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*daydream thread*:rolleyes:


If you had exactly 20 million dollars for the sole purpose of building a fallout shelter, what would your fallout 'dream' shelter be like?? Everybody talks about what they would like to do in a so called "dream house", so why not fallout shelter.

Nobody of course will blow 20 mill on a shelter, unless they are the government or Bill Gates (Bill Gates helped fund a heirloom seed shelter in Norway). None the less, small scale ideas can spur from big ones. Here are some ideas that I have been able to come up with~

*Where would you build your fallout 'dream' shelter? Your home state? In the side of a mountain, or underground?

*How big would your shelter be? Enough for you and your family or enough for your entire neighborhood?

*Would you rely solely on prepped foods or would you invest in a major Hydroponics farm?

*Would you have any Ham Radio set ups at all?

*What would you invest in defense? Surface to air missiles (not that 20 mil could buy those) or just a few handgun's and hunting rifles?

*How much ammo would you stock up?

*What would you do for entertainment?

*How would you conceal the entrance to your shelter from the outside.

*How thick would your entrance door be?

*What other supplies would you bring with you?

*What would be your water source?

*How long could you survive given X number of years to live in the shelter?

Added:*What would your source of power be?





I could go on and on, but you get the point.

Another thing you might want to address is what SHTF scenario you would build your shelter for, fallout, invasion, zombies, etc...

*just for fun, so please do not take serious*:D:
 

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*Where would you build your fallout 'dream' shelter? Your home state? In the side of a mountain, or underground?
-Underground up the side of a large hill or mountain. Probably in Vermont but more than likely in Pennsylvania where I am from. My family has land right outside of the radius if anything huge hit Pittsburgh. I would be safe, and am in the wrong direction from anything important when people leave the city.

*How big would your shelter be? Enough for you and your family or enough for your entire neighborhood?
-Big enough for myself and my girlfriend to live and raise a family later. Lots of storage room.


*Would you rely solely on prepped foods or would you invest in a major Hydroponics farm?
-Both and more.


*Would you have any Ham Radio set ups at all?
-Yes. If I had that cash I would have a setup for every type of radio I could.

*What would you invest in defense? Surface to air missiles (not that 20 mil could buy those) or just a few handgun's and hunting rifles? How much ammo would you stock up?
-Military issue firearms. I would get as much ammo as I could whether I had a weapon to fire it or not.


*What would you do for entertainment?
-I plan to build a lab/workshop in my house/shelter when I do build it so I would include it for this scenario as well. Basically space to work on radios and chemicals and all the fun stuff I like to do. My girl wants a darkroom. She always gets what she wants . :p

*How would you conceal the entrance to your shelter from the outside.
-Not sure on this. Probably rocks and other things that would not get moved.


*How thick would your entrance door be?
-Probably just over bomb blast width and well under the weight my girl can move herself.


*What supplies would you bring with you?
-Everything I could possibly cram into it.

*What would be your water source?
-Spring and filters and stored.

*How long could you survive given X number of years to live in the shelter?
- I do not understand the question lol. I would survive until I died I guess lol.



Another thing you might want to address is what SHTF scenario you would build your shelter for, fallout, invasion, zombies, etc...

All underground. Tunnels, multiple entrances and exits. I would take the time to factor in every possibility including but not limited to; terrain strategies, what will be left if a bomb hits, etc and I would build everything so I would be well off in as many situations as I could.


I am also a big fan of islands and if zombies hit, SeaLand would be one of my first stops after gathering as much as I could. Honestly with 20 million, I would make a new SeaLand right off of the coast of New England.
 

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*Where would you build your fallout 'dream' shelter? Your home state? In the side of a mountain, or underground?

Underground in the Missouri Ozarks or Wyoming Black Hills or Nevada High Desert

16KW 48v input solar/wind power system with 120v/240v inverter system

2 banks of 24 each 2.2v 7,000amp submarine batteries with 152 dry spares & acid to activate them
4 12.5KW generators with 10,000 gallon fuel tanks, spare lubricants & filters, 12 rebuild kits


*How big would your shelter be? Enough for you and your family or enough for your entire neighborhood?

Big enough for my extended family and guests – 2 bedrooms & four 8-person dorm rooms


*Would you rely solely on prepped foods or would you invest in a major Hydroponics farm?

Would have a working farm with food crops and animals
Evergreen tree barrier-strip/wood-lot
20-year full cycle coppicing wood lot
Wild wood lot(s) w/usable wild plants
Wild meadow(s) w/usable wild plants
Wild marsh/bog w/usable wild plants
Domestic stock & wild animal grazing areas w/mobile fences
Purple Martin birdhouse colony on raise/lower poles
Bat house colony on raise/lower poles
Natural habitat located beehives
Heavy duty, multi-fuel, free standing incinerator
Private cemetery w/building
Earth bermed fuel tank bunker
Estate-wide security, fire, & video monitoring system components
Garden, orchard & greenhouse located beehives
Fruit tree orchard
Nut tree orchard
Berry & ground fruit patch
Vegetable garden
Spice & herb garden
Rock & mineral garden
Greenhouse w/fish tanks, mushroom cabinet, & outside rabbit hutches w/worm beds
Irrigation well & pumps
Garden utility shed
3 Woodsheds
Barn
Horse stable w/pasture/corral area
Dog kennel
Equipment shed w/horse drawn equipment
Modern Farming equipment building
General shop building
Ice house w/ice making equipment & storage
Curing/smoking/drying shed




*Would you have any Ham Radio set ups at all?

