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Posted the link for those who cant beleive anything without a link. A Classic case of "Dont repress us! While we stand on the necks of others."

We should mirror Mexico's Immigration laws, then they'd have nothing to complain about....


http://article.nationalreview.com/43...ichelle-malkin

April 28, 2010 12:00 A.M.

How Mexico Treats Illegal Aliens

Their practices are discriminatory, corrupt, and abusive.

Mexican president Felipe Calderón has accused Arizona of opening the door “to intolerance, hate, discrimination, and abuse in law enforcement.” But Arizona has nothing on Mexico when it comes to cracking down on illegal aliens. While open-borders activists decry the new enforcement measures signed into law in “Nazi-zona” last week, they remain deaf, dumb, or willfully blind to the unapologetically restrictionist policies of our neighbors to the south.

The Arizona law bans sanctuary cities that refuse to enforce immigration laws, stiffens penalties against illegal-alien day laborers and their employers, makes it a misdemeanor for immigrants to fail to complete and carry an alien-registration document, and allows the police to arrest immigrants unable to show documents proving they are in the U.S. legally. If those rules constitute the racist, fascist, xenophobic, inhumane regime that the National Council of La Raza, Al Sharpton, Catholic bishops, and their grievance-mongering followers claim, then what about these regulations and restrictions imposed on foreigners?

The Mexican government will bar foreigners if they upset “the equilibrium of the national demographics.” How’s that for racial and ethnic profiling?

If outsiders do not enhance the country’s “economic or national interests” or are “not found to be physically or mentally healthy,” they are not welcome. Neither are those who show “contempt against national sovereignty or security.” They must not be economic burdens on society and must have clean criminal histories. Those seeking to obtain Mexican citizenship must show a birth certificate, provide a bank statement proving economic independence, pass an exam, and prove they can provide their own health care.

Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years’ imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years’ imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama’s illegal-alien aunt — a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim).

Law-enforcement officials at all levels — by national mandate — must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal-alien arrests and deportations. The Mexican military is also required to assist in immigration-enforcement operations. Native-born Mexicans are empowered to make citizens’ arrests of illegal aliens and turn them in to authorities.

Ready to show your papers? Mexico’s National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals. A National Population Registry tracks and verifies the identity of every member of the population, who must carry a citizens’ identity card. Visitors who do not possess proper documents and identification are subject to arrest as illegal aliens.

All of these provisions are enshrined in Mexico’s Ley General de Población (General Law of the Population) and were spotlighted in a 2006 research paper published by the Washington, D.C.–based Center for Security Policy. There’s been no public clamor for “comprehensive immigration reform” in Mexico, however, because pro-illegal-alien speech by outsiders is prohibited.

Consider: Open-borders protesters marched freely at the Capitol building in Arizona, comparing Republican governor Jan Brewer to Hitler, waving Mexican flags, advocating that demonstrators “smash the state,” and holding signs that proclaimed “No human is illegal” and “We have rights.”
 

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Posted the link for those who cant beleive anything without a link. A Classic case of "Dont repress us! While we stand on the necks of others."

We should mirror Mexico's Immigration laws, then they'd have nothing to complain about....


http://article.nationalreview.com/43...ichelle-malkin

April 28, 2010 12:00 A.M.

How Mexico Treats Illegal Aliens

Their practices are discriminatory, corrupt, and abusive.

Mexican president Felipe Calderón has accused Arizona of opening the door “to intolerance, hate, discrimination, and abuse in law enforcement.” But Arizona has nothing on Mexico when it comes to cracking down on illegal aliens. While open-borders activists decry the new enforcement measures signed into law in “Nazi-zona” last week, they remain deaf, dumb, or willfully blind to the unapologetically restrictionist policies of our neighbors to the south.

The Arizona law bans sanctuary cities that refuse to enforce immigration laws, stiffens penalties against illegal-alien day laborers and their employers, makes it a misdemeanor for immigrants to fail to complete and carry an alien-registration document, and allows the police to arrest immigrants unable to show documents proving they are in the U.S. legally. If those rules constitute the racist, fascist, xenophobic, inhumane regime that the National Council of La Raza, Al Sharpton, Catholic bishops, and their grievance-mongering followers claim, then what about these regulations and restrictions imposed on foreigners?

