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Anyone here running Edge as their primary browser? If so, are you using any of the extensions such as Adblock, Privacy Possum, Privacy Badger, etc.?

I've considered using Edge but frankly don't like it for several reasons with security being one of them.

So what say the herd? What are you all doing?
 

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Adguard works excellently with Edge and just about every desktop and mobile browser. It is not free, but not unreasonable for the lifetime license. If you watch their blog, they often have 30% or 50% off sales.

Adguard is more than just a browser ad blocker. It works system wide. Very extensible and adds a lot of internet security and stealth features including. Things like blocking cookies and scripts. Can almost fully anonymize your connection with the stealth features. Supports DNSCrypt and TOR directly. They provide a few DNS servers that offer varying levels of filtering for just ads, adult, etc and combinations.

It does everything through a local VPN. That means that everything is done locally on your device. Nothing is sent out for processing except for anonymous statistics which can be disabled. It uses a VPN which lets it process everything before handing it over to the system. It uses a local security certificate to be able to process https packets and if you have administrator access on the system the certificate can be installed as a system certificate to be able to scan all data regardless of the application. Bedside using the overall settings, everything can be customized at the site level.

Obviously I really like Adguard :) Since starting to use it, I have uninstalled other realtime tools. It handles everything that Adblock, DNS filtering, and much that No Script does. I just run Adguard and antivirus (Eset in my case) and usually Malwarebytes. To a large degree I have moved from the free tools to paid ones. I get tired of advertising in the apps, excessive permissions, the personal data they take, and in many cases the paid tools do better. For example Eset has been the most effective antivirus for over 10 years. Paid doesn't have to be expensive - I just renewed Eset System Security (which adds a firewall and a couple of small utilities) for $124 for 6 machines for 2 years. Essentially $10/year per machine which is, for me, cheap insurance.

Just one note - as you try out these types of things, make sure that you never have more than one program for one issue running at the same time. It may seem like having 2 antivirus programs running at the same time would offer better protection but all it does is chew up resources for no extra protection. One antivirus, one firewall, one adblocker, and so forth. The one exception is Malwarebytes which peacefully coexists with other programs.

Adguard is at https://adguard.com
 

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Thanks! I got an Adguard lifetime subscription promo for $20 at Stack Social a week ago, and I think the promo's still available. It can replace the adblocker plus userscript managers, blocks ads in apps like Rambox (I used the free version then tweaked it for dark mode), etc.
 

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I do use uBlock Origin with FireFox. In fact, here is what all I use with FF:

- Ghostery
- AdBlock Plus
- AdBlocker Ultimate
- Privacy Bdger
- Privacy Possum
- HTTPS Everywhere
- Disable Javascript

What I need to do now is compare findings and see where there is any duplication but more importantly, what is being missed by one but picked up by another.
 

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I use waterfox classic along with ublock origin and quickjava, which allows you to quickly turn off javascript, images, cookies, css and a proxy if you use it.

I like WF because it allows for continued use of older firefox extensions that were torpedoed with quantum.
 

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Remember to first update to latest version of Edge. It would suck to do all the work for old version that is (or should already be) replaced by the new one.
 

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You do have a good bit of duplication of function in that group.
I know. And am also finding that similar programs are not picking up all of the same thing depending on the site.

For example, Adblock Plus picking up 18 whereas Adblocker Ultimate only picking up 12. Ghostery picks up 7 whereas Privacy Badger picks up 8. Have also been Privacy Badger pick up sites and then Privacy Possum picks up a few. Have seen the reverse on other sites.
 

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The uBo developer conducted this simple test involving the default filters vs. a large one:

https://twitter.com/gorhill/status/1289255976198123520

The result is that the filtering performance is the same but browser performance deteriorated. He suggests not adding too many filters or using large ones because they may break some sites and cause slowdown.

What I did in the past was use the default filters and if an annoyance appears (like a popup newsletter or cookie notification or video), activate one filter that probably focuses on that, clear the cache, and reload the page to see if the problem disappears. Otherwise, I right-click and try to do an element block.