Communications system – portable, vehicular, base

Portable/handhelds communication devices

Cellular Phone
Oregon Scientific NWS EAS SAME receiver
Motorola 1700 FRS/GMRS radio (pair)

Uniden Bearcat BCD396XT Trunking PS Band scanner

Cobra HH38WXST handheld CB radio

Yaesu VX-8R 6m-70cm Amateur Handheld radio

Motorola HT-1250 low band handheld business band
Motorola CP 200 VHF 4 channel 5 watt handheld business band
Motorola CP 200 UHF 4 channel 4 watt handheld business band

Yaesu FT-817ND (5w/2.5w, int bat/AA bat/ext) Portable HF Amateur radio
Miracle Whip - tunable portable whip (wouldn't even consider wide banding to replace the units above and below lol)

Standard-Horizon HX471S handheld marine band
ICOM A24 handheld air band

Yaesu VR-500 broadband receiver
Miracle Whip - tunable portable whip


Vehicle radios & antennas

Oregon Scientific NWS EAS SAME receiver
Motorola 1700 FRS/GMRS radio (pair)

2 Uniden Bearcat BCD396XT PS Band scanner
2 Bearcat BCD396XT Remote control head
2 Hustler MRM scanner mobile antenna

Yaesu VR-500 broadband receiver
KJ7U KW 6-160 screwdriver antenna
Yaesu ATAS 120 w/mount, triplexer & coax
Hustler MRM scanner mobile antenna

Cobra 148GTL SSB/AM CB radio
Wilson 5000 Roof B mobile CB antenna

Yaesu FT-8900R 10m - 70cm mobile Amateur radio
Diamond 8900A 10m - 70cm w/mount & coax

Yaesu FT-897D (100w/ int bat/ext 12v) mobile Amateur radio (wouldn't wide band this one either!)
KJ7U KW 6-160 screwdriver antenna
Yaesu ATAS 120 w/mount, triplexer & coax

Motorola CDM 1550 low band Business band
Wilson 5000 Roof B mobile CB antenna cut to business band
Motorola CM 300 VHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
gain antenna
Motorola CM 300 UHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
gain antenna

Furuno FS1503EM HF/SSB marine radio
KJ7U KW 6-160 screwdriver antenna
Furuno FM3000 VHF marine radio
Wilson 2m mag mount (cut to Marine band)

ICOM IC-A200 mobile airband radio w/mount & antenna
Wilson 2m mag mount (cut to Air band)



Shelter communications center

XM/Sirius satellite radio w/antenna
AM/FM radio
Direct TV satellite dish (2) each w/2 4-LNB antennas & 8 receivers
Quad view TV flat screen monitor for Weather Ch/Fox News/…/…
Large flat screen monitor for main view TV
Laptop computer w/3 external flat screen monitors

Oregon Scientific NWS EAS SAME receiver
Motorola 1700 FRS/GMRS radio (pair)

2 Uniden Bearcat BCD396XT public service band
2 Bearcat BCD396T Remote control head
2 Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna

Cobra 148GTL SSB/AM CB radio
Solarcon A99 vertical w/ground radials

Yaesu FT-8900R 10m - 70cm Amateur radio
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
Create 5130-2N 100 - 1300 log periodic
KMA 26500 26-500 log periodic antenna

Yaesu FT-2000 100w amateur transciever (and wide banding is still a no-no)
palstar 3.5kw tuner
Command Technologies HF-2500e 3.5 KW amp
Titanex DLP-22 wire log periodic 3.5-30
Titanex GB 160/10 vertical (balanced line/tuner required)

Motorola CDM 1550 low band business band
Titanex GB 160/10 vertical (balanced line/tuner required)
Motorola CM 300 VHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
Motorola CM 300 UHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna

Yaesu VR-5000 wide band general coverage reciever
Titanex GB 160/10 vertical (balanced line/tuner required)
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
Titanex DLP-22 wire log periodic 3.5-30
Create 5130-2N 100 - 1300 log periodic
KMA 26500 26-500 log periodic antenna

Furuno FS1503EM HF/SSB marine radio
Hy-Gain DX-88 10 - 160 ground mount vertical
Furuno FM3000 VHF marine band mobile radio
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna

ICOM IC-A200 mobile airband radio w/mount & antenna
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna

4 Wineguard HD-8200 TV antenna

5 US Tower 55' HD free standing, complete
5 Yaesu G2800DXA 32 sqft windload rotators

6 Yaesu PF1030A 25 amp 13.8v power supply (to power mobile radios)



*What would you invest in defense? Surface to air missiles (not that 20 mil could buy those) or just a few handgun's and hunting rifles? How much ammo would you stock up?