The Mexican government will bar foreigners if they upset “the equilibrium of the national demographics.” How’s that for racial and ethnic profiling?

If outsiders do not enhance the country’s “economic or national interests” or are “not found to be physically or mentally healthy,” they are not welcome. Neither are those who show “contempt against national sovereignty or security.” They must not be economic burdens on society and must have clean criminal histories. Those seeking to obtain Mexican citizenship must show a birth certificate, provide a bank statement proving economic independence, pass an exam, and prove they can provide their own health care.

Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years’ imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years’ imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama’s illegal-alien aunt — a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim).

Law-enforcement officials at all levels — by national mandate — must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal-alien arrests and deportations. The Mexican military is also required to assist in immigration-enforcement operations. Native-born Mexicans are empowered to make citizens’ arrests of illegal aliens and turn them in to authorities.

Ready to show your papers? Mexico’s National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals. A National Population Registry tracks and verifies the identity of every member of the population, who must carry a citizens’ identity card. Visitors who do not possess proper documents and identification are subject to arrest as illegal aliens.

All of these provisions are enshrined in Mexico’s Ley General de Población (General Law of the Population) and were spotlighted in a 2006 research paper published by the Washington, D.C.–based Center for Security Policy. There’s been no public clamor for “comprehensive immigration reform” in Mexico, however, because pro-illegal-alien speech by outsiders is prohibited.

Consider: Open-borders protesters marched freely at the Capitol building in Arizona, comparing Republican governor Jan Brewer to Hitler, waving Mexican flags, advocating that demonstrators “smash the state,” and holding signs that proclaimed “No human is illegal” and “We have rights.”
Wind, what you posted here is the truth. I am part Argentine, speak Spanish, and have 2 good friends that are Mexicans living in Mexico. I talked to Carlos,recently, one of my friends in Mexico, about this very subject. He's well educated, has a comparatively good job living in Mexicali,Baja CA. If one of we norte Americanos gets sick in Mexico, we are basically up crap creek without the paddle, unless we have sufficient funds to get treatment.

The only way one of us could get by as an illegal in Mexico, is to have enough money to pay off the authorities, as they discover the illegality of the norte Americano. And as we all know, MONEY TALKS down there. You should see how black folks are regarded down there, if one of their daughters marry a black man, they almost disown her. So it is correct to say that Mexico can be very discriminatory as well as unfair AND corrupt. Calderon only sees things as he wants to see them. After all, Mexico encourages their poor to come here, as they are a burden to them, and they cannot exact money from them. Interestingly, their wealthy ARE NOT encouraged to emigrate to the United States. excellent post, Wind!
 

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they even have a government department dedicated to helping people across- Grupo Beta

 

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illegials in Mexico don't make a huge contribution to the Mexican economy, they do to ours. you think we are in a depression/recession now get rid of all the cheap labor and see where we will be. all those millions unemployed in the USA have neither the skills or desire to do the work Mexicans do and they have to desire to learn those skills. over the last 20 years we have shifted to a mentality that manual labor is for the lower species , ie. not white and the superiour species, ie, white are superiour through education and right of privilage. the sowing is done next comes the reaping.
 

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illegials in Mexico don't make a huge contribution to the Mexican economy, they do to ours. you think we are in a depression/recession now get rid of all the cheap labor and see where we will be. all those millions unemployed in the USA have neither the skills or desire to do the work Mexicans do and they have to desire to learn those skills. over the last 20 years we have shifted to a mentality that manual labor is for the lower species , ie. not white and the superiour species, ie, white are superiour through education and right of privilage. the sowing is done next comes the reaping.
Okay what is the "HUGE contribution" to our economy?

10%?, 15%?, 25%?, 30%?

Hers a question for you, the auto industry, I'm talking the entire auto industry and those companies that feed it, amounts to how much of the US economy?

Give up?

A great big whopping 2%! Thats right 2% of the entire United States economy.

Now are you really trying to ascert that 10 million illegal aliens working sub-minimum wage jobs, part time, tax free, sending most of the money over the border back to Mexico, is generating more than the entire auto industry, including the tax paying UAW?

You are sadly misinformed.

"all those millions unemployed in the USA have neither the skills or desire to do the work Mexicans do and they have to desire to learn those skills."