Others, I'm told, use large filters like those from Energized or one of those from OISD:

https://energized.pro/

https://oisd.nl/?p=dl

For Adguard, I think one may add large filters without a performance hit as the program runs separately from the browser. In my case, though, I just use the Adguard filters and a few more (like "I don't care about cookies"), and if that doesn't work try element blocking.

Other things I tried:

Pi-hole: a free, DNS sinkhole that I installed in a Raspberry Pi connected to the router, which can block sites that serve ads, that are used for telemetry, etc.

https://pi-hole.net/

Various DNS, like Cloudflare Malware Blocker, Adguard, etc.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-1-1-1-1-for-families/

https://adguard.com/en/adguard-dns/overview.html

https://my.nextdns.io/

I could add them to the router or use DNS Jumper:

https://www.sordum.org/7952/dns-jumper-v2-2/
 

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As a follow up to my suggesting Adguard, they have a free trial period so you can try it before deciding. Since starting to use it, I really haven't bothered with anything else since it seems to be handling everything with only about 15ms delay. I certainly can't notice that much other than with benchmarks.

I have around a dozen filters enabled, use the DNSDecrypt server, use the included firewall, and most of the settings enabled in the stealth browsing settings. If I am really worried about privacy I'll enable the TOR setting although that does have a big performance hit. Also enable installing the security certificate so that encrypted packets get filtered too.

It's maybe repeating myself, but I have been really satisfied with it because it seems to deal with all the issues I run across online and one program works for all internet connections. I don't have to worry about installing different things for every application. Ad blocking, script blocking, secure DNS, privacy settings to cover just about anything, filter all the social media junk and other annoyances, TOR support, decrypting and checking https packets not just http, settings for everything in one place instead of half a dozen applications, and so on. When you get a lifetime license when they have a sale, it's dirt cheap for forever coverage with free updates on all 3 major platforms. If you have multiple devices, there are reasonable discounts and the family pack covers 9 devices of any of the 3 operating systems. That covered us, the kids, and grandkids in one fell swoop.

The older I get, I really start to appreciate the simplicity of the all in one solutions :) Sorry for gushing :) It may not be the next best thing to sliced bread, but it works well for us.
 

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I noticed, though, that Adguard does not have specific domain exclusion or blocking per site (e.g., in uBlock Origin, a matrix shows which third-party sites are being blocked, and a user can choose to exclude one or more just for that site in order to unbreak anything), and probably because it has to work with other apps where that's not possible because addons can't be installed.

Edit: There's a filtering log.

Also, I don't think it works with Nano Defender or similar. Instead, a site which circumvents adblocking even with lists that support that enabled has to be reported to the developers (using "Report this website" in the browser addon) so that they can add a fix to the software user lists.
 

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In other words, there is no ONE solution to the problem. It will require multiple solutions similar to what I am running with Firefox.
 

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I noticed, though, that Adguard does not have specific domain exclusion or blocking per site (e.g., in uBlock Origin, a matrix shows which third-party sites are being blocked, and a user can choose to exclude one or more just for that site in order to unbreak anything), and probably because it has to work with other apps where that's not possible because addons can't be installed.

Edit: There's a filtering log.

Also, I don't think it works with Nano Defender or similar. Instead, a site which circumvents adblocking even with lists that support that enabled has to be reported to the developers (using "Report this website" in the browser addon) so that they can add a fix to the software user lists.
If we are talking about the same thing, Adguard has white and black lists that explicitly allow or disallow functionality depending on which way you set a toggle to interpret them. It can work at the domain level or only selected directories. In the Windows version, you can click on the floating Adguard icon to make domain or page changes.

Adguard sets up a VNC on your computer and all traffic is routed through it. My understanding, which could be faulty, is that they don't have to change anything to the VNC code for ab unsupported client but something in what they call Corelibs. I think :)
 
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