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i found this on a site this morning. still not wanting to believe this.

On Monday, December 1, a SWAT team with semi-automatic rifles entered the private home of the Stowers family in LaGrange, Ohio, herded the family onto the couches in the living room, and kept guns trained on parents, children, infants and toddlers, from approximately 11 AM to 8 PM. The team was aggressive and belligerent. The children were quite traumatized. At some point, the “bad cop” SWAT team was relieved by another team, a “good cop” team that tried to befriend the family. The Stowers family has run a very large, well-known food cooperative called Manna Storehouse on the western side of the greater Cleveland area for many years.
There were agents from the Department of Agriculture present, one of them identified as Bill Lesho. The search warrant is reportedly supicious-looking. Agents began rifling through all of the family’s possessions, a task that lasted hours and resulted in a complete upheaval of every private area in the home. Many items were taken that were not listed on the search warrant. The family was not permitted a phone call, and they were not told what crime they were being charged with. They were not read their rights. Over ten thousand dollars worth of food was taken, including the family’s personal stock of food for the coming year. All of their computers, and all of their cell phones were taken, as well as phone and contact records. The food cooperative was virtually shut down. There was no rational explanation, nor justification, for this extreme violation of Constitutional rights.

Presumably Manna Storehouse might eventually be charged with running a retail establishment without a license. Why then the Gestapo-type interrogation for a 3rd degree misdemeanor charge? This incident has raised the ominous specter of a restrictive new era in State regulation and enforcement over the nation’s private food supply.

This same type of abusive search and seizure was reported by those innocents who fell victim to oppressive federal drug laws passed in the 1990s. The present circumstance raises the obvious question: is there some rabid new interpretation of an existing drug law that considers food a controlled substance worthy of a nasty SWAT operation? Or worse, is there a previously unrecognized provision(s) pertaining to food in the Homeland Security measures? Some have suggested that it was merely an out-of-control, hot-to-trot ODA agent, and, if so, this would be a best-case scenario. Anything else might spell the beginning of the end for the freedom to eat unregulated and unmonitored food.

One blogger familiar with the Ohio situation has reported that:

“Interestingly, I believe they [Manna Storehouse] said a month or so ago, an undercover ODA official came to their little store and claimed to have a sick father wanting to join the co-op. Both the owner and her daughter-in-law had a horrible feeling about the man, and decided not to allow him into the co-op and notified him by certified mail. He came back to the co-op demanding to be part of it. They refused and gave him names of other businesses and health food stores closer to his home. Not coincidentally, this man was there yesterday as part of the raid.”

The same blog also noted that the Ohio Department of Agriculture has been chastised by the courts in several previous instances for its aggression, including trying to entrap an Amish man in a raw milk “sale,” which backfired when it became known that the Amish believe in a literal interpretation of “give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away” (Matthew 5:42)

The issue appears to be the discovery of a bit of non-institutional beef in an Oberlin College food service freezer a year ago that was tracked down by a county sanitation official to Manna Storehouse. Oberlin College’s student food coop is widely known for its strident ideological stance about eating organic foods. It seems that the Oberlin student food cooperative had joined the Manna Storehouse food cooperative in order to buy organic foods in bulk from the national organic food distributor United, which services buying clubs across the nation. The sanitation official, James Boddy, evidently contacted the Ohio Department of Agriculture. After the first contact by state ODA officials, Manna Storehouse reportedly wrote them a letter requesting assistance and guidelines for complying with the law. This letter was never answered. Rather, the ODA agent tried several times to infiltrate the coop, as described above. When his attempts failed, the SWAT team showed up!

Food cooperatives and buying clubs have been an active part of the American landscape for over a generation. In the 1970s, with the rise of the organic food industry (a direct outgrowth of the hippie back-to-nature movement) food coops started up all over the country. These were groups of people who freely associated for the purpose of combining their buying power so that they could order organic food items in bulk and case lots. Anyone who was part of these coops in the early era will remember the messy breakdown of 35 pounds of peanut butter and 5 gallon drums of honey!

