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the 1st thing a family/grp needs to do in food storage is to make a plan, how much can you spend on your food preps either all at once ,or in weekly or monthly buys.you need to find a place to store it ,out of sight in a cool dry place.and make sure your family/grp understands rule #1 in prepping NEVER EVER TELL ANYONE about your preps.

whether you stockup on freeze dried, dehydrated, or canned foods they ALL will store for over 20 yrs only if they are stored properly. this means in a dry area at temp. below 60 degrees or lower but not freezeing. the colder they are kept the longer they will store. most ppl cant store them at temp of below 60 degrees but you can store them at room temp 72-75 for over 10 yrs with no problems. the dates on cann goods is a psy-ops on the public, to make you think if its past that date you must throw it away and buy new.i have had canned foods that was dated over 30 yrs old and nothing was wrong with it. it tasted the same as 1 yr old canned food.

in planning on what your going to stock up on. have everyone in your family make a list of 14-16 simple to make meals that they are willing to eat. once you got this list next you need to list all ingredients and each amount to make each meal. next you need to do is combined each of the ingredients to see just how much of each ingredient you need inorder to make all 14 meals example: you may need a total of 1/2lb flour,1/4lb of beans,3 cans of tomato sauce...ect to make several of the meals on everyones list.

once you know exactly how much of each ingredients you need for 14 meals now you know just how much you need to make 2 meals per day for 7 days (1 week) of food that your family will be happy to eat. it will do you no good to stock up $500 worth of food if no1 in your family is willing to eat it.rule #2 in prepping :eat what you store and store what you eat. now you need to deside just how many weeks you want to stock up for. lets say 13 weeks (3 months) you look at an ingredient multiply it by 13. example: 1/2lb flour x 13weeks = 6 1/2 lb of flour is what is required,1/4lb beans x 13 weeks = 3 1/4 lb of beans,3 cans of sauce x 13 weeks = 39 cans of sauce...ect if you want 6 months worth just multiply it by 26, for 1 yr mutiply by 52.

storage of dry goods for long term storage.(6 or more years) its a good idea to place items in mylar with oxygen absorbers and sealed then place the package in a 5 gallon bucket with more absorbers.however for short term storage this isnt a have to thing to do specially if you rotate your foods to keep things fresh as possable. if you dont allow your food to get no older than 3-5 yrd old (many items can get older and be just fine) you can just put them in ziplocks and placed in a 5 gal bucket some put oz abosorbers in the bucket some ppl dont.for long term storage you really need to store your supplies in a dry and very cool area. 40-60 degrees is prefered the lower the temp the longer it will store.if you are stocking up for a short term then room temp.'s will be ok.

when putting your dry goods in a bucket many ppl will tell you to put all of one ingredient in 1 bucket example 1,5gal bucket of flour,another bucket of rice another of beans...ect. this is fine if your a family /grp is 6 ppl or more,but if your family /grp is 4 ppl less i suggest that you put a little bit in each bucket example: 2lb flour, 5lb rice,5lb beans...ect. by doing this you only need to open 1 bucket up at a time instead of breaking the seal of 5 buckets to make 1 meal.also dont forget to date each bucket ,if possable it would help to put a list of whats in it on the outside of the bucket.

here is a good video on 5 gal. storage there are several more posted on you tube

the best place i have found to get free buckets is in the bakery section of my local grocery store.some grocery stores will give them to you free others will charge you a dollar or two. when i get my buckets i always try to get them with lids that have the rubber gasket in the lid. it will create a 2nd barrier for keeping air out :thumb:

some ppl buy #10 cans of freeze dried which is fine,but do you know how to use them to make a meal?. i think this idea in this video is a good idea of makeing homemade MRE's


to save money you can dehydrate your veggie's that you grow in your garden and more. here is a good link on dehydrateing your own foods http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=147658&highlight=dehydrator

dont forget to stock up on herbs & spices, food is really bland if you dont have seasonings to help it out :thumb:
 