Perimeter fence/wall/hedgerow w/crash resistant gates
Perimeter drainage/barrier ditch
Defensive landscaping w/dedicated tunnel connected LP/OP/fighting positions
Armory:
6- Barrett M82A1 .50 BMG anti-material rifle
6 - Vigilence VR-1 .338 Lapua sniper rifle
24 – M1A .308 MBR
24 - PTR-91 .308 MBR
24 - Remington 11-87 Sportsman 26” 12 gauge shotgun w/tactical additions
24 - .30 M1 Carbine
24 - Glock 21SF .45 ACP pistol
10 - Ruger 10/22 .22 rifle
10 - Ruger 22/45 .22 pistol
6 - HK-4 convertible .22/.25 ACP/.32 ACP/.380 ACP pistol
4 - Peter Hofer funfling 12ga x 12ga with .375 H&H Mag, over .30-’06, over .22 Hornet
2 - Weatherby Vanguard .460 Weatherby Magnum rifle
4 - Remington 798 in .375 H&H Magnum bolt action hunting rifle
6 - Remington 700 in .30-’06 bolt action hunting rifle
6 - Remington 700 in .308 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 700 in .270 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 700 in .243 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 700 in .223 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 799 in .22 Hornet
10 - Beretta Model 3032 Tomcat .32 ACP pistol
10 - Walther PPK .380 ACP pistol
4 - H&R/NEF Pardner 10 gauge 3 ½” Magnum single shot shotgun w/16 gauge insert
4 - H&R/NEF Pardner 12 gauge 3 ½” Magnum single shot shotgun w/24 & 28 gauge inserts
4 - H&R/NEF Pardner 20 gauge 3” Magnum single shot shotgun w/32 gauge & .410 bore inserts
4 - H&R/NEF Handi-gun .30-’06 w/5 .32 ACP adapters
4 - Perdesoli Mortimer 12 gauge flintlock shotgun
4 - Traditions .50 caliber flintlock rifle
12 - Traditions Trapper .50 caliber flintlock handgun
4 - Perdesoli .32 caliber flintlock rifle


Title II weapons:

6 - AA-12 12 gauge select fire shotgun
12 - 12 gauge double barrel whippet shotgun
12 - G-3/PTR-91 converted select fire MBR
12 - AUG select fire carbine
4 - Ruger 10/22 select fire integral suppressed rifle
4 - Ruger Mark III integral suppressed pistol
6 - Micro-Uzi .45 ACP submachinegun
6 - SMG - .45 ACP Calico clone w/40-round & 85-round helical magazines
6 - Armsport 2900 Trilling three-barrel 12-gauge shotguns cut down to whippets. Sets of 20-ga, .45 Colt, .44 Magnum, .357 Magnum, 9mmP, & .22RF adapters.

Custom weapons:

24 - Custom Main Battle Rifle (7.62x51 MBR): adjustable gas piston select fire action with non-reciprocating ambidextrous charging handle, auto hold open on empty magazine. Ambidextrous bolt release. Ambidextrous safety. Forward assist. M-14 stripper clip guide and M-14 sights. 22” barrel with the tri-compensator of the BM-59/62 with bayonet lug to take a custom 12” OKC-3S style bayonet. A full length barrel-in-line polymer stock with pistol grip and integrated picatinny rails that don’t interfere with the stripper clip feed. Accept a bipod. Use M-14 free fall magazines with bolt hold open followers, and have an ambidextrous magazine release.

12 - Custom ‘Scout’ Rifle: .350 Remington Magnum. Lever action operating a rotary bolt. Integral suppressed barrel. Single round & stripper clip loading. 10-round rotary magazine. Leupold Model 4 CQ/T 1-3 x 14 scope on receiver mounted QD see-through mount. Peep sight. In stock recoil reducers. Sling. Five .380 ACP to .350 Remington Magnum chamber adapters for small game hunting. Custom 12” OKC-3S style bayonet.

4 - .50GI. Custom built on Para-Ordnance P-14 frames. Extra barrel, slide, and magazines for .45ACP for each. One for carry and one spare. Plenty of magazines.

4 - Backup side arm: As above on P-10 Warthog frame. Also with .45ACP conversion.


4 - Multi-caliber 1911 pattern pistol - .50GI/.45 Super/.451 Detonics/.45ACP/.41AE/10mm/.40 S&W/.38 Super/.357 Sig/9mm

25,000 rounds each defensive weapon
2,000 rounds each hunting weapon
Components to reload each round 8 times


*What would you do for entertainment?

Full entertainment system w/collection of CDs & DVDs
Karaoke system w/collection of CD-Gs
Comprehensive library of non-fiction and selected fiction



*How would you conceal the entrance to your shelter from the outside.

Hidden basement tunnel entrance, 2 camouflaged emergency exit/entrances



*How thick would your entrance door be?

3” – 6” vault door from basement to tunnel, another from tunnel to shelter, one on each emergency tunnel



*What supplies would you bring with you?

None. Would be fully stocked (40 people for 10 years)


*What would be your water source?

2 cisterns, 2 wells, pond/lake/spring, storage containers


*How long could you survive given X number of years to live in the shelter?

10 years, minimum


Another thing you might want to address is what SHTF scenario you would build your shelter for, fallout, invasion, zombies, etc...

That’s another list completely
 

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*daydream thread*:rolleyes:
If you had exactly 20 million dollars for the sole purpose of building a fallout shelter, what would your fallout 'dream' shelter be like??