These buying clubs have persisted and flourished over the years due to their ability to purchase high quality organic foods at reduced prices in bulk quantities. Most cooperatives have participated greatly in the local agrarian economies, supporting neighborhood organic farmers with purchases of produce, eggs, chickens, etc. The groups also purchase food from a number of different local, regional and national distributors, many of them family-based businesses who truck the food themselves. Some of these food cooperatives have become large enough to set up mini-storefront operations where members can drop in and purchase items leftover from case lot sales. Manna Storehouse had established itself in such a manner, using a small enclosed breezeway attached to their home. It was a folksy place with old wooden floors where coop members stopped by to chat and snack on bags of organic corn chips.

The state of Ohio boasts the second largest Amish population in the country. Many of the Amish live on acreages where they raise their own food, not unlike Manna Storehouse, and sell off the extras to neighbors and church members. There is a sense of foreboding that this state crackdown on a longstanding, reputable food cooperative operation could adversely impact the peaceful agrarian way of life not only for the Amish, but homeschoolers and those families living off the land on rural acreages. It raises the disturbing possibility that it could become a crime to raise your own food, buy eggs from the farmer down the road, or butcher your own chickens for family and friends – bustling activities that routinely take place in backwater America.

The freedom to purchase food directly form the source is increasingly under attack. For those who have food allergies and chemical intolerances, or who are on special medical diets, this is becoming a serious health issue. Will Americans retain the right to purchase food that is uncontaminated by pesticides, herbicides, allergens, additives, dyes, preservatives, MSG, GMOs, radiation, etc.? The melamine scare from China underscores the increasingly inferior and suspect quality of modern processed institutional foods. One blog, commenting on the bizarre and troubling Manna Storehouse situation, observed that:

“No one is saying exactly why. At the same time the FDA says it it safe to eat the 40% of tainted beef found in Costco's and Sam's all over the nation. These farm raids are very common now. Every farmer needs to fully eqiped [sic] for the possibility of it happening to them. The Farmer To Consumer Legal Defense Fund was created just for this purpose. The USDA just released their plans to put a law into action that will put all small farmers out of business. Animals for the sale of meat or milk will only be allowed in commercial farms, even the organic ones.” December 3, 2008 7:09 PM


http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/08/swat-team.htm
 

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Just another brick in the wall. Frightening, but also emboldening. Seed and grain are the property of all mankind - we must seriously consider the consequences of the gradual (but nonetheless very real) takeover of the entire world's food growing capacity.
The economic crisis?
What a great distraction from the global food crisis - remember that?
How about the world energy crisis?

The narrative has been decided. The nations of the world now will operate as one. One global set of laws and regulation, superceding any notions of federal and post-national notions of constitutional rights - regardless of global region.

North american countries, Asian nations, African countires - it is all the same - they will all join. We see now the joining of 6 regional unions of nations, with only 1 or two more to come before a grim coalescing into the shadowy new Order.

European Union (EU), African Union, Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) , The Shanghai Cooperation Organization, the Union of South American Nation, and finally The South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC).

And we cannot overlook the ubiquitous grouping of the U.N., the World Health Organization, The World Bank, the International Monetary Fund, the World Trade Organization, the G8, NATO.

They have joined, and in concert they strive to put the final pieces in play. We need to wake up.

Great post, thanks again

Once there was The People--Terror gave it birth;
Once there was The People and it made a Hell of Earth.
Earth arose and crushed it. Listen, O ye slain!
Once there was The People--it shall never be again!
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the feds have gone from raiding for guns to food and as things get worse the police state will get worse.they want your guns gold and food so you less independent and are more enslaved and under their contriol.
 

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Hard to say not knowing the specifics. If it was a coop and money changed hands they were wide open without a business license. If it was a coop that did not involve money and each member donated what they had and received shares of what others donated then the gooberment f'd up bad and may get a lawsuit. The fact they served a warrant with a swat team shows they are f'n idiots. The swat team should never be convened outside the police station unless there is a required armed response, or on training grounds away from the public.

