Wife and I went to a pawn shop and spotted 2 Remington VTR rifles. I nabbed the .308 rifle for $600.00. It has been shot just a little bit, maybe 50 rounds. It is in immaculate condition. I left the .223 version behind for somebody else to buy. It came with a 3 by 9 Hawke scope mounted on it. Because of Illinois' laws I can't pick it up for a few days. Here they have a "cooling off" period of like 3 days. You buy the rifle on the 1st or whatever and on the 4th you can pick it up. I am looking forward to testing the rifle out. Can't wait.