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Simplicity is the key...... Love it. If I had kids, this would be the way I would go.

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I don't think I'm going to put something in my gun that will lock it up.

Just saying.

You can do the same thing with an Air Bullet. I have them for Free. Just pay $199.99 Shipping and handling.

If you want to save children - pay more attention to cars and pools. Guns simply are not the problem.

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This looks like a very good device and is something I will be ordering with two kids at home. I guess nothing is better than education, but this will help with other mishaps.
 

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Sounds great, but who is going to wake up in the middle of the night to an intruder and have the presence of mind to cycle rounds? Who is going to call "Time Out" to an attacker on the street so they can cycle DEAD BULLETS out of their gun. What happens if you do forget in the heat of the moment and lock your own gun? You will be beat to death by your own gun when the thug comes and takes it from you, because he is not going to give you the time to dig the push rod from your pocket to free up your gun.

Sorry, the best way to keep your kids from killing themselves or others with your guns is A.) Dont store them loaded with small children in the house.
B.) Teach proper gun safety to kids starting at an early age.
C.) Tear their butts up when they start fooling with guns without permission and supervision.
 

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911...This post was not an endorsement for welding your gun safe shut.
This device dose not lock up your gun unless fired. To use your gun simply rack the slide and eject the safety device.
IF someone dose gain access to your weapon and fires it, then and only then will it "lock up".
Education is the key...Sadly times have changed, and not every on is educated on gun safety.
They don't come any more pro-gun than me...If I had kids... that had friends...I would have this device installed in my house guns, just cause...
Remember...Ya can't fix stupid!!!
 

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If you want to save children - pay more attention to cars and pools. Guns simply are not the problem.

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Don't think this safety device is all that great. He's assuming a child can't or won't rack the slide themselves for some reason. If a child wasn't able to rack the slide, then you could just keep a loaded magazine in the gun without a round in the chamber.
 

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If you want to save children - pay more attention to cars and pools. Guns simply are not the problem.

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Ditto.

Sorry, the best way to keep your kids from killing themselves or others with your guns is A.) Dont store them loaded with small children in the house.
B.) Teach proper gun safety to kids starting at an early age.
C.) Tear their butts up when they start fooling with guns without permission and supervision.
And ditto with emphasis on B and teaching gun safety includes taking the kids out to shoot. I was taught very young how to shoot a gun.

What 'kills kids' is parents shielding guns from the kids or rather shielding the kids from the guns. Kids are curious just like adults...take them out and teach them.
 

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growing up i can count on one hand how many times i was allowed in my parents bedroom. it was their PRIVATE area. we were allowed only in our own bedrooms, besides the living rm and the rest of the house .of course. also when grownups talked you better be scarce , thats what causes alot of the problems with guns children ARE NOT taught BOUNDRIES. Alot of today,s problem would not be in society if this would be taught. Brats running around restuarants , kids knowing what you thought of people ,(my dad said your dad ,ETC). believe me only You think your children are cute when they tell you NO. I.ll quit ranting now . the original point, the weapons where kept in our parents room .Taught safety by our dad.
 

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I was 5 years old when I got my first Red Rider BB gun. Yes, I made mistakes, yes I got in trouble, but it laid the ground work for shooting the .22 single shot when I was 7. That built up to the 30-30 Winchester when I was 8 and so on. By the time I was 12 I was using a 20 gauge shotgun to squirrel hunt alone and it was a matter of asking Dad to use his 30-30 for climbing in tree stands alone.

I have taught my oldest son (soon to be 15) the same way, though his mother does not have the faith in him that I have, and I will teach the 3yr old the same way. Its worked so far.
 

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Do some research on the company and the product before sending any money their way...

Questionable marketing practices and an ******* for a CEO (personal opinion of course) = me not sending a dime their way.

Not that I believe in the product in the first place, anyone in fear for their life is not going to remember to cycle their weapon, and will render their #1 method of self defense inoperable.
 

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Sounds great, but who is going to wake up in the middle of the night to an intruder and have the presence of mind to cycle rounds? Who is going to call "Time Out" to an attacker on the street so they can cycle DEAD BULLETS out of their gun. What happens if you do forget in the heat of the moment and lock your own gun? You will be beat to death by your own gun when the thug comes and takes it from you, because he is not going to give you the time to dig the push rod from your pocket to free up your gun.