These people are idiots. If they did not place them under arrest and read them their rights, they went against constitutional law in holding them at all. they should all have been allowed to go during the search.

The judge that signed the warrant should be disbarred and the swat team leader should be excused from any further duties, and let go.
 

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It raises the disturbing possibility that it could become a crime to raise your own food, buy eggs from the farmer down the road, or butcher your own chickens for family and friends – bustling activities that routinely take place in backwater America.

I think the difference here is they were selling it. You can shoot a deer or a goat and take it to be butchered for yourself no problem. But when you intend to sell meat to the public it's becomes a different matter. I ran into that when we formed a meat goat association. It must be processed at a USDA approved facility in order to sell it to the public. I find it very hard to believe it will become a crime to raise your own food. :rolleyes:
 

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yer,
It could be a sign of the times with unconstitutional and illegal raids on groups, co ops and alike.
If the victims did break the law, then the report indicates they weren't informed under their legal rights.
Legal rights will be the first casualty as things deteriorate.
 

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Hard to say not knowing the specifics. If it was a coop and money changed hands they were wide open without a business license. If it was a coop that did not involve money and each member donated what they had and received shares of what others donated then the gooberment f'd up bad and may get a lawsuit. The fact they served a warrant with a swat team shows they are f'n idiots. The swat team should never be convened outside the police station unless there is a required armed response, or on training grounds away from the public.

These people are idiots. If they did not place them under arrest and read them their rights, they went against constitutional law in holding them at all. they should all have been allowed to go during the search.

The judge that signed the warrant should be disbarred and the swat team leader should be excused from any further duties, and let go.
You know why the SWAT team was sent.....because anyone not working within the 'normal' channels is either survivalist/militia types loaded to the teeth with guns (assumed) and they wanted to be prepared.....you know how kooky people with guns are......
 

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Without a licenced kitchen or farm most meats and milk can be sold for animal food only. Back before the licence I would not sell to anyone who asked for food for their family or themselves or any other human. More than likely they were undercover. If someone hinted at the fact the meat or milk was for them I would not sell it. It's sad that this is the way it is, but it's been that way for awhile.

Different foods bring different responses too. Asking for donations for maple syrup is okay, but milk has to be sold strictly for animal use only. No donations for milk or unpasturized dairy products for human use. No accepting ANY form of payment for wine or beer for any use. Don't sell things like Stevia as a sweetner. It is illegal. Stevia is sold as Stevia and if a person doesn't know how to use it that's their problem. You can ask for donation for dried herbal remedies but nothing can be asked for the same remedy in syrup form. Wild game can not be sold or asked for donation for, even though venison is a great dog food. Eggs have to be sold from an electric cooler, no ice, but there's no law that says that cooler needs to be plugged in. I sell at a farmer's market where I sell out of an unplugged electric cooler and the inspectors just laugh and say nothing.

It's hard to keep track of all the different rules and how they're enforced which is why there aren't more direct market farmers. Mother Earth News had a wonderful article about the raids that were happening out east on different farmers.

It's sad really. I understand how dangerous food can be when not stored or prepared properly but the small farms are probably cleaner than the big slaughter houses. I worked at DelMonte when I was in college and I once saw two men urinate into a vat of sourcraut. The bigger the food processor the more people that come in contact with the food, the more things that can go wrong. Farmers that has to keep their reputation safe will do everything in their power to mantain high standards.

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What's next summery systemantic torture or exacution of the youngest to the oldest of the children for an interagation techniqe!!!:mad::mad::mad: They're not far away, the russians, the East German and the orientials excelled at this!



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A lot of this continues because the rank and file LEOs in fed and state and local level cannot see the diff between what is right and what is legal!Ywavol mien kapatain ve vill obey without question.
 

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There are so many things pointing to a major event happening very soon. Something that will basically shut the country down. The government wants people to be reliant on them. They don't want you being self sufficient. When you are starving you will be willing to trade in your guns or do anything they say. At least most will. Or god forbid mass amounts of people are infected with something only they have the cure for.
 

