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Does anybody have experinces with the S&W M&P .40? I'm in the market for a handgun now and am having alot of dificulty sorting through the bs.

First off i'd like to get a .40, that would cover just about everything. After that a 9mm then a .45.

I guess more importantly, is the s&w m&p .40 reliable enough to be my main hand gun in a B.O. situation?

I owned an XD.45 but sold it last year, it wa ok but way too heavy for ccw and i couldent afford to practice like i'd like to and can with the 9mm and .40.

my top choices right now are the glock 19 for 9mm and the S&W M&P for .40.

or should i just get a .40 and 9mm from glock or S&W? they both fit really well in my hands, havent had a chance to shoot them yet though.

I'm open to any suggestions. i'd like to stay in the $400-$500 range though.
 

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Does anybody have experinces with the S&W M&P .40? I'm in the market for a handgun now and am having alot of dificulty sorting through the bs.

First off i'd like to get a .40, that would cover just about everything. After that a 9mm then a .45.

I guess more importantly, is the s&w m&p .40 reliable enough to be my main hand gun in a B.O. situation?

I owned an XD.45 but sold it last year, it wa ok but way too heavy for ccw and i couldent afford to practice like i'd like to and can with the 9mm and .40.

my top choices right now are the glock 19 for 9mm and the S&W M&P for .40.

or should i just get a .40 and 9mm from glock or S&W? they both fit really well in my hands, havent had a chance to shoot them yet though.

I'm open to any suggestions. i'd like to stay in the $400-$500 range though.
I guess more importantly, is the s&w m&p .40 reliable enough to be my main hand gun in a B.O. situation?

Actually no and this is why.
This is Smith & Wesson's third try at making a poly type gun. First it was the Orig. S&W Sigma and it didnt workout then it was the Smith&Wesson sw99 (Walther p99 clone) and it didnt take off either. They still have the sigma and they have done some mods to it but its still what I would consider an entry level handgun or something to keep in your truck kinda thing.

As far as the S&W M&P handguns go you cant get parts for em you got to send it in and no one knows how long that takes. There a pain to field strip. They feel off balence in your hand.

I WOULD GO WITH GLOCK !

If you want a great gun go with Glock .40 They have been around for awhile. After market and factory parts available. They come in 3 differnt sizes so ccw isnt a problem. They are amazing to shoot. They are battle tested. the list of people that use them is amazing. You cant break this generation of Glock many many many many people have tryed just check you tube. Easy to field strip. Hi cap mags available as well.

In 1990 Glock became the first manufacturer to offer models chambered for the .40 S&W cartridge, the Glock 22 and the Glock 23, beating Smith & Wesson to the marketplace with pistols for their own cartridge.

Heres a small list of smart people that have choose GLOCK.


