homeless and the virus
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I've give that questions some thought - The largest CROWD of homeless people I see are people standing in the chow line at night. The dining room holds about 250 at one time. The dorms half that, although many try to avoid them anyhow because of the bugs. Tulsa's homeless except for the meth kitchens down by the river, don't general sleep in camps.
Maybe that's it?
Maybe that's it?
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They are isolated from the general public and we do our best not to get close to them. They may do better as a group. Time will tell. If they do fall you the virus, avoid hospitals that take them in. Best to avoid hospitals entirely.
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The lack of data regarding the homeless is indeed puzzling. One could argue acquired immunity, or is could be they are infected but the mortality rate simply is not great enough for causing alarm.
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Most cases at the moment are people who visited abroad, or who had direct contact with people who visited abroad. Not really the demographic to have a lot of direct contact with the homeless. That will change as more people get infected. As more get infected, it'll quickly spread to the homeless too, and those aren't known to visit many doctors so it'll stay underreported there too.
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I beg to differ somewhat on that. Have you ever seen the video's of the Open Markets in Wuhan SAY WHAT? They make the Homeless look clean. though they can withstand more than the average American when it comes to germs like the People living in countries with very poor water and living conditions.
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I imagine the biggest problem will be lack of reporting. Many will not seek help because it will put them in an environment where they cannot access heroin or other drug of choice. Others that suffer from mental illness may not perceive the threat. Plus, who is going to go walking through the homeless camps to check on these people?
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Approx 35k in Los Angeles County are homeless, about 24k of them are in the city of Los Angeles.
It will spread very fast in the city. Are there immune systems healthy? Doubt it. Sanitary conditions? Probably as bad as you could imagine.
IMO, they won't do well at all.
It will spread very fast in the city. Are there immune systems healthy? Doubt it. Sanitary conditions? Probably as bad as you could imagine.
IMO, they won't do well at all.
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Sounds like an easy fix to me....or, the next pandemic.
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AS I said elsewhere..
not to be cruel but who cares?
If they get it it is expected
if they do not it is expected
The only time someone pays any attention to the homeless is when they can have something newsworthy come from the event, like the dead raccoon guy in McD's.
When I was working UC I spent a day posing as a homeless person.
Got some dirty clothes, a beat up shopping cart filled with junk and planted myself by a dumpster that had a unique vantage point to a certain operating retail unlicensed pharmaceutical establishment. I had a big bundle of bags and clothes on my lap and using it as a blanket type thing as I ran about 4 hours of video. My paper bag on my "wine" bottle that was filled with cider was very refreshing. When I needed to relieve myself, I got up, walked up the alley a few feet and let er rip. It was very... liberating to be released from the constraints of "civilized society."
NO ONE ever looked at me including the drug dealer's lookouts prowling around every now and then. IT is like becoming invisible. The only people who actually saw me were other bag people. But I showed bad manners and never let them take a hit out of brotherly camaraderie.
not to be cruel but who cares?
If they get it it is expected
if they do not it is expected
The only time someone pays any attention to the homeless is when they can have something newsworthy come from the event, like the dead raccoon guy in McD's.
When I was working UC I spent a day posing as a homeless person.
Got some dirty clothes, a beat up shopping cart filled with junk and planted myself by a dumpster that had a unique vantage point to a certain operating retail unlicensed pharmaceutical establishment. I had a big bundle of bags and clothes on my lap and using it as a blanket type thing as I ran about 4 hours of video. My paper bag on my "wine" bottle that was filled with cider was very refreshing. When I needed to relieve myself, I got up, walked up the alley a few feet and let er rip. It was very... liberating to be released from the constraints of "civilized society."
NO ONE ever looked at me including the drug dealer's lookouts prowling around every now and then. IT is like becoming invisible. The only people who actually saw me were other bag people. But I showed bad manners and never let them take a hit out of brotherly camaraderie.
I've been homeless, but never a drugge or wineo. I know homeless people that work, they just can't make enough money to afford a place to live.
I know some that are incredibly intelligent, some even have a load of money.
They isolate themselves from society because of others that worry them.
Many of the homeless may out live you..
I know some that are incredibly intelligent, some even have a load of money.
They isolate themselves from society because of others that worry them.
Many of the homeless may out live you..
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