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How are we suppose to respect LEO's when they take part in this crap?

Remember, "I was just following orders" doesn't work.
 

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Trying to confirm story in the Cleveland Plain Dealer and can't. (at least not yet). http://www.cleveland.com/plaindealer/

The Crossroads site merely repeats the same info from the Manna site, so you are repeating a press release by the guys who were shut down. Rest of you are agreeing and reacting to a press release. So far, give cops the benefit of the doubt.......

Compare above post to the more measued and critical reactions on the The Tree of Liberty Site: http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=39147&page=3[/url]


From "Tree of Liberty webite"

"I agree, critical to have an independent link on this one. If true, this is more than disturbing.

But things become viral so quickly on the internet that the appearance of this article "everywhere" could just be a bit of
misinformation/faulty information moving too quickly to verify or correct it. Any of us could spread any piece of information
we wanted everywhere within 24 hours - but how quickly a piece of information spreads itself over the Internet isn't a
measure of truth at all..

If anyone has more verification, it is essential to post it - the full story needs to be told and verified. Obviously just on the
face of what was posted, this is not a good thing IF true."

and

"I'm searching area newspapers in LaGrange, Ohio.
But cannot find anything posted yet.w "

Our posters above are responding to what is in essence a press release from the Manna storehouse. Geez.

Every post above beleives the Manna story, except for Salatheel who thinks its a sign of the end of the world.
 

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Uncle Sam is just pissed because he cannot figure out a way to tax the trading and bartering of goods. This is why I buy off the internet from out of state vendors. Alteast I'm still avoiding state's sales tax.(For now)
 

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Trying to confirm story in the Cleveland Plain Dealer and can't. (at least not yet). http://www.cleveland.com/plaindealer/

The Crossroads site merely repeats the same info from the Manna site, so you are repeating a press release by the guys who were shut down. Rest of you are agreeing and reacting to a press release. So far, give cops the benefit of the doubt.......

Compare above post to the more measued and critical reactions on the The Tree of Liberty Site: http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=39147&page=3[/url]


From "Tree of Liberty webite"

"I agree, critical to have an independent link on this one. If true, this is more than disturbing.

But things become viral so quickly on the internet that the appearance of this article "everywhere" could just be a bit of
misinformation/faulty information moving too quickly to verify or correct it. Any of us could spread any piece of information
we wanted everywhere within 24 hours - but how quickly a piece of information spreads itself over the Internet isn't a
measure of truth at all..

If anyone has more verification, it is essential to post it - the full story needs to be told and verified. Obviously just on the
face of what was posted, this is not a good thing IF true."

and

"I'm searching area newspapers in LaGrange, Ohio.
But cannot find anything posted yet.w "

Our posters above are responding to what is in essence a press release from the Manna storehouse. Geez.

Every post above beleives the Manna story, except for Salatheel who thinks its a sign of the end of the world.
This is true-separate confrimation is a must to know the truth. Never believe only one source (even this one-sorry!)
 

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From the Lorain (OH) Morning Journal, Dec. 3, 2008

http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2008/12/03/news/mj309059.txt

A very matter of fact story about a warrant being served. The Stowers may have been uncooperative with the ODA in the past.

A poster on another blog site personally called the Lorain County Sherriff's Dept. and was told that there was no Swat team request for this event. They said that they sent four duputies with the ODA official, which is not terribly unusual for this type of warrant, especially if the Stowers had been less than friendly in the past.

If the Stowers story is true, I will gladly join in the outrage expressed on this thread, the Morning Journal comments, and the blogosphere in general. I just do not believe this story has been fully disclosed as of yet.

Let's wait and see,

Mr R
 

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You know why the SWAT team was sent.....because anyone not working within the 'normal' channels is either survivalist/militia types loaded to the teeth with guns (assumed) and they wanted to be prepared.....you know how kooky people with guns are......


Someday that rational will be true and a SWAT team is going to get wiped out doing something they shouldn't have been doing in the first place and we are going to see the government backpedaling like crazy to cover it up.
 
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