20 million eh? - It would look a lot like this but with more palm trees island 2.jpg


:thumb:

or a 200 metre ex military sub for $500,000 - http://www.maritimesales.com/PI12.htm
 

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JDY, that is a great list. Given the large budget there are a couple of additions I've thought of:

Firearms:
Snapcaps, bore sights, wax bullets and other tools for practice, zeroing and training while stuck in shelter. Archery equipment for post-SHTF possibilities and for indoor practice and entertainment to pass the shelter time (a narrow shooting lane 30'-50' long is all that's needed).
Fitness during shelter stay: Cardio machines that don't use electricity (or powered ones if you want to spend the juice), weight training (wide variety), jump rope, medicine balls, handball, basketball, hackey sack, rock climbing, rope climbing, etc. Enough equipment to provide variety while keeping folks fit and sane during a shelter stay. Add foam swords, pugil-sticks, safety pads and other training aids; they help blow off steam and give a good workout.
Private Areas: For long term sheltering, individuals will need some private time away from the group just to stay sane. If you've got the budget, make some areas for quiet reading, DVD watching, navel contemplating, whatever.
Projects: Nothing fills the endless hours better than having some kind of project for people to do. Sewing, knitting, wood carving, leather work, Make-your-own-battle-harness-kits, electronics build-a-kit, painting, model building, knife-sharpening, knot tying stations, flint knapping, etc.
 

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*Where would you build your fallout 'dream' shelter? Your home state? In the side of a mountain, or underground?

Underground in the Missouri Ozarks or Wyoming Black Hills or Nevada High Desert

16KW 48v input solar/wind power system with 120v/240v inverter system

2 banks of 24 each 2.2v 7,000amp submarine batteries with 152 dry spares & acid to activate them
4 12.5KW generators with 10,000 gallon fuel tanks, spare lubricants & filters, 12 rebuild kits


*How big would your shelter be? Enough for you and your family or enough for your entire neighborhood?

Big enough for my extended family and guests – 2 bedrooms & four 8-person dorm rooms


*Would you rely solely on prepped foods or would you invest in a major Hydroponics farm?

Would have a working farm with food crops and animals
Evergreen tree barrier-strip/wood-lot
20-year full cycle coppicing wood lot
Wild wood lot(s) w/usable wild plants
Wild meadow(s) w/usable wild plants
Wild marsh/bog w/usable wild plants
Domestic stock & wild animal grazing areas w/mobile fences
Purple Martin birdhouse colony on raise/lower poles
Bat house colony on raise/lower poles
Natural habitat located beehives
Heavy duty, multi-fuel, free standing incinerator
Private cemetery w/building
Earth bermed fuel tank bunker
Estate-wide security, fire, & video monitoring system components
Garden, orchard & greenhouse located beehives
Fruit tree orchard
Nut tree orchard
Berry & ground fruit patch
Vegetable garden
Spice & herb garden
Rock & mineral garden
Greenhouse w/fish tanks, mushroom cabinet, & outside rabbit hutches w/worm beds
Irrigation well & pumps
Garden utility shed
3 Woodsheds
Barn
Horse stable w/pasture/corral area
Dog kennel
Equipment shed w/horse drawn equipment
Modern Farming equipment building
General shop building
Ice house w/ice making equipment & storage
Curing/smoking/drying shed




*Would you have any Ham Radio set ups at all?

Communications system – portable, vehicular, base

Portable/handhelds communication devices

Cellular Phone
Oregon Scientific NWS EAS SAME receiver
Motorola 1700 FRS/GMRS radio (pair)

Uniden Bearcat BCD396XT Trunking PS Band scanner

Cobra HH38WXST handheld CB radio

Yaesu VX-8R 6m-70cm Amateur Handheld radio

Motorola HT-1250 low band handheld business band
Motorola CP 200 VHF 4 channel 5 watt handheld business band
Motorola CP 200 UHF 4 channel 4 watt handheld business band

Yaesu FT-817ND (5w/2.5w, int bat/AA bat/ext) Portable HF Amateur radio
Miracle Whip - tunable portable whip (wouldn't even consider wide banding to replace the units above and below lol)

Standard-Horizon HX471S handheld marine band
ICOM A24 handheld air band

Yaesu VR-500 broadband receiver
Miracle Whip - tunable portable whip


Vehicle radios & antennas

Oregon Scientific NWS EAS SAME receiver
Motorola 1700 FRS/GMRS radio (pair)

2 Uniden Bearcat BCD396XT PS Band scanner
2 Bearcat BCD396XT Remote control head
2 Hustler MRM scanner mobile antenna

Yaesu VR-500 broadband receiver
KJ7U KW 6-160 screwdriver antenna
Yaesu ATAS 120 w/mount, triplexer & coax
Hustler MRM scanner mobile antenna

Cobra 148GTL SSB/AM CB radio
Wilson 5000 Roof B mobile CB antenna

Yaesu FT-8900R 10m - 70cm mobile Amateur radio
Diamond 8900A 10m - 70cm w/mount & coax

Yaesu FT-897D (100w/ int bat/ext 12v) mobile Amateur radio (wouldn't wide band this one either!)
KJ7U KW 6-160 screwdriver antenna
Yaesu ATAS 120 w/mount, triplexer & coax

