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Being a gun & PM owner, and food hoarder,I've given this issue considerable thought (FWIW : ).
First, we WILL be facing global-level gun bans in the not-too-distant future. Yeah,yeah, I know,blah,blah,blah,"Not in THIS country", and "...from my cold dead hands..." and so forth. Whatever. I've been in the minority on this issue,here and on other forums, for some time.
Nevertheless.......I guarantee you that it's coming. But, it's also likely coming for gold and silver,too. And, it's coming for food and farm land. And your pension funds. And whatever else you imagine will preserve your independence and freedom.
Their plan IS coming to fruition, while ours is being slowly dismembered.
And, to all those that I fully expect to either ignore or condemn this post, I gotta ask.......do you actually READ all the posts on this forum ?? I mean REALLY read them ???
Everyone claims to see the "signs on the horizon",sure, but only to a point. Then everyone seems to tuck back into the fetal postion, and start chanting, "it's all gonna work out, we're gonna win in the end,it's all gonna work out......".

Except that it isn't.


(edit) LOL !! The post below mine illustrates my point perfectly !! If a smart,strong,independent,"back-against-the-wall" country like Israel ( or England) can be castrated and made a "no-gun country", then how easy will it one day be to do to ours ? Notice he doesn't say,"screw those jack-booted thugs, I'll never give up my guns"? He, the disarmed, is merely giving advice to those that haven't yet been.

....if i wasnt living in a no-gun country like Israel, i would rather buy guns and ammo than precious metals

Believe it or not, I've recently been liquidating a few of my toys, in anticipation of being stuck with more than I can shoot when Obammy inevitably goes back on his campaign statements.

 

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....Are you sure you want to kill someone over what might be a minor thing like a bag of groceries or a couple of bucks ??

There's lots of guys in prison already for gun related issues, you want to be one of them ??.

The discussion is largely about a post-collapse environment, so yes, me,you and everybody, in a SHTF/TEOTWAWKI situation, would kill someone over a bag of groceries, since the person taking said bag would almost assuredly be doing so by force ( so therefore.... self-defense).