Afghanistan: Secondary weapons of the Afghan National Police.
Australia: Armament of certain Australian police forces. All Australian police services apart from the South Australian Police and Victoria Police use Glock pistols. A special Glock 17 outfitted with a M1911-style safety was designed specifically for the Tasmania Police.[22] The Western Australia Police have standardised on the Glock 22. Glock 17s are also issued to Australian Customs officers[23] and the Glock 19 is in service with the Royal Australian Air Force.
Austria: P80 standard service pistol.[24]
Belgium: Used by Belgian police.
Brazil: The Federal Police Department issues all agents graduating from the National Police Academy a Glock 17 or Glock 19 or Glock 26 according to the agent's preference.
Canada: Used by various police agencies in cities such as Toronto and Ottawa, as well as the South Coast British Columbia Transportation Authority Police Service.
Ecuador: Issued to all National Police officers, as well as various special police units such as the GOE and GIR.
Finland: Used by Finnish police and border guard.
Fiji: Tactical Response Unit[25]
France: The Glock 17 is used by certain naval and parachute units of the French Army.[26]
Germany: Various special units of the German Federal Police.
Iceland: Icelandic special forces, such as Víkingasveitin and ICRU.
India: Indian Army, special forces and Indian Police.
Indonesia: Used by Indonesian Army Kopassus, the Indonesian Police Force and Detasemen Khusus 88.
Iraq: Iraqi security forces.
Israel: Glock 17s and Glock 19s are standard service pistols in certain Israeli military and paramilitary units (Yamam, Shayetet 13, Shabak, and private security firms) and are popular pistols amongst Israeli citizens for concealed and open carry.
Italy: Glock 17s and Glock 19s are available to Italian special forces such as GIS, NOCS, "Col Moschin" Regiment, COMSUBIN, and to Intelligence and State Security personnel.
Latvia: The Glock 17 is the standard sidearm of the Latvian Military and police.[27]
Lithuania: The Glock 17 is the standard sidearm of the Lithuanian Armed Forces.[28]
Mexico
Malaysia: Mostly used by the Royal Malaysian Navy and Royal Malaysian Police (Pasukan Gerakan Khas).
The Netherlands: Standard service pistol of the Military of the Netherlands (Glock 17)[29] and of the SWAT teams of the Dutch police (Glock 17). [30]
New Zealand: The New Zealand Police carry the Glock 17 in situations where weapons are issued.
Norway: In 1988 the Glock 17 was adopted as the Norwegian Army standard sidearm.
Pakistan: Some units of Pakistan Army and Pakistan Air Force use the Glock 17 and its variants as a sidearm. e.g. the PROVOST Units and Military Police.
Philippines: Used by the Philippine National Police and the National Bureau of Investigation.
Poland: Approx. 4,800 Glock 19 pistols acquired for the Polish police. The contract was awarded in 2007 and first deliveries were scheduled for October that same year.[31]
Romania: Used by troops on deployment and several special operations units.
Slovenia
Spain: The Guardia Civil's UEI use the Glock 17.
Sri Lanka: Sri Lanka Police.
South Korea: Glock 19 used by South Korean Army and Blue House Securities.
Sweden: The Swedish Armed Forces use two 9 mm variants of the Glock – the Glock 17 and compact Glock 19, known locally as the Pistol 88 and Pistol 88B respectively.[32][33] The Swedish Customs Service as well as the Swedish Coast Guard also use Glock pistols as service weapons.[34]
United Kingdom: Users include the Specialist Firearms Command of the London Metropolitan Police Service and the Police Service of Northern Ireland.
United States: The U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation issues all agents graduating from the FBI Academy a Glock 22 or Glock 23 according to the agent's preference,[35] although the Glock 17 may be issued for FBI agents tasked with overseas assignments (because of the worldwide availability of the 9x19mm round). .40 caliber Glock pistols are issued to all new agents of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration,[36] and the Glock 19 remains the standard issue of the US E.P.A. Criminal Investigation Division. The New York City Police Department issues the Glock 19 for uniform carry as well as the Glock 26 for concealed carry to many of its officers.


The popularity of Glock pistols can be attributed to a number of factors. They are said to be very reliable, being able to function under extreme conditions and to fire a wide range of ammunition types. The simplicity of the Glock design contributes to this reliability, as it contains a relatively small number of components (nearly half as many as the typical handgun) making maintenance and repair easy. Disassembly for the Glock pistol is simple, making it easy to detail strip without expensive tools.[37] The polymer frame makes them lighter than typical steel or aluminum-framed pistols, which is attractive for police officers and ordinary citizens who carry firearms for extended periods of time.
 

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Buy the Glock. Look at what guns are authorized by police departments for carry weapons. In case of large department like Dallas Tx they have 3 makes Sig is main issue weapon, but also Glock and Baretta. SMith is not in the mix here or at Dept of Public Safety. I prefer the Sig but that is because it fits me best and it is my choice not yours. the smith is a knock off of the Glock. Stick with Glock on both your 9MM and .40 cal. I have owned both and they are great weapons. I am sure DocYOung will be happy.

I recommend the glock since you said you are going with the model 19 for your 9MM. Very good gun. Best wishes.
 

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yeah, .45 will be my last gun in the distant future...like i said i had teh XD in .45 and it was not my ideal caliber for a carry or shtf gun. imo its too big, sure it'll take ya down with one shot, but i look at it as a whole.

What caliber should be first, .40 or 9mm? i'm sure eather will do right now but if the world were to colapse 5 min from now, what would you grab?

the .40, from my experiences is the perfect combonation of the 9mm and .45, so naturally it should be the first, followed by a smaller, more compace 9mm for excreme cqb, ccw, and/or backup.
 

