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It is comedy but a few things made me wonder if this is what people assume.

Couple are held at gunpoint but really start panicking when the thug held his gun sideways. OMG death shot!! As a shooter being confronted by someone who holds a pistol that way would be comforting. I would take it they are incompetent.

Shooting off a masterlock type lock with a pistol. You see this all the time in movies. Does it really work? I might see a 12 gauge slug haven't enough mass but your usual 9mm?? Plus I would be scared of fragments and ricochets. Curious.

The couple got hold of an old Colt Walker or Navy that a guy had out as a display piece. When he fired it the barrel exploded! First off NO ONE would have a loaded firearm as a display. Second just because it is old doesn't mean it will self conboomerate. Hollywood :(
 

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To the person holding the gun sideways they are intent on shooting at you. To 'them' that is how you hold a gun to shoot at someone. If they can shoot hat way and the bullets hit you, your disdain of their technique won't be noted.
 

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Hmm the people who shoot like this picked it up from a movie in 1993 and the first documented case from a robbery in Detroit in 1987. Because it looks "cool" whatever, thanks to Hollywood. Dumb

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/11/05/m...cond-hold-that-gun-sideways.html?pagewanted=1

Most experts agreed that the sideways trend started with the 1993 Hughes Brothers film "Menace II Society." A character called O-Dog holds his gun sideways as he murders a grocer, then replays the security-system videotape of the event for his friends. Allen and Albert Hughes said they first witnessed the technique during a robbery in Detroit in 1987. They said they used it in their film not because it looked cool but because it seemed sloppy, edgy and realistic.
 

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It is comedy but a few things made me wonder if this is what people assume.

Couple are held at gunpoint but really start panicking when the thug held his gun sideways. OMG death shot!! As a shooter being confronted by someone who holds a pistol that way would be comforting. I would take it they are incompetent.

Shooting off a masterlock type lock with a pistol. You see this all the time in movies. Does it really work? I might see a 12 gauge slug haven't enough mass but your usual 9mm?? Plus I would be scared of fragments and ricochets. Curious.
The couple got hold of an old Colt Walker or Navy that a guy had out as a display piece. When he fired it the barrel exploded! First off NO ONE would have a loaded firearm as a display. Second just because it is old doesn't mean it will self conboomerate. Hollywood :(
It will work if you shoot the shackle not sure that it would be very easy with a pistol but it would do it we did it a few times in iraq with our m4s on locked gates we wanted to get through. so it can be done not sure how safe using a pistol would be but to each there own

and it doesnt have anything to do with mass per say the shakle is highly temperd steel thats why you cant saw through them easily and the energy transfered into it from the bullet breaks it but the 12 ga works alot more easily
 

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Another Hollywoodism, AK, AR, and any military style rifles not only are all class three but only shoot full auto.

All shotguns are pumps,and can blow an entire wall down from five feet away because pellet spread is immediate.

Handguns kill with one shot each time regardless of caliber or load.

RPGs and other antitank weapons create giant gas explosions that are also area affect weapons. Grenades explode with the force of twenty pounds of Composition B and ten gallons of gas.

Scoped weapons are ALWAYS zeroed for the target seen, with no holdover even when the target is moving, or it is a hasty shot. Collimators, wind meters, log books, and other sniper instruments do not exist.
 
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Scoped weapons are ALWAYS zeroed for the target seen, with no holdover even when the target is moving, or it is a hasty shot. Collimators, wind meters, log books, and other sniper instruments do not exist.
Today's sniper is taught to "Dial in" their settings--including wind drift and hold dead on (obviously not on a moving target) because the scopes are now precise enough to do that where the stuff we had back in the 1970s we set to one range and held over or under...

And when they show the audance looking thur the scope and no crosshairs
on target and shooter makes perfect shot. :confused:
Hollywood makes enterainment only very little shown is real. :mad:
The no or only partial reticle was insisted on, by the censors, after M. L. King, and J. F. Kennedy were assassinated...It is only in recent years that they have been allowed back...
 

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I can't watch movies anymore because of stuff similar to this. I see a gun in a guys hand for example a 92FS and then the frame changes same guy but now holding a P99...wtf? Or SWAT when they shoot you'll hear more bullets being fired after the slide locks back on the pistol...I could go on and on. But whatever, I don't own a TV anyway.
 

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Hmm the people who shoot like this picked it up from a movie in 1993 and the first documented case from a robbery in Detroit in 1987. Because it looks "cool" whatever, thanks to Hollywood. Dumb

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/11/05/m...cond-hold-that-gun-sideways.html?pagewanted=1

Most experts agreed that the sideways trend started with the 1993 Hughes Brothers film "Menace II Society." A character called O-Dog holds his gun sideways as he murders a grocer, then replays the security-system videotape of the event for his friends. Allen and Albert Hughes said they first witnessed the technique during a robbery in Detroit in 1987. They said they used it in their film not because it looked cool but because it seemed sloppy, edgy and realistic.
I read this same article and another that did actual accuracy tests while holding a pistol sideways. The tests proved that you are far less accurate holding a pistol in the sideways position. Mostly since you are note even sighting in on your target.
 

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The only thing I could come up with that made sense for using the sideways 'kill shot' grip is it would throw the cases toward the ground which could be useful if you are poking your gun out of a car window for a drive by. Oh snap wait that is only good for lefties like me so never mind.

Thanks for the link on the locks. What I gathered is if you are going to do a lock with a pistol you have to be right on top of it at point blank range for even a chance it will do damage, to the lock and probably yourself. Err I think I will invest in a big bolt cutter for my SHTF needs. Loved the slug though.
 
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