Sorry, the best way to keep your kids from killing themselves or others with your guns is A.) Dont store them loaded with small children in the house.
B.) Teach proper gun safety to kids starting at an early age.
C.) Tear their butts up when they start fooling with guns without permission and supervision.
I agree with you. Had an uncle that kept all his loaded and on safe. saw us pick it up once when we found it. didn't point or anything. He stopped showed up how to hand a pistol over safely then showed us a round straight out of the weapon. After that we never thought it was a toy again. he let us know what it was and what it could do. Education is key!
 

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I gun proofed my kids so I didn't need to kid proof my guns....they were exposed very young and understood/respected them....they have their guns in their rooms and our guns are not put away where they are useless to us if we needed them in an emergency.


We taught them how to shoot young and they were always shooting with us....I was taught the same way and I know from when I was a child I knew what they did and what they were capable of and never had the urge to go play with them.
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I ran across this: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...sg=AFQjCNGNTIBxIQEwELu5GD4cGOU0Z5LzXg&cad=rja
If you own a semi-auto and have kids, this is the ticket.
This looks like a very good device and is something I will be ordering with two kids at home. I guess nothing is better than education, but this will help with other mishaps.
Man... Personally I think it is stupid. What if you pulled the trigger instead of racking the slide. What if you "forgot" you had a dummy in there. What if your kid sets it off without telling you and it is locked... THEN you have a burglar. Gonna take the time to bang it with a stick to make it work again?

Sorry more trouble than it is worth if you ask me.
 

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we have 5 kids. and several time that many guns in the house. Every one of my kids knows how to safe, load ,fire ,clean and strip any gun here. The youngest is 7 and he has been shooting for 3 years. You can trace almost every kid/gun problem back to A.D.D. A Dumba** Dad. Start young and keep on it. I can really talk to my 16 yr daughter and 17 yr son when we are at our shooting range in the back 40 and many other problems have been avoided there because of the closeness of the shooting.
 

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I was 5 years old when I got my first Red Rider BB gun. Yes, I made mistakes, yes I got in trouble, but it laid the ground work for shooting the .22 single shot when I was 7. That built up to the 30-30 Winchester when I was 8 and so on. By the time I was 12 I was using a 20 gauge shotgun to squirrel hunt alone and it was a matter of asking Dad to use his 30-30 for climbing in tree stands alone.

I have taught my oldest son (soon to be 15) the same way, though his mother does not have the faith in him that I have, and I will teach the 3yr old the same way. Its worked so far.
Good on Ya! I grew up around firearms and learned to respect them at a very early age. When my daughters were 3 and 6, I bought a Marlin 795 with the intent of teaching them about firearms. They were allowed to handle it, see it and were taught how it works but it was always out of reach. By the time they were 8 and 11, they knew how to operate it and maintain it and had never fired a single round through it.
We went to a friends house that summer and he invited us shooting. The girls were very exited but I hadn't brought the .22. My friend offered to bring out his AK47 and AR15. They were allowed to fire those weapons at cans and targets. The adults were all very impressed at how careful they were about observing firearm safety and how well they handled the weapons. The older one used the AK and the younger one used the AR. They had yet to fire their .22. Neither girl is the least bit "recoil shy". They wanted centerfires after that. After a lot of thought, I bought the older one a Romanian SKS and the younger one an SU16. Now the older one still uses and loves her battlescarred SKS, but the younger one started using my AR and decided it was hers so I allowed her to keep it and bought another one.
They both enjoy the .22, but prefer the centerfires. They have become very responsible and are allowed to keep their weapons and ammo in their rooms unless we have to leave as a family and then they go into the safe.

At 13 and 16, they are allowed to handle their weapons unsupervised as during the summer, they are at home alone while the wife and I are at work. After all, what good is a weapon if it's locked up when someone kicks your door in.

I am a FIRM believer that kids should be introduced to firearms and driving motor vehicles at an early age. I feel that doing so has made mine more responsible and aids in developing good decision making skills and thinking skills.

Just my opinion.
 

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This looks like a very good device and is something I will be ordering with two kids at home. I guess nothing is better than education, but this will help with other mishaps.
What happens in a bad situation?
You really have to be practised with clearing the plug round before you are able to fire.

Sounds like bad ju-ju to me, unless you really worry about the kids.

Training is probably a better alternative in my house.
 
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