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Rep. Spencer Bachus of Alabama stood up today and said "When does it end? When do we stop bailing out everyone? When we run out of money? I'm afraid if we continue this, the American people will rise up and stop us."

Hallelujah! Someone finally realizes the American people have had enough! :thumb:
 

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HUZZAH!

Now if tomorrow one more would join the ranks, and then another and another. THEN we might be getting somewhere!

We should all email Mr Bachus and congratulate him on a job well done.
 

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Not going to happen. These people are drunk on power and their belief that they can do no wrong. Plus much as the American sheep blindly obey the government, the government blindly obeys their masters in the big corporations.
 

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Sounds to me like he is saying, "Lets not be greedy and kick it down a few notches before Americans kick us out of our comfy seats".
 

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I think they are antagonizing the Americans to rise up because they want martial law.

The reality is the government does not care a bit about the people. There are 325 million people in the USA and they all want their American dream. A lot of them look to the government for that dream. The fact is the government would like to initiate martial law. put the instant beggars in FEMA camps and let nature take its course. If they could get the population to 1 million that would be easily managed and just the right amount of slaves to tend to the ultra rich peoples every need.

The USA could be one big plantation.
 

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easy for you to say..

Rep. Spencer Bachus of Alabama stood up today and said "When does it end? When do we stop bailing out everyone? When we run out of money? I'm afraid if we continue this, the American people will rise up and stop us."
You've not considered the implications of the Big 3 failing,it would effect 1 of 10 workers through out the country,it'll likely get to you..if it don't effect you,it'll effect your sister/mother/aunt/grandma/grandpa/neighbor/barber/candlestick maker/coffee maker,or your family...ya'all gotta realize it's an economic war and to survive,you must buy American made products.If you don't understand that,Chinese will soon be taking over( that ain't good by the way...:(
 

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good man --probably wont last long now tho

wonder ifn ah can git ACORN ta register me 6 or 30 times to vote in his dist?
he is gonna need tha help.
 
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Didja ever think about anyone but yourself..??

Rep. Spencer Bachus of Alabama stood up today and said "When does it end? When do we stop bailing out everyone? When we run out of money?
So,they can give $700 billion to the crooked bankers,but turn their backs on UAW auto workers for a $25 billion LOAN at 11% interest...??pleeze...Ya'all ain't even thinkin'...these are your people...not Asians making trucks for $3 a day..!!It's called nationalization,get familiar with it,if not for you...for your childrens future...!!:

 

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So,they can give $700 billion to the crooked bankers,but turn their backs on UAW auto workers for a $25 billion LOAN at 11% interest...??pleeze...Ya'all ain't even thinkin'...these are your people..!!It's called nationalization,get familiar with it,if not for you...for your childrens future...!!:

I was against the FIRST bail out :mad:

Lou Dobbs had it right when he said the money should trickle UP! Any bail out is just plain wrong. Since when were we not responsible for our own actions? Is this the way it's going to be? Everyone feeling entitled? We allow kids to play sports even though they aren't good enough 'cause no one wants to hurt their feelings. We pass kids in school because you don't want the kids to feel like failures. We give money to women to sit at home and spit out kids.
WHEN WILL IT STOP?
If you put your time in the working force, you have every right to feel entitled to get that money back. That's why they take FICA and Federal taxes out of my and your checks. I worked my ass off for the American dream and "thinking" :confused: social security will be there when it's time for me to collect.

And lets face the honest truth here: Americans are greedy. It's one thing to want to make a living wage and be able to pay your bills and save some money for a rainy day or be able to put your kids through college & take a vacation each year.
No where does it state you MUST make $25 - $75 per hour, take your vacations to lavish resorts, spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars a night on hotel rooms, live in a mansion, own a ferrari, etc.
Stop demanding an outrageous amount of money to put a damn hot wheel car together and maybe our jobs wouldn't GO overseas.

They are mortgaging OUR future, the kids future and probably grand-children's future.
They deserve what they get if they can't produce a product that competes with other Countries. Those CEO's have reaped the benefits in the past years and now because they didn't keep up with the times, WE should bail them out?

GIVE ME A FRIGGIN BREAK! :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

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American cars & trucks..great for you,great 4 the USA

So,they can give $700 billion to the crooked bankers,but turn their backs on UAW auto workers for a $25 billion LOAN at 11% interest...??pleeze...Ya'all ain't even thinkin'...these are your people,not some Chinese makin' rice burnin' junk..!!It's called nationalization,get familiar with it,if not for you...for your childrens future...!!:


Since when were we not responsible for our own actions? Everyone feeling entitled?We pass kids in school because you don't want the kids to feel like failures. We give money to women to sit at home and spit out kids.*we do..??*
WHEN WILL IT STOP?*When people go back to buying American made products*
If you put your time in the working force, you have every right to feel entitled to get that money back. That's why they take FICA and Federal taxes out of my and your checks. I worked my ass off for the American dream and "thinking" :confused: social security will be there when it's time for me to collect.*I worked my ass off also & I'm hopin' it's gonn be there too*

