10 - Walther PPK .380 ACP pistol
4 - H&R/NEF Pardner 10 gauge 3 ½” Magnum single shot shotgun w/16 gauge insert
4 - H&R/NEF Pardner 12 gauge 3 ½” Magnum single shot shotgun w/24 & 28 gauge inserts
4 - H&R/NEF Pardner 20 gauge 3” Magnum single shot shotgun w/32 gauge & .410 bore inserts
4 - H&R/NEF Handi-gun .30-’06 w/5 .32 ACP adapters
4 - Perdesoli Mortimer 12 gauge flintlock shotgun
4 - Traditions .50 caliber flintlock rifle
12 - Traditions Trapper .50 caliber flintlock handgun
4 - Perdesoli .32 caliber flintlock rifle
Title II weapons:
6 - AA-12 12 gauge select fire shotgun
12 - 12 gauge double barrel whippet shotgun
12 - G-3/PTR-91 converted select fire MBR
12 - AUG select fire carbine
4 - Ruger 10/22 select fire integral suppressed rifle
4 - Ruger Mark III integral suppressed pistol
6 - Micro-Uzi .45 ACP submachinegun
6 - SMG - .45 ACP Calico clone w/40-round & 85-round helical magazines
6 - Armsport 2900 Trilling three-barrel 12-gauge shotguns cut down to whippets. Sets of 20-ga, .45 Colt, .44 Magnum, .357 Magnum, 9mmP, & .22RF adapters.
Custom weapons:
24 - Custom Main Battle Rifle (7.62x51 MBR): adjustable gas piston select fire action with non-reciprocating ambidextrous charging handle, auto hold open on empty magazine. Ambidextrous bolt release. Ambidextrous safety. Forward assist. M-14 stripper clip guide and M-14 sights. 22” barrel with the tri-compensator of the BM-59/62 with bayonet lug to take a custom 12” OKC-3S style bayonet. A full length barrel-in-line polymer stock with pistol grip and integrated picatinny rails that don’t interfere with the stripper clip feed. Accept a bipod. Use M-14 free fall magazines with bolt hold open followers, and have an ambidextrous magazine release.
12 - Custom ‘Scout’ Rifle: .350 Remington Magnum. Lever action operating a rotary bolt. Integral suppressed barrel. Single round & stripper clip loading. 10-round rotary magazine. Leupold Model 4 CQ/T 1-3 x 14 scope on receiver mounted QD see-through mount. Peep sight. In stock recoil reducers. Sling. Five .380 ACP to .350 Remington Magnum chamber adapters for small game hunting. Custom 12” OKC-3S style bayonet.
4 - .50GI. Custom built on Para-Ordnance P-14 frames. Extra barrel, slide, and magazines for .45ACP for each. One for carry and one spare. Plenty of magazines.
4 - Backup side arm: As above on P-10 Warthog frame. Also with .45ACP conversion.
4 - Multi-caliber 1911 pattern pistol - .50GI/.45 Super/.451 Detonics/.45ACP/.41AE/10mm/.40 S&W/.38 Super/.357 Sig/9mm
25,000 rounds each defensive weapon
2,000 rounds each hunting weapon
Components to reload each round 8 times
*What would you do for entertainment?
Full entertainment system w/collection of CDs & DVDs
Karaoke system w/collection of CD-Gs
Comprehensive library of non-fiction and selected fiction
*How would you conceal the entrance to your shelter from the outside.
Hidden basement tunnel entrance, 2 camouflaged emergency exit/entrances
*How thick would your entrance door be?
3” – 6” vault door from basement to tunnel, another from tunnel to shelter, one on each emergency tunnel
*What supplies would you bring with you?
None. Would be fully stocked (40 people for 10 years)
*What would be your water source?
2 cisterns, 2 wells, pond/lake/spring, storage containers
*How long could you survive given X number of years to live in the shelter?
10 years, minimum
Another thing you might want to address is what SHTF scenario you would build your shelter for, fallout, invasion, zombies, etc...
That’s another list completely
True... but everybody knows that the silo is there... and retrofitted... in a SHTF... I'm thinking that place will get visitors... lots of em... like ants...This is a VERY thought out and thorough list,but the property already exists in the state of NY at a converted missile base that is now a house and THE most secure underground building the govt could build in 1958 - yes with blast doors etc.Add the above to that structure [ yes its for sale ] and your home.
I would take the "Big Thunder Ranch", if I had the money to blow.buy something like one of these: http://www.theranchbrokers.com/properties/featured.html
Then hire JDY to flesh out the "details"...![]()
How would you hide it from the tax assessor ?
yea check it out... wow.. http://www.fishingproperties.com/index.cfm?ID=9&Property=8I would take the "Big Thunder Ranch", if I had the money to blow.
Nothing like mountians in your view.
Way to much grass to mow.yea check it out... wow.. http://www.fishingproperties.com/index.cfm?ID=9&Property=8