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Go Idaho.... :thumb:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100317/ap_on_go_co/us_health_overhaul_states

Idaho first to sign law aimed at health care plan

BOISE, Idaho – Idaho took the lead in a growing, nationwide fight against health care overhaul Wednesday when its governor became the first to sign a measure requiring the state attorney general to sue the federal government if residents are forced to buy health insurance.

Similar legislation is pending in 37 other states.

Constitutional law experts say the movement is mostly symbolic because federal laws supersede those of the states.

But the state measures reflect a growing frustration with President President Barack Obama's health care overhaul. The proposal would cover some 30 million uninsured people, end insurance practices such as denying coverage to those with pre-existing conditions, require almost all Americans to get coverage by law, and try to slow the cost of medical care nationwide.
 

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I love my state...not too crazy about the snow, but for today, I love my state. As I posted on another thread, now, at least this crap will be tied up for a while and I won't have to pay the mandate, or the fines or penalties til the Supreme Court rules on it. And given how Obama spoke about them at the SOTUA, what are the odds on another 5-4 split, Conservative judges in the majority? Nyah, nyah, nyah. Childish, for sure, but I am feelin' GOOD!
 

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Constitutional law experts say the movement is mostly symbolic because federal laws supersede those of the states.
If 38 states are passing this legislation (Idaho + 37 others), then they have a 3/4 majority. The Constitution states:

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.
It takes 2/3 of States to call a Constitutional Convention. It takes 3/4 to ratify an amendment.

38/50 is 76% of states, enough to ratify a Constitutional Amendment. How about the States exert their power and take control back. Hold a Constitutional Convention and set Congress straight.
 

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I'd be careful about a Constitutional Convention. What else could they tinker with while they have the patient open? Second Amendment, more power to the gooberment, for a politician it coul be too risky.

California Attornrey General Jerry Brown ran for President in the 80's and wanted that. Reagan tore him up on it.
 

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I'd be careful about a Constitutional Convention. What else could they tinker with while they have the patient open? Second Amendment, more power to the gooberment, for a politician it coul be too risky.

California Attornrey General Jerry Brown ran for President in the 80's and wanted that. Reagan tore him up on it.
With the number of states that are passing 10th Amendment Firearms Freedom Acts, I doubt 3/4 of the states would do anything to change the Constitution that would hurt our gun rights. ;)
 

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See now this is something that I like but at the same time I'm pulling my hair out. I've got another thread going in the politics section about my BS insurance company screwing me and my coworkers. And I live almost literally a stones throw away from the Idaho border, we spend more money in Sandpoint buying groceries and stuff than we do here in Montana.
 

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I agree, but once it's open and the wheeling and dealing start, I hate to see what was up for sale
Can't be any worse than Congress. At least our State Legislatures still live in their own States. Congress is basically just a bunch of DC residents at this point.

Congress has sold us down the river time and again. State Reps might actually be able to stop some of the madness.
 

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I'd be careful about a Constitutional Convention. What else could they tinker with while they have the patient open? Second Amendment, more power to the gooberment, for a politician it coul be too risky.

California Attornrey General Jerry Brown ran for President in the 80's and wanted that. Reagan tore him up on it.
Wise comment, SgtBooker44... I believe it was in the Mathew Bracken novels where the US went to hell in a handbasket, with the full swing to socialism enabled by a Constitutional Convention run amuck...

The most evil part of some of the proposed health care reform packages include provisions that would not allow the House and/or Senate repeal the legislation once enacted. That has to be the most unconstituional thing the PRO (Pelosi, Reid, Obama) Gang has done yet! :(
 
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