So what are these skills these highly trained illegal aliens have that Americans dont have and dont want to learn?

You do realise most of the work these illegals are doing is day labor, right?

Do you know what that means?

Let me explain. Day labor is done on a day to day basis, not a job done during the day.

The vast majority of day labor is in the construction field, sheet rock etc.

They are hired until the job is done and paid on a daily basis, usally in cash or personal check.

WITHOUT filing w-9 or w-2. I.e. NO TAXES, the money is free and clear.

No most of these "skills" are learned by most boys in the US when they take a shop class in high school.

So unless there is a pack of highly trained illegal alien NASA rocket scientists that I'm not aware of, most of these skills can be learned within an afternoon on the job site. Which most illegal aliens do, learn on the job site.

What you think they had Shop classes in Mexico?

Again you are mis-informed.

"over the last 20 years we have shifted to a mentality that manual labor is for the lower species"

I have half a dozen friends in the construction trades, you come say that to their faces, we'll see how "lower species" they get on your A**.


"ie, white are superiour through education and right of privilage. the sowing is done next comes the reaping."

That's a very racist thing to say, and very judgemental.

Your whole idea that whites dont want to work because you think we are elitists and racially superior is wrong.

I know guys who would mow lawns for work, clean houses, pick fruit, dig ditches and guess what...THEY ARE WHITE.

In case you havent realized, people have been out of work for over two years. Many have given up even looking for a job.

There is no such thing has a "White job" a "Black job" or a "Latin job".

And your assertion that there is and whites will somehow pay for it in the future shows just how flawed, and out of touch with the reality of the situation you really are.

There is always a liberal somewhere whos wants to play the race card.

Disgusting.

Here endeth the lesson!
 

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illegials in Mexico don't make a huge contribution to the Mexican economy, they do to ours. you think we are in a depression/recession now get rid of all the cheap labor and see where we will be. all those millions unemployed in the USA have neither the skills or desire to do the work Mexicans do and they have to desire to learn those skills. over the last 20 years we have shifted to a mentality that manual labor is for the lower species , ie. not white and the superiour species, ie, white are superiour through education and right of privilage. the sowing is done next comes the reaping.
So, what ever contribution they make to our country makes them being here illegally OK?

all those millions unemployed in the USA have neither the skills or desire to do the work Mexicans do and they have to desire to learn those skills.
You mean like those listed below?

http://www.azfamily.com/news/Hundre...-positions-at-Pros-Ranch-Market-91880224.html

PHOENIX -- Job hunters turned out in the hundreds to fill recently-vacant positions at Pro's Ranch Market stores, where a federal audit led to the firing of some 300 workers.

Roxanne Nieves, one of the many that came out in search of a job, said she came to apply after she heard about the layoffs.

"We heard they are firing a lot of illegal people, so we're here to apply," she said.

Nonetheless, she and many others felt guilty about taking the jobs of the people who had just been fired.

"To me, it's pretty hard to see everybody losing jobs," one job hunter said.

About 300 of the 1,500 total employees at the six Phoenix supermarkets were let go this week after an Immigration and Customs Enforcement audit found them to be working illegally.

Attorney Julie Pace said the company has I-9 forms on everyone and uses E-Verify to check employees' eligibility to work, but that is not always enough.

"The company wouldn't know if someone is using counterfeit documents," Pace said.

Pace also called on the federal government to help companies comply with hiring laws.

"We need an easy program for employers to use to hire people -- safe, easy, quick -- so we don't have to deal with ICE audits," she said.

Pro's Ranch Market is among some 1,600 U.S. businesses, including 84 in Arizona, that have undergone ICE audits since July 2009.

ICE says the goal is to reduce demand for illegal employment and protect job opportunities for the nation's lawful workforce.

over the last 20 years we have shifted to a mentality that manual labor is for the lower species , ie. not white and the superiour species, ie, white are superiour through education and right of privilage. the sowing is done next comes the reaping.
I disagree with this ^. The only people I know that think like this, are Ivy League College educated progressives, who know / have all of the right answers, for the rest of us troglodyte, knuckle dragging yahoos.