Motorola CDM 1550 low band Business band
Wilson 5000 Roof B mobile CB antenna cut to business band
Motorola CM 300 VHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
gain antenna
Motorola CM 300 UHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
gain antenna

Furuno FS1503EM HF/SSB marine radio
KJ7U KW 6-160 screwdriver antenna
Furuno FM3000 VHF marine radio
Wilson 2m mag mount (cut to Marine band)

ICOM IC-A200 mobile airband radio w/mount & antenna
Wilson 2m mag mount (cut to Air band)



Shelter communications center

XM/Sirius satellite radio w/antenna
AM/FM radio
Direct TV satellite dish (2) each w/2 4-LNB antennas & 8 receivers
Quad view TV flat screen monitor for Weather Ch/Fox News/…/…
Large flat screen monitor for main view TV
Laptop computer w/3 external flat screen monitors

Oregon Scientific NWS EAS SAME receiver
Motorola 1700 FRS/GMRS radio (pair)

2 Uniden Bearcat BCD396XT public service band
2 Bearcat BCD396T Remote control head
2 Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna

Cobra 148GTL SSB/AM CB radio
Solarcon A99 vertical w/ground radials

Yaesu FT-8900R 10m - 70cm Amateur radio
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
Create 5130-2N 100 - 1300 log periodic
KMA 26500 26-500 log periodic antenna

Yaesu FT-2000 100w amateur transciever (and wide banding is still a no-no)
palstar 3.5kw tuner
Command Technologies HF-2500e 3.5 KW amp
Titanex DLP-22 wire log periodic 3.5-30
Titanex GB 160/10 vertical (balanced line/tuner required)

Motorola CDM 1550 low band business band
Titanex GB 160/10 vertical (balanced line/tuner required)
Motorola CM 300 VHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
Motorola CM 300 UHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna

Yaesu VR-5000 wide band general coverage reciever
Titanex GB 160/10 vertical (balanced line/tuner required)
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
Titanex DLP-22 wire log periodic 3.5-30
Create 5130-2N 100 - 1300 log periodic
KMA 26500 26-500 log periodic antenna

Furuno FS1503EM HF/SSB marine radio
Hy-Gain DX-88 10 - 160 ground mount vertical
Furuno FM3000 VHF marine band mobile radio
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna

ICOM IC-A200 mobile airband radio w/mount & antenna
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna

4 Wineguard HD-8200 TV antenna

5 US Tower 55' HD free standing, complete
5 Yaesu G2800DXA 32 sqft windload rotators

6 Yaesu PF1030A 25 amp 13.8v power supply (to power mobile radios)



*What would you invest in defense? Surface to air missiles (not that 20 mil could buy those) or just a few handgun's and hunting rifles? How much ammo would you stock up?

Perimeter fence/wall/hedgerow w/crash resistant gates
Perimeter drainage/barrier ditch
Defensive landscaping w/dedicated tunnel connected LP/OP/fighting positions
Armory:
6- Barrett M82A1 .50 BMG anti-material rifle
6 - Vigilence VR-1 .338 Lapua sniper rifle
24 – M1A .308 MBR
24 - PTR-91 .308 MBR
24 - Remington 11-87 Sportsman 26” 12 gauge shotgun w/tactical additions
24 - .30 M1 Carbine
24 - Glock 21SF .45 ACP pistol
10 - Ruger 10/22 .22 rifle
10 - Ruger 22/45 .22 pistol
6 - HK-4 convertible .22/.25 ACP/.32 ACP/.380 ACP pistol
4 - Peter Hofer funfling 12ga x 12ga with .375 H&H Mag, over .30-’06, over .22 Hornet
2 - Weatherby Vanguard .460 Weatherby Magnum rifle
4 - Remington 798 in .375 H&H Magnum bolt action hunting rifle
6 - Remington 700 in .30-’06 bolt action hunting rifle
6 - Remington 700 in .308 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 700 in .270 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 700 in .243 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 700 in .223 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 799 in .22 Hornet
10 - Beretta Model 3032 Tomcat .32 ACP pistol
10 - Walther PPK .380 ACP pistol
4 - H&R/NEF Pardner 10 gauge 3 ½” Magnum single shot shotgun w/16 gauge insert
4 - H&R/NEF Pardner 12 gauge 3 ½” Magnum single shot shotgun w/24 & 28 gauge inserts
4 - H&R/NEF Pardner 20 gauge 3” Magnum single shot shotgun w/32 gauge & .410 bore inserts
4 - H&R/NEF Handi-gun .30-’06 w/5 .32 ACP adapters
4 - Perdesoli Mortimer 12 gauge flintlock shotgun
4 - Traditions .50 caliber flintlock rifle
12 - Traditions Trapper .50 caliber flintlock handgun
4 - Perdesoli .32 caliber flintlock rifle


Title II weapons:

6 - AA-12 12 gauge select fire shotgun
12 - 12 gauge double barrel whippet shotgun
12 - G-3/PTR-91 converted select fire MBR
12 - AUG select fire carbine
4 - Ruger 10/22 select fire integral suppressed rifle
4 - Ruger Mark III integral suppressed pistol
6 - Micro-Uzi .45 ACP submachinegun
6 - SMG - .45 ACP Calico clone w/40-round & 85-round helical magazines
6 - Armsport 2900 Trilling three-barrel 12-gauge shotguns cut down to whippets. Sets of 20-ga, .45 Colt, .44 Magnum, .357 Magnum, 9mmP, & .22RF adapters.