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if you cant store alot of water,its a good idea to store canned goods because they already have water in the canned food so you will use less water.if you store dehydrated or freeze dried food you will need a large amount of water.it would be a good idea to sit down and figure out exactly how much water you will need just for food alone.it would do you no good to have a years worth of freeze dried foods and just have enough water for 3 days worth of food.if your storage space is limited you may not beable to store alot of water if so its VERY important to have a water filter,knowledge of where to get water, and a way to transport it without useing a vehicle. here is a good link on the different ways of water filtering http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=183409

i highly suggest you rotate everything and not set it and forget it.the red cross suggest rotateing water every 6 months. food can be rotated more slowly. the easiest way to rotate is by useing rule #2 store what you use and use what you store. you can build many different types of shelves that will make rotateing canned goods very easy. your buckets might take some enginuity to make it easy to rotate.
 

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many ppl will stock up a few cases of military MRE's and that is just fine. MRE's are primarily for backpacking they are lightweight and compact,perfect for backpacking and even in a BoB they would work nicely. but as a main long term food stock it is extremely expensive and there are much better ways to stock up than useing MRE's. and they do require alot of extra water.

many times ppl make up homemade MRE's for ALOT cheaper,healthier, better tasteing,and more filling :thumb:


a common problem preppers have in food storage is organization also how and where to put all this stuff. here is a few videos that might give you some ideas :thumb:









here is how to make a homemade rack whether useing cardboard or wood :thumb:

http://foodstoragemadeeasy.net/2009/02/16/build-your-own-can-rotating-rack/

http://intelligentlivingpoes.wordpr...anted-shelf-pattern-for-canned-food-rotation/

http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/showthread.php?t=377225

one way to save money on food storage is by gardening ,then canning and/or dehydrateing the food that you grow.i already gave a good link to dehydrateing but here is a GREAT link on canning

http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=75093

another great way to save money while stocking up is to buy during seasonal sales examples: during memorial day,4th of july,and labor day these are great times to stock up on certain stuff like charcoal,lighter fluid, BBQ sauces, ketchup,mustard...ect. you can save money buying a years worth of all the stuff they put on sale for outdoor grilling.the same thing goes for thanksgiveing and Xmass those are good times for seasonings among other good deals .often times soups and stews will go on sale in january :thumb:

here is a good link to give you an idea of when and what goes on sale seasonally :thumb:

http://preparedldsfamily.blogspot.com/2008/12/seasonal-sales-calendar.html

outside of seasonal sales i usually go to aldi"s their canned goods are by far the cheapest ive seen that isnt on sale and that are at their normal everyday prices
 

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good point,can you give us some links of the ones you know of that are "STICKIED" ?
Good Job Cryptkeeper. Don't listen to the whiners who can't be bothered to read posts, when one already exists thus they have to complain about it. Good info is good info, repetition is the mother of all skills. Someone may have a different take on the same way of doing something you never thought of, and it may be much improved.
 

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I think those can racks are really neat, but it seems like there is a lot of wasted space..I also would rather take that money and invest in more cans, which I just stack up, on top of each other using the cardboard boxes that they come in..

i agree, i would much rather spend the money on more food. i think they want way to much for those racks. ATM im doing the same thing as you,however rotateing our food is VERY important and the way im rotateing now is a MAJOR pain.IF you have a way of getting some FREE wood ,and you have the tools,you could make your own racks VERY easily :thumb: i see wooden pallets being given away all the time some business's hope you will come and take them.or maybe a shelf or a dresser that is setting on the side of the road the owners are hopeing someone will haul it off.i have a few BIG projects to complete but once they are finished makeing these cann racks will be next :thumb:

it is true they do take up more room and you have less goods in the same amount of space , but one of my projects is to make a pantry. if i can get the material together and build it then i will have the room needed :thumb:
 

