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If TEOTWAWKI happens, how do you all want to survive?
I mean: You can only stock so much food, supplies. Then you have to grow / hunt what you need too eat. Everybody can´t do that, some will have to manufacture things to trade or sell. Where will you live?

My Question is: How do you plan to survive and make a living i the long run of TEOTWAWKI?

My favorite tvshow is by far JERICHO and it has made me think about these things.
 

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Well, I can:

Hunt and fish
Grow vegetables and potatoes
raise chickens and get eggs
Good trading skills

However you would have to be able to live in a spot that permitts you to do these things.

I think it would be good to have a small cottage in the fores by a lake before TEOTWAKI to retreat to when TSHTF.
 

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Well, I can:

Hunt and fish
Grow vegetables and potatoes
raise chickens and get eggs
Good trading skills

However you would have to be able to live in a spot that permitts you to do these things.

I think it would be good to have a small cottage in the fores by a lake before TEOTWAKI to retreat to when TSHTF.
Square foot gardening.

Chickens don't take much space.

Grow potatoes in a stack of old tires etc...
 

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Which, of the thousands of potential scenarios requiring us to dip into our preparedness, do you expect to happen?

Because how I plan to make a living depends on which of those thousands of scenarios actually occurs.
 

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how I plan to make a living depends on which of those thousands of scenarios actually occurs.
Yeah, it'll vary according to what happens.

I'm planning on surviving in the suburbs because I'm not physically very mobile and the suburbs is where I'm stuck for financial reasons.

I expect my neighborhood will be mostly emptied of people because its a dry environment with no apparent sources of water and no people that I know of who stockpile water. There's a couple of wells within a three miles radius but unless you've looked up their locations on the internet in advance, you'd probably thirst to death before finding them. The closest to me is on the suburb's airport property and they apparently don't actually use the well for anything. I doubt if many of the people even working at the airport know its there.

If the area is mostly empty of people, I know a couple of suburban "farms" nearby that have horses, cows, goats, and probably other smaller farm animals. I'm likely to find one or more of those farms abandoned along with the abandoned animals. There's a kennel next to one particular place where I'm sure there'll be abandoned or dead animals plus animal care products. Its not practical to own farm animals on a small lot at the moment due to city ordinances.

The houses in my neighborhood have adjoining wooden fences. I could in theory pen small animals in one yard and garden in my yard and other nearby yards.

If the area is completely empty of people, as in I'm the last person on earth, there's a new combination courthouse/police station/jail with a large pond which the city has built a distance away. There's plenty of open grounds which they have sodded but might be good for planting. I have no idea why a courthouse would need five acres of grounds but its there, already cleared, and they brought in good topsoil so their grass would look nice. Sometimes governments make no sense to me.

If there's a zombie apocalypse, I'd stay across the street from the courthouse/police station/jail in a newly-built warehouse. It has sturdy, high chainlink fencing around it. I believe they make or store plastic cups. Anyway, they tend to have trailers for 18 wheelers in the parking lot. The building has loading docks and doors for 18 wheelers and no windows on the ground floor. I couldn't think of any improvised facility more ideal for lying low from zombies. When there's a chance I could raid the abandoned police station for weapons.


Which, of the thousands of potential scenarios requiring us to dip into our preparedness, do you expect to happen?
Almost all the scenarios outside of small local disasters will cause an economic collapse and a collapse of the infrastructure needed to make living in a city viable. When living in a city is no longer possible, people are going to panic, riot, and either die or leave the cities and spread like a human plague across the countryside. Then the vast majority of the survivors of the collapse of the cities will die in the countryside.

Five years after the collapse of the cities, I'd be surprised if 7 out of 100 people were still alive even in the more pleasant areas of the country. For relatively dry, arid places like my home, I'd be shocked if the survival rate were a tenth of that (so for a town of 100,000 for example, maybe 700 survivors? Sounds about too high but perhaps possible.)
 

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My Question is: How do you plan to survive and make a living i the long run of TEOTWAWKI?
I don't know :confused:

My plans can get me and my group to somewhere around two years with the basics if we're lucky. I have lots of guesses and big fat maybe's....but it's impossible to plan for the complete unknown.

Watching these survial TV shows and expecting reality is like watching Star Trek and then start to think you can fly in outer space.
 

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Wow, talk about thread resurrection. This one is almost a record.
Is it just my imagination or are old threads coming back from the dead more often lately?

And how is this happening? Are people using the search function and not paying attention to the dates, or deliberately heading to the last pages and seeing what they can resurrect?
 

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Is it just my imagination or are old threads coming back from the dead more often lately?

And how is this happening? Are people using the search function and not paying attention to the dates, or deliberately heading to the last pages and seeing what they can resurrect?
Probably both.

I find necrothreads irritating but they occasionally stir up some good new conversation.
 

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Is it just my imagination or are old threads coming back from the dead more often lately?

And how is this happening? Are people using the search function and not paying attention to the dates, or deliberately heading to the last pages and seeing what they can resurrect?
Generally, when you see this happen and the poster is new with very little to zero post count, it is a bot building posts for eventual spam purpose. However this one by Sunstone seems to make a valid statement concerning the subject matter. Though it is a little off.

Time will tell if Sunstone is a real poster or a sprite.
 

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Is it just my imagination or are old threads coming back from the dead more often lately?

And how is this happening? Are people using the search function and not paying attention to the dates, or deliberately heading to the last pages and seeing what they can resurrect?
Probably cause a lot of people complain when someone starts a new thread, I dont know how many times Ive read "use the search button" or "this has been discussed many times".
 

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Is it just my imagination or are old threads coming back from the dead more often lately?

And how is this happening? Are people using the search function and not paying attention to the dates, or deliberately heading to the last pages and seeing what they can resurrect?
Because a few members on here jump on anyone that posts a new thread. Some members like to dig years old threads up to rub a noobs nose in the fact that every question has already been asked.

Maybe it's me but I would rather see fresh threads with new info rather than a five year old zombie thread.
 

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I just brought up this subject in the chat rooms today. I had noticed that after being a member for about 14 months, I seemed to have hit "the loop." That is to say, the same topics started coming up again.

It seems to be counterproductive to (mildly) berate the postings of newcomers because they didn't search a topic only to come up with three year old results. Newbies come here and they are excited and filled with questions and ideas.

MikeK, I know you are a mod and a venerable warhorse on all topics of survival, but to tamp down the burgeoning interests of those new to prepping seems like it might scare those interested away.

I get being "bored" of the same old topics, but at the end of the day, there is only a finite amount of subjects that one can bring up. Especially someone new to the forum.

Not a sermon, just a thought....

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