Custom weapons:

24 - Custom Main Battle Rifle (7.62x51 MBR): adjustable gas piston select fire action with non-reciprocating ambidextrous charging handle, auto hold open on empty magazine. Ambidextrous bolt release. Ambidextrous safety. Forward assist. M-14 stripper clip guide and M-14 sights. 22” barrel with the tri-compensator of the BM-59/62 with bayonet lug to take a custom 12” OKC-3S style bayonet. A full length barrel-in-line polymer stock with pistol grip and integrated picatinny rails that don’t interfere with the stripper clip feed. Accept a bipod. Use M-14 free fall magazines with bolt hold open followers, and have an ambidextrous magazine release.

12 - Custom ‘Scout’ Rifle: .350 Remington Magnum. Lever action operating a rotary bolt. Integral suppressed barrel. Single round & stripper clip loading. 10-round rotary magazine. Leupold Model 4 CQ/T 1-3 x 14 scope on receiver mounted QD see-through mount. Peep sight. In stock recoil reducers. Sling. Five .380 ACP to .350 Remington Magnum chamber adapters for small game hunting. Custom 12” OKC-3S style bayonet.

4 - .50GI. Custom built on Para-Ordnance P-14 frames. Extra barrel, slide, and magazines for .45ACP for each. One for carry and one spare. Plenty of magazines.

4 - Backup side arm: As above on P-10 Warthog frame. Also with .45ACP conversion.


4 - Multi-caliber 1911 pattern pistol - .50GI/.45 Super/.451 Detonics/.45ACP/.41AE/10mm/.40 S&W/.38 Super/.357 Sig/9mm

25,000 rounds each defensive weapon
2,000 rounds each hunting weapon
Components to reload each round 8 times


*What would you do for entertainment?

Full entertainment system w/collection of CDs & DVDs
Karaoke system w/collection of CD-Gs
Comprehensive library of non-fiction and selected fiction



*How would you conceal the entrance to your shelter from the outside.

Hidden basement tunnel entrance, 2 camouflaged emergency exit/entrances



*How thick would your entrance door be?

3” – 6” vault door from basement to tunnel, another from tunnel to shelter, one on each emergency tunnel



*What supplies would you bring with you?

None. Would be fully stocked (40 people for 10 years)


*What would be your water source?

2 cisterns, 2 wells, pond/lake/spring, storage containers


*How long could you survive given X number of years to live in the shelter?

10 years, minimum


Another thing you might want to address is what SHTF scenario you would build your shelter for, fallout, invasion, zombies, etc...

That’s another list completely
LOL!!! Now that's what I call a COMPLETE awnser!

Very nice

I did forget to include a source of power, but it looks like you have that one covered.
 

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*Where would you build your fallout 'dream' shelter? Your home state? In the side of a mountain, or underground?

Underground in the Missouri Ozarks or Wyoming Black Hills or Nevada High Desert

16KW 48v input solar/wind power system with 120v/240v inverter system

2 banks of 24 each 2.2v 7,000amp submarine batteries with 152 dry spares & acid to activate them
4 12.5KW generators with 10,000 gallon fuel tanks, spare lubricants & filters, 12 rebuild kits


*How big would your shelter be? Enough for you and your family or enough for your entire neighborhood?

Big enough for my extended family and guests – 2 bedrooms & four 8-person dorm rooms


*Would you rely solely on prepped foods or would you invest in a major Hydroponics farm?

Would have a working farm with food crops and animals
Evergreen tree barrier-strip/wood-lot
20-year full cycle coppicing wood lot
Wild wood lot(s) w/usable wild plants
Wild meadow(s) w/usable wild plants
Wild marsh/bog w/usable wild plants
Domestic stock & wild animal grazing areas w/mobile fences
Purple Martin birdhouse colony on raise/lower poles
Bat house colony on raise/lower poles
Natural habitat located beehives
Heavy duty, multi-fuel, free standing incinerator
Private cemetery w/building
Earth bermed fuel tank bunker
Estate-wide security, fire, & video monitoring system components
Garden, orchard & greenhouse located beehives
Fruit tree orchard
Nut tree orchard
Berry & ground fruit patch
Vegetable garden
Spice & herb garden
Rock & mineral garden
Greenhouse w/fish tanks, mushroom cabinet, & outside rabbit hutches w/worm beds
Irrigation well & pumps
Garden utility shed
3 Woodsheds
Barn
Horse stable w/pasture/corral area
Dog kennel
Equipment shed w/horse drawn equipment
Modern Farming equipment building
General shop building
Ice house w/ice making equipment & storage
Curing/smoking/drying shed




*Would you have any Ham Radio set ups at all?