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Good Job Cryptkeeper. Don't listen to the whiners who can't be bothered to read posts, when one already exists thus they have to complain about it. Good info is good info, repetition is the mother of all skills. Someone may have a different take on the same way of doing something you never thought of, and it may be much improved.
Yep. God forbid we re-visit an issue ... ESPECIALLY food storage ... :rolleyes:

I "need" to try my hand at some woodworking cuz I can't stomach the prices they want for ready-made rotating shelves ... :taped:

Thanks! Crypty ... :)
 

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Good Job Cryptkeeper. Don't listen to the whiners who can't be bothered to read posts, when one already exists thus they have to complain about it. Good info is good info, repetition is the mother of all skills. Someone may have a different take on the same way of doing something you never thought of, and it may be much improved.

sometimes ppl who already know alot of this stuff forgets that there are new ppl logging on this forum everyday who dont know much in the way of prepping.obviously by her low post count she hasnt been on here in a while,or she would know that there has been alot of new ppl asking about stockpileing food.it is a shame that instead shareing some of her vast exp. in prepping and adding to the thread for everyone's benefit she choose to try and shoot the post down.

i just hope im able to plant some seeds of thought on what ppl need to do in the way of prepping

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I store our emergency supplies with the adage, "Buy what you eat" ringing in my head. These things WILL go out of date at some point so you will want to buy what you WILL eat when the time draws near. Nothing worse than that can of beets that nobody wants to eat EVEN in an emergency situation. EXCELLENT point made about the sphagetti o's etc as well. If it's a prepared food and canned, it doesn't HAVE to be heated up to eat (it may be yucky but it's SAFE) and can be eaten cold if need be.
 

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Is this true? Literally 30 years old? I read somewhere on a forum that the cans won't hold up that long, and that the food inside would deteriorate/corrode them......
Home canned food will last pretty much forever if the lid doesn't rust through and it's kept out of the light. My grandmother canned some stuff in the 60's that my family dug into in 2008. It was all totally acceptable.
 

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Is this true? Literally 30 years old? I read somewhere on a forum that the cans won't hold up that long, and that the food inside would deteriorate/corrode them......

When I was in basic trainning in the army in 1982 we got 1 case of C-rations dated 1945. All C-rations are is canned food, nothing special is put in them, no magic canning secret its just manufactured canned food .

The trick is in where you store it. :thumb: In a COOL, dry place. :thumb:

I like dehydrateing foods from my garden with my dehydrator. If stored properly they can last just as long as cann goods.

Dont believe me about canned goods? Read this :D: LOL in this case just keeing it cool did the trick :thumb:

http://web.archive.org/web/20070509153848/http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/CONSUMER/CON00043.html



http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=180585

Side note : LoL I wish I could have corrected all the miss spells and capitolized everything before it locked me out of editing my post lol. All well it is what it is :thumb:
 

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Is this true? Literally 30 years old? I read somewhere on a forum that the cans won't hold up that long, and that the food inside would deteriorate/corrode them......
some foods will last that long just sitting out in the open. the reason you package them is cuz of bugs. Like rice, I think the reason you put in an oxygen absorber is just to kill the weevils so they don't eat the rice over 30 years.

I think that if the can is in good condition, only quality and nutrition deteriorate on some foods, but the calories and fiber are still available for consumption.

If concerned about botulism, just cook it a little longer?
 

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some foods will last that long just sitting out in the open. the reason you package them is cuz of bugs. Like rice, I think the reason you put in an oxygen absorber is just to kill the weevils so they don't eat the rice over 30 years.

I think that if the can is in good condition, only quality and nutrition deteriorate on some foods, but the calories and fiber are still available for consumption.

If concerned about botulism, just cook it a little longer?

This is true :thumb:

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111227060613AAW1PPg

http://preparednesspro.wordpress.com/2009/09/24/whats-the-shelf-life-of-wheat/

Only some of the nutrition deteriorates like vitamin A & C,but protiens and calcium stays good.

Side note: I put my rice, flour and cornmeal in the freezer for at least 2 days to kill any bugs before storeing them.
 
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