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Its not just manual labor they are doing. They do skilled labor too. Very poorly in fact. I could take you to a school in the north part of Peoria Az and show you the **** poor quality job they did. The real kicker is that they had whites doing the hard labor. I see them driving truck in construction. Last year I was making $20 an hour driving belly dumps and end dumps. I went back to work for the same company under another name and the wages were $12 an hour. I see them doing form setting, Carpentry, Operating heavy equipment, ect. So dont give me this bull crap that they only do the jobs that we wont do.
 

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illegials in Mexico don't make a huge contribution to the Mexican economy, they do to ours. you think we are in a depression/recession now get rid of all the cheap labor and see where we will be. all those millions unemployed in the USA have neither the skills or desire to do the work Mexicans do and they have to desire to learn those skills. over the last 20 years we have shifted to a mentality that manual labor is for the lower species , ie. not white and the superiour species, ie, white are superiour through education and right of privilage. the sowing is done next comes the reaping.

the only contributions they have made lately over the years has been a debt in the tune of several hundred billion dollars of debt that american tax payers are forced to apy for...

and their lack of skills is not something that is of concern ..or ought not to be for americans... our problem is what to do with them...
 

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illegials in Mexico don't make a huge contribution to the Mexican economy, they do to ours. you think we are in a depression/recession now get rid of all the cheap labor and see where we will be. all those millions unemployed in the USA have neither the skills or desire to do the work Mexicans do and they have to desire to learn those skills. over the last 20 years we have shifted to a mentality that manual labor is for the lower species , ie. not white and the superiour species, ie, white are superiour through education and right of privilage. the sowing is done next comes the reaping.
According to economists, illegal mexicans contribute a NET LOSS to the United States, after getting free public services, medical, food stamps; not paying taxes for any of it. Also sending something like $15 billion of untaxed money back to Mexico per year.
 

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I think we should trade a few hard working illeagals for a bunch of welfare sucking, couch humping, trash (citizens) we have, expecting the rest of us to provide them a living.

Sorry for the rant. Seems to get worse around Christmas.
 

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illegials in Mexico don't make a huge contribution to the Mexican economy, they do to ours. you think we are in a depression/recession now get rid of all the cheap labor and see where we will be. all those millions unemployed in the USA have neither the skills or desire to do the work Mexicans do and they have to desire to learn those skills. over the last 20 years we have shifted to a mentality that manual labor is for the lower species , ie. not white and the superiour species, ie, white are superiour through education and right of privilage. the sowing is done next comes the reaping.
I have done TONS of manual labor side by side with illegals. If you're saying there are no carpenters, block masons, painters etc. who are American you are sadly mistaken.

If you are saying Americans can't figgure out how to swing a sledge hammer or dig with a shovel well.... it only took me a couple of months to figgure out how those tools were used so a lesser man might figgure it out in 5 or 6 months.
 

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The Mexican government will bar foreigners if they upset “the equilibrium of the national demographics.” How’s that for racial and ethnic profiling?

If outsiders do not enhance the country’s “economic or national interests” or are “not found to be physically or mentally healthy,” they are not welcome. Neither are those who show “contempt against national sovereignty or security.” They must not be economic burdens on society and must have clean criminal histories. Those seeking to obtain Mexican citizenship must show a birth certificate, provide a bank statement proving economic independence, pass an exam, and prove they can provide their own health care.

Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years’ imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years’ imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama’s illegal-alien aunt — a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim).

Law-enforcement officials at all levels — by national mandate — must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal-alien arrests and deportations. The Mexican military is also required to assist in immigration-enforcement operations. Native-born Mexicans are empowered to make citizens’ arrests of illegal aliens and turn them in to authorities.

Ready to show your papers? Mexico’s National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals. A National Population Registry tracks and verifies the identity of every member of the population, who must carry a citizens’ identity card. Visitors who do not possess proper documents and identification are subject to arrest as illegal aliens.

All of these provisions are enshrined in Mexico’s Ley General de Población (General Law of the Population) and were spotlighted in a 2006 research paper published by the Washington, D.C.–based Center for Security Policy. There’s been no public clamor for “comprehensive immigration reform” in Mexico, however, because pro-illegal-alien speech by outsiders is prohibited.
Maybe that's why Mexico is such a horrible, godforsaken ****hole. :)

 
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