Communications system – portable, vehicular, base

Portable/handhelds communication devices

Cellular Phone
Oregon Scientific NWS EAS SAME receiver
Motorola 1700 FRS/GMRS radio (pair)

Uniden Bearcat BCD396XT Trunking PS Band scanner

Cobra HH38WXST handheld CB radio

Yaesu VX-8R 6m-70cm Amateur Handheld radio

Motorola HT-1250 low band handheld business band
Motorola CP 200 VHF 4 channel 5 watt handheld business band
Motorola CP 200 UHF 4 channel 4 watt handheld business band

Yaesu FT-817ND (5w/2.5w, int bat/AA bat/ext) Portable HF Amateur radio
Miracle Whip - tunable portable whip (wouldn't even consider wide banding to replace the units above and below lol)

Standard-Horizon HX471S handheld marine band
ICOM A24 handheld air band

Yaesu VR-500 broadband receiver
Miracle Whip - tunable portable whip


Vehicle radios & antennas

Oregon Scientific NWS EAS SAME receiver
Motorola 1700 FRS/GMRS radio (pair)

2 Uniden Bearcat BCD396XT PS Band scanner
2 Bearcat BCD396XT Remote control head
2 Hustler MRM scanner mobile antenna

Yaesu VR-500 broadband receiver
KJ7U KW 6-160 screwdriver antenna
Yaesu ATAS 120 w/mount, triplexer & coax
Hustler MRM scanner mobile antenna

Cobra 148GTL SSB/AM CB radio
Wilson 5000 Roof B mobile CB antenna

Yaesu FT-8900R 10m - 70cm mobile Amateur radio
Diamond 8900A 10m - 70cm w/mount & coax

Yaesu FT-897D (100w/ int bat/ext 12v) mobile Amateur radio (wouldn't wide band this one either!)
KJ7U KW 6-160 screwdriver antenna
Yaesu ATAS 120 w/mount, triplexer & coax

Motorola CDM 1550 low band Business band
Wilson 5000 Roof B mobile CB antenna cut to business band
Motorola CM 300 VHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
gain antenna
Motorola CM 300 UHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
gain antenna

Furuno FS1503EM HF/SSB marine radio
KJ7U KW 6-160 screwdriver antenna
Furuno FM3000 VHF marine radio
Wilson 2m mag mount (cut to Marine band)

ICOM IC-A200 mobile airband radio w/mount & antenna
Wilson 2m mag mount (cut to Air band)



Shelter communications center

XM/Sirius satellite radio w/antenna
AM/FM radio
Direct TV satellite dish (2) each w/2 4-LNB antennas & 8 receivers
Quad view TV flat screen monitor for Weather Ch/Fox News/…/…
Large flat screen monitor for main view TV
Laptop computer w/3 external flat screen monitors

Oregon Scientific NWS EAS SAME receiver
Motorola 1700 FRS/GMRS radio (pair)

2 Uniden Bearcat BCD396XT public service band
2 Bearcat BCD396T Remote control head
2 Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna

Cobra 148GTL SSB/AM CB radio
Solarcon A99 vertical w/ground radials

Yaesu FT-8900R 10m - 70cm Amateur radio
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
Create 5130-2N 100 - 1300 log periodic
KMA 26500 26-500 log periodic antenna

Yaesu FT-2000 100w amateur transciever (and wide banding is still a no-no)
palstar 3.5kw tuner
Command Technologies HF-2500e 3.5 KW amp
Titanex DLP-22 wire log periodic 3.5-30
Titanex GB 160/10 vertical (balanced line/tuner required)

Motorola CDM 1550 low band business band
Titanex GB 160/10 vertical (balanced line/tuner required)
Motorola CM 300 VHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
Motorola CM 300 UHF 32 channel 45 watt business band
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna

Yaesu VR-5000 wide band general coverage reciever
Titanex GB 160/10 vertical (balanced line/tuner required)
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna
Titanex DLP-22 wire log periodic 3.5-30
Create 5130-2N 100 - 1300 log periodic
KMA 26500 26-500 log periodic antenna

Furuno FS1503EM HF/SSB marine radio
Hy-Gain DX-88 10 - 160 ground mount vertical
Furuno FM3000 VHF marine band mobile radio
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna

ICOM IC-A200 mobile airband radio w/mount & antenna
Diamond D-130J 25 -1300 Mhz discone antenna

4 Wineguard HD-8200 TV antenna

5 US Tower 55' HD free standing, complete
5 Yaesu G2800DXA 32 sqft windload rotators

6 Yaesu PF1030A 25 amp 13.8v power supply (to power mobile radios)



*What would you invest in defense? Surface to air missiles (not that 20 mil could buy those) or just a few handgun's and hunting rifles? How much ammo would you stock up?