No where does it state you MUST make $25- $75 per hour, take your vacations to lavish resorts, spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars a night on hotel rooms, live in a mansion, own a ferrari, etc.Stop demanding an outrageous amount of money to put a damn hot wheel car together and maybe our jobs wouldn't GO overseas.*All of your underlined text is inaccurate,most UAW members make about $22-26/hr.Hardly an amount for luxury hotels,Ferraris,mansions,etc.*

They are mortgaging OUR future, the kids future and probably grand-children's future.*Please read the details of the bailout...did you forget it's a LOAN..?* ??Big 3 gotta pay it back at 11% interest.
They deserve what they get if they can't produce a product that competes with other Countries.
Some of the higher paying skilled UAW jobs are a result of bargaining(ie;cheaper to have the work done at the facility,rather than sending it out)Makes economic sense to management..because most outside shops charge about $60-$80 per hour,why not have your own tradesmen do it for $30-32/hour..?)Incidently two of my neighbors are skilled UAW members..raising a family & hardly rich by anyones standards.
The current trouble is a result of an economic storm.... the Big 3 didn't see it coming,remember it was just two years ago when gas was cheap,the consuming public couldn't get enough F-150s,Dodge Rams,Chevy Tahoe type vehicles...automakers were churning 'em out & almost everyone wanted one(or two).Then,gas prices spiked & almost overnight,the market for big trucks shriveled...to make matters worse,the recession hit,forcing everyone to cut back on big ticket purchases'...the demand for big trucks almost stopped.So...it will take money & time to make the transition to make smaller vehicles(it takes 18-20 months for R & D,market studies,then tooling up for a new product.)

Recent J.D. Power studies have proven that quality between Detroits' products & Asian manufacturers is almost immeasurable...(in some cases like the Ford Focus,it's actually better than Toyota.)I can dig up the J.D. Power study info for proof if so desired... :)

So,I guess that outlines the most important reasons why the government should bail out(provide loans to) the Big 3.
1.Government gets paid back with interest,so they have more money than before the loans...*thats a good thing,ain't it..?*
2.It keeps American people on the payroll,paying income taxes..!!(No explaination required)
3.This country was built on it's industrial might...a world leader for decades,anything less will have the USA falling into third world status,it'll be a long time comin',but the Asians are patient...they will wait until everyone is in bankruptcy,& then step in to buy it all at fire sale prices,then they will have us where they really want us...subserviant to their demands...so,personally I view buying habits as a patriotic issue,don't get me wrong,I have a house full of Japanese/Chinese/Korean electronic equipment,but all my vehicle purchases will be 'made in the good 'ol U.S. of America.'
4.Please consider,if another 10 million people lose their jobs as a result of the Big 3 failing,these people won't be paying income taxes or have Social Security deductions to the Government..maybe you should think about what that could do to the SS System.Domino effect..??Possibly.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/11/13/news/economy/jobless_claims/index.htm


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27471280/
 

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If anyone thinks that the government is going to fix the problem you are mistaken. The only way to fix the problem is get rid of the federal reserve. Our elected officials will not even consider this because the federal reserve owns the world. It is no longer about money. The federal reserve banks are attempting to globalize the economy as you read this which will essentially removes our sovereignty as a free country. They own all the money. It is about control of the population. It is about making the people slaves. They don’t bail out the auto makers because they do not care about the auto makers. They sell cars to the people and the people will not need cars once they have control over them.

What is important to them power and the ability to maintain it. That is what the bailout was designed to do. It has nothing to do with fixing the economy. The federal reserve used 2 trillion dollars and will not disclose where the money went. That should tell you something. Don’t wait for them to save the economy. They have no intention in doing so.

Buy a rifle for every able body in you home and stock up on ammo. If you love your country then that is what will need to happen. Just the threat may make them back down. If you think anything else will do please let everyone know about it before they take everyone’s 401K. That is on the table. If that happens then we will all need to look to the government to live in our old age and all that hard work to save for retirement will be for not.

I hope this makes you mad — I hope you buy some guns — I hope you educate yourself your daughters and your sons! …Song lyrics I heard somewhere?
 

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This is all 100% planned. The collapse of the dollar and the stock market. The depression that is enveloping us. The nuclear 9-11 that is due at any moment. The civil war that will follow. And then WW#3. Out of the ashes they will be left with a more manageable amount of slaves.
 

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How many people who frequent this sight have read George Orwell's books "1984" and "Animal farm"....My friends, these books are truly Prophesy.....Socialism in its raw form.....and sadly us in a few years......
 

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Spencer Bachus voted for the BIG BAILOUT both times. Check the record. He got so many threats he's scared. Adderholt was the only AL rep. to vote against it both times. Alabama senators Shelby and Sessions both voted against it too.
 
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