FORD SEEKING PATENT TO LOCK PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR VEHICLES
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If they want to find you they have tracking devices on their vehicles so what this is all about is that later on if they don't want you to go someplace they can just lock you out.
They are able to get away with this because nobody calls up Ford to complain and to tell them that we are not ever going to buy a Ford vehicle again.
Here is one example, starting around 2002 automatic transmissions were coming out of the factory without a dipstick to check the transmission fluid, so now you have to pay to take it to the dealer to put it up on the lift to get it checked and what if you have a slow leak starting, well you can't check it and you can't add any fluid so it burns up and you have a big repair bill.
Everyone has to call up and complain and only then will they back off.
They are able to get away with this because nobody calls up Ford to complain and to tell them that we are not ever going to buy a Ford vehicle again.
Here is one example, starting around 2002 automatic transmissions were coming out of the factory without a dipstick to check the transmission fluid, so now you have to pay to take it to the dealer to put it up on the lift to get it checked and what if you have a slow leak starting, well you can't check it and you can't add any fluid so it burns up and you have a big repair bill.
Everyone has to call up and complain and only then will they back off.
Headline News: Common man and consumer seeking patent to keep buyers off of Ford Dealership lots.
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It sounds scummy... I hope they don't do it...Defaults on vehicle loans are soaring, especially among gen Z and millenials.
Ford has filed a patent to lock people out of vehicles for missing a payment.
New Ford patent would lock out owners for missed payments, allow cars to be repossessed remotely
Ford filed for a patent on a new technological system that would allow the automaker to lock out owners from their cars for missed payments. The patent would also allow cars to be repossessed remotely – even enabling self-driving vehicles to drive themselves to a repo lot. Ford Global...www.theblaze.com
However, what's normal in business is if you think you might have a moneymaking idea, you go and get a patent, in case delaying causes someone else to beat you out.
You don't necessarilly totally investigate whether making the invention is something you probably should or will do, don't necessarily do a lot of soul searching.
So I think it's more about making sure they get the patent, just in case, and not really about what their plans are.
If they really make it, it's going to be a little vindication. But after I got annoyed by a million Ford guys- a trend I expect will continue- it's not going to make me feel much better if a few random ones get pushed around like this, or if it sort of proves to the world a bit more openly that Ford is bad.
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Speaking of intellectual property...
Someone should have trademarked the name "Corona Blaster" for a firearm
They could have had a Basic that was $600 and a Deluxe that was $1,200
Someone should have trademarked the name "Corona Blaster" for a firearm
They could have had a Basic that was $600 and a Deluxe that was $1,200
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I'm sure it will work as well as the rest of the crap soft ware and hard wire they sell. I hope I'm on the jury when they get sued for locking someone out of their cars because no car needs that system period.
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It would be easy for them to start a "recovery service" and have the finance company assign a recovery contract to them just like they do with repo agents. Just a repo and not grand theft.
What concerns me about it is what others have mentioned. I could care less about cars being repo'd using the technology, but once they can shut down your vehicle for non-payment they can shut it down for other reasons. Government says you are only allowed to drive within a 15 minute radius of home? Shut down when you exceed it. Putting the genie back in the bottle would be nearly impossible and they would absolutely come up with other uses for it.
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Another member compared this to John Deere's draconian software controls. Deere continues to lose market share because of it, and that from a farm boy that grew up driving green equipment.
This is all bad.
This is all bad.
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Time back a guy got locked INSIDE his car.
Electronic malfunction wouldn't let the doors open.
Electronic malfunction wouldn't let the doors open.
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Yeah all this crap just makes me want to buy an old carbureted truck from the early 80's and say FU! I mean, I get why they would want to do it if they could, but man this opens a whole can of worms that I am not really comfortable with. Having grown up in the 80's and 90's all of this just seems so damn crazy. Like that guy in Canada that got locked out of his Tesla when the battery was going bad and they wanted to charge him 20 grand.
Bottom line is, once you own the title, you should be able to disable all of this crap. But you know you won't be able to...
Bottom line is, once you own the title, you should be able to disable all of this crap. But you know you won't be able to...
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The Cops already have that in common use. Better than spike strips. The RF Safe Stop directed energy device.
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Yet more reasons to keep driving my old carb’d F250 with minimal electronics. Idk what man needs all that computerized 💩 in the new trucks anyways. I will still be driving even after an emp hit as well. While all those new trucks will become driveway ornaments overnight.
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Got a chuckle out of that.
Most people know that everything is interlocked via the computer.
Any sensor out of range, or not reporting, and the vehicle will either slow down to max 20 mph, or stop altogether. That's already here. Stopping and locking the doors is just the next step. They'll probably include an ejection seat for those who refuse to leave the vehicle.
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Technically....unless you paid cash and the title is in your name with no lien on it, that's not true. Until you pay it off, the vehicle legally belongs to whoever gave you the loan.
The could easily include language in the contract requiring the lock out and allowing use if you miss "X" payents as part of the terms; and most people would be happy to sign it. In which case, removing the antenna, or defeating it in any way, would be breach of contract.
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