Perimeter fence/wall/hedgerow w/crash resistant gates
Perimeter drainage/barrier ditch
Defensive landscaping w/dedicated tunnel connected LP/OP/fighting positions
Armory:
6- Barrett M82A1 .50 BMG anti-material rifle
6 - Vigilence VR-1 .338 Lapua sniper rifle
24 – M1A .308 MBR
24 - PTR-91 .308 MBR
24 - Remington 11-87 Sportsman 26” 12 gauge shotgun w/tactical additions
24 - .30 M1 Carbine
24 - Glock 21SF .45 ACP pistol
10 - Ruger 10/22 .22 rifle
10 - Ruger 22/45 .22 pistol
6 - HK-4 convertible .22/.25 ACP/.32 ACP/.380 ACP pistol
4 - Peter Hofer funfling 12ga x 12ga with .375 H&H Mag, over .30-’06, over .22 Hornet
2 - Weatherby Vanguard .460 Weatherby Magnum rifle
4 - Remington 798 in .375 H&H Magnum bolt action hunting rifle
6 - Remington 700 in .30-’06 bolt action hunting rifle
6 - Remington 700 in .308 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 700 in .270 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 700 in .243 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 700 in .223 bolt action hunting rifle
4 - Remington 799 in .22 Hornet
10 - Beretta Model 3032 Tomcat .32 ACP pistol
10 - Walther PPK .380 ACP pistol
4 - H&R/NEF Pardner 10 gauge 3 ½” Magnum single shot shotgun w/16 gauge insert
4 - H&R/NEF Pardner 12 gauge 3 ½” Magnum single shot shotgun w/24 & 28 gauge inserts
4 - H&R/NEF Pardner 20 gauge 3” Magnum single shot shotgun w/32 gauge & .410 bore inserts
4 - H&R/NEF Handi-gun .30-’06 w/5 .32 ACP adapters
4 - Perdesoli Mortimer 12 gauge flintlock shotgun
4 - Traditions .50 caliber flintlock rifle
12 - Traditions Trapper .50 caliber flintlock handgun
4 - Perdesoli .32 caliber flintlock rifle


Title II weapons:

6 - AA-12 12 gauge select fire shotgun
12 - 12 gauge double barrel whippet shotgun
12 - G-3/PTR-91 converted select fire MBR
12 - AUG select fire carbine
4 - Ruger 10/22 select fire integral suppressed rifle
4 - Ruger Mark III integral suppressed pistol
6 - Micro-Uzi .45 ACP submachinegun
6 - SMG - .45 ACP Calico clone w/40-round & 85-round helical magazines
6 - Armsport 2900 Trilling three-barrel 12-gauge shotguns cut down to whippets. Sets of 20-ga, .45 Colt, .44 Magnum, .357 Magnum, 9mmP, & .22RF adapters.

Custom weapons:

24 - Custom Main Battle Rifle (7.62x51 MBR): adjustable gas piston select fire action with non-reciprocating ambidextrous charging handle, auto hold open on empty magazine. Ambidextrous bolt release. Ambidextrous safety. Forward assist. M-14 stripper clip guide and M-14 sights. 22” barrel with the tri-compensator of the BM-59/62 with bayonet lug to take a custom 12” OKC-3S style bayonet. A full length barrel-in-line polymer stock with pistol grip and integrated picatinny rails that don’t interfere with the stripper clip feed. Accept a bipod. Use M-14 free fall magazines with bolt hold open followers, and have an ambidextrous magazine release.

12 - Custom ‘Scout’ Rifle: .350 Remington Magnum. Lever action operating a rotary bolt. Integral suppressed barrel. Single round & stripper clip loading. 10-round rotary magazine. Leupold Model 4 CQ/T 1-3 x 14 scope on receiver mounted QD see-through mount. Peep sight. In stock recoil reducers. Sling. Five .380 ACP to .350 Remington Magnum chamber adapters for small game hunting. Custom 12” OKC-3S style bayonet.

4 - .50GI. Custom built on Para-Ordnance P-14 frames. Extra barrel, slide, and magazines for .45ACP for each. One for carry and one spare. Plenty of magazines.

4 - Backup side arm: As above on P-10 Warthog frame. Also with .45ACP conversion.


4 - Multi-caliber 1911 pattern pistol - .50GI/.45 Super/.451 Detonics/.45ACP/.41AE/10mm/.40 S&W/.38 Super/.357 Sig/9mm

25,000 rounds each defensive weapon
2,000 rounds each hunting weapon
Components to reload each round 8 times


*What would you do for entertainment?

Full entertainment system w/collection of CDs & DVDs
Karaoke system w/collection of CD-Gs
Comprehensive library of non-fiction and selected fiction



*How would you conceal the entrance to your shelter from the outside.

Hidden basement tunnel entrance, 2 camouflaged emergency exit/entrances



*How thick would your entrance door be?

3” – 6” vault door from basement to tunnel, another from tunnel to shelter, one on each emergency tunnel



*What supplies would you bring with you?

None. Would be fully stocked (40 people for 10 years)


*What would be your water source?

2 cisterns, 2 wells, pond/lake/spring, storage containers


*How long could you survive given X number of years to live in the shelter?

10 years, minimum


Another thing you might want to address is what SHTF scenario you would build your shelter for, fallout, invasion, zombies, etc...

That’s another list completely
This is a VERY thought out and thorough list,but the property already exists in the state of NY at a converted missile base that is now a house and THE most secure underground building the govt could build in 1958 - yes with blast doors etc.Add the above to that structure [ yes its for sale ] and your home.
 

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This is a VERY thought out and thorough list,but the property already exists in the state of NY at a converted missile base that is now a house and THE most secure underground building the govt could build in 1958 - yes with blast doors etc.Add the above to that structure [ yes its for sale ] and your home.
True... but everybody knows that the silo is there... and retrofitted... in a SHTF... I'm thinking that place will get visitors... lots of em... like ants...
 
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