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Practice is what makes you a good shot. Tactics, to include HOW you use your gun, is what lets you win the day. If you go Glock, you can get 20 round extended magazines for your 9 mm pistols. If you go with Sherer magazines you can have magazines that hold 33 rounds available. The 9 mm pistol, when used properly in the hands of a very practiced shooter, is a top-of-the-line firearm. I'd definitely go Glock and I would go with either the 9 mm variant or the .45 version.
 

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why not .40?

I have shot alot of different pistols, among my most favorite is the FN 5.7. Unfortanatly its about $1000 and ammo is hard to come by. I love all calibers. They all have there place, for me the .45 is for the home, .40 is ideal for carry, and the 9mm is backup all around. the 9mm would be good for carry but i worry about over penetration. With todays courts, ccw is top pick for the a-hole prosicuters.

I will somday own atleast one of each. as it stands now they are all probably going to be glocks, except for the .45...i'm thinking Kimber for that one.
 

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Get a hammer.
Ask glock about their record for accidental discharge.
If the Military all over the world use it, its only because its cost effective on a mass scale.
And half the working parts?... Please. I havent yet come across a handgun that couldn't be stripped down to is last spring and put back together fairly simply.
 

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Safe Action Suck's.
Get a hammer.
Ask glock about their record for accidental discharge.
If the Military all over the world use it, its only because its cost effective on a mass scale.
And half the working parts?... Please. I havent yet come across a handgun that couldn't be stripped down to is last spring and put back together fairly simply.

MMM.... I didnt know comie canada let there folks buy guns!
 

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Safe Action Suck's.
Get a hammer.
Ask glock about their record for accidental discharge.
If the Military all over the world use it, its only because its cost effective on a mass scale.
And half the working parts?... Please. I havent yet come across a handgun that couldn't be stripped down to is last spring and put back together fairly simply.
Military and just about every US police and fed org. ATF, FBI, US MARHALLS, DOD, Secret Service, the list is endless. They use tax money so I doubt price matters lol. They want quality!
 

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I personaly dont like .40 S&W. I like 9mm and .45auto. They are the most common handgun calibers in the U.S. The 9mm is the most selling handgun in the U.S.

9mm is great for Hi-Cap and also great all around round for most general targets. Easy to shoot.

.45auto has amazing knock down power and in the U.S there is only one Caliber in most minds for personal defence.
 

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My dad has a .40 M&P and it's a great shooting pistol. Avoid the Sigma at all costs as my brother's .40 Sigma was a complete POS. Point of aim and point of impact were bad off.

My only experience with the Glock was the second generation .45 via shooting with friends. I have to say, I'm old fashioned and prefer the hammer rather than a double action only.

Yes, Glocks are used everywhere because the company manufactures them on the cheap for large contracts.
 

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Military and just about every US police and fed org. ATF, FBI, US MARHALLS, DOD, Secret Service, the list is endless. They use tax money so I doubt price matters lol. They want quality!
Umm... the ATF, FBI and the Secret Service use the SIG226, The DOD are on the verge of having their M9's phased out by the 226. But, I know the cops have em.


And Commie Canada...? You wanna talk about the US on the world stage?, People all over the world should grovel before you... Yes?... Ignorant people like you are why your country is so screwed up lately...
 

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Umm... the ATF, FBI and the Secret Service use the SIG226, The DOD are on the verge of having their M9's phased out by the 226. But, I know the cops have em.


And Commie Canada...? You wanna talk about the US on the world stage?, People all over the world should grovel before you... Yes?... Ignorant people like you are why your country is so screwed up lately...
Now dont go crying ya canuck! But the FBI and the ATF issues all cadets graduated from the FBI a Glock .40 so no you dont know what you are talking about. Go look it up! Secret Service uses a Glock 19 you moron. Some can have the option of carring a Sig226 if they like but thats not standard and the DOD use the Glock 17 or a Glock 19 depended on there job!

Maybe you should do some reading or reasearch first ! Im not saying every person in the DOD FBI Or ATF uses a Glock but 95 % do.
 
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