[Bosco Warden]

Found this while posting in the Fukushima thread, looks promising. Also this is the same material that they are dumping in the Pacific right now off the coast of Japan.

 

[Bosco Warden]

Here is an article by Natural News, talking about Zoelite's and something for consumption called Bentonite clay.

http://www.naturalnews.com/032179_Fukushima_zeolites.html

From Bobzilla

some links for you to get some thoughts on........give more later night
note : Zeolites have uses in advanced reprocessing methods, where their micro-porous ability to capture some ions while allowing others to pass freely allow many fission products to be efficiently removed from nuclear waste and permanently trapped. Equally important are the mineral properties of zeolites. Their alumino-silicate construction is extremely durable and resistant to radiation even in porous form. Additionally, once they are loaded with trapped fission products, the zeolite-waste combination can be hot pressed into an extremely durable ceramic form, closing the pores and trapping the waste in a solid stone block. This is a waste form factor that greatly reduces its hazard compared to conventional reprocessing systems.[6] An example of use is that sandbags of zeolite were dropped into the seawater near the Fukushima nuclear plant to adsorb radioactive cesium that was present there in high levels


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeolite

http://www.dustless.com/beta/zeolite.htm

http://filtcofilters.com/specifications.php

http://www.ampac1.com/filter_media.htm

 

[Bosco Warden]

My thought is creating a two stage system using schedule 40 PVC pipe, with two separate chambers, one for Bio/chem filtration and the second chamber with this Zeolite compound. Not sure which order this should be yet, and unfortunately I dont have a meter to even do basic testing.

I'm going to home depot tomorrow, and make this sucker, I'll post what I mean.

:xeye:

 

[CrypticCRICKET]

My thought is creating a two stage system using schedule 40 PVC pipe, with two separate chambers, one for Bio/chem filtration and the second chamber with this Zeolite compound.
I'm going to home depot tomorrow, and make this sucker, I'll post what I mean.

:xeye:

Awesome!

You gotta post pics or video or it didn't happen dude :. If you decide to add activated charcoal, the pet stores typically have that in half gallon milk cartons for like $10-$15. Today at the pet store I even saw something that may have been a Zeolite/ activated charcoal mixture in half gallon milk cartons. The ingredient list didn't say what the ammonia absorber was.

I've been thinking of doing something similar using a ceramic aquarium air stone as the final filtering stage after the Zeolite.
Ceramic aquarium air stones are pretty tight. Check out the flow rate in this example:

 

[W.Lynn]

Someone answer something please? This is on topic, and I know we have lots of experts and armchair cowboys around who should already know this - if I understand correctly, actual pure water does not, itself, become radioactive, that any radiation will be due to contaminated particles carried by the water?

If that is correct, then I would put some hope (may not be perfect, but every step should help) in multi-stage filtering. Cloth to catch big particles, filter sand, activated charcoal, the zeolite stuff if I ever have any, ceramic filters, whatever I can put together. Any hydro or nuclear engineering types, please advise?

 

[Jungleboy]

Would'nt matter any how, since you'de have a radioactive filter to deal with disposing anyhow.

Do you want to handle said radioactive filter. I don't.

 

[W.Lynn]

Would'nt matter any how, since you'de have a radioactive filter to deal with disposing anyhow.

Do you want to handle said radioactive filter. I don't.

Beats having my grandkids drink that stuff. I've had my life and my good times, now my efforts are to make sure they get theirs.

 

[Bosco Warden]

Would'nt matter any how, since you'de have a radioactive filter to deal with disposing anyhow.

Do you want to handle said radioactive filter. I don't.

The design I am going to build would have two maybe three separate stage that would connect together to make one, then you would just have to remove and replace the one section that is at capacity.

There is no silver bullet but this should be an easier way to focus the radioactive material and dispose of.

also assume that if its in your filter then its something you would have drank, would you rather touch it or drink it?

 

[panhapp]

Are you guys too cheap to spend $300 - $400 to put a reverse osmoses filter under your sink? This is a no-brainer. I have

had one filtering my cooking/drinking water and ice for 12 years. We have hog farms within three miles and don’t drink water

that isn’t ro filtered. It will take any radio active particles out.

Pan

 

[Alligatorgars]

In a full blown shtf hot zone the only way to have clean water is having it already stored or bugging out of the area (unless you are Oprah rich and have a state of the art bunker complete with filtering systems, power systems, 10 yrs worth of food and water, a doctor on staff, a cook, a maid). To stay is to die. Japan should give you an example of radiation and the downfalls of having it contaminate an area. 200 miles in another direction might be clean, are you going to stay?

 

[SamboRoberts]

There is no silver bullet but this should be an easier way to focus the radioactive material and dispose of.

Just so long as you remember the problems with focussing the radioactive material.

Just ask those who were living at Nagasaki and Hiroshima in 1945.

Remember the critical mass!

 

[Bosco Warden]

Are you guys too cheap to spend $300 - $400 to put a reverse osmoses filter under your sink? This is a no-brainer. I have

had one filtering my cooking/drinking water and ice for 12 years. We have hog farms within three miles and don’t drink water

that isn’t ro filtered. It will take any radio active particles out.

Pan

I've looked at the RO system's from Merlin but it saying nothing about radiation. Which system do you have?

I would like to check it out.

Thanks

 

[panhapp]

CrypticCricket asked how to filter radiation from his drinking water. He didn’t say anything about bugging out. However I’m building a portable ro system. I know it wont fit in a backpack But I’m not walking anywhere.

As far as “focusing the radioactive” material. Just change the prefilters before it gets to “hot”.

Pan

 

[Bosco Warden]

In a full blown shtf hot zone the only way to have clean water is having it already stored or bugging out of the area (unless you are Oprah rich and have a state of the art bunker complete with filtering systems, power systems, 10 yrs worth of food and water, a doctor on staff, a cook, a maid). To stay is to die. Japan should give you an example of radiation and the downfalls of having it contaminate an area. 200 miles in another direction might be clean, are you going to stay?

I'm talking about filtering my house water right now, would also work in an shtf scenario depending on what it looks like.
But with the EPA/FDA raising the limit because it suits them to do so rather telling everyone there is a danger, I'm not buying it. They are playing the odds, but my health is in the balance. So I dont think so.

This isnt background radiation, and if this was from some dirty bomb by a terrorists then the country would be looking at this very differently. Ceasium, Strontium, Plutonium, Iodine 121,122 doesnt play favorites, its nuclear waste. Japanese or otherwise.

Just so long as you remember the problems with focussing the radioactive material.

Just ask those who were living at Nagasaki and Hiroshima in 1945.

Remember the critical mass!

I'm not sure where you are going with this, I understand as I said this isnt a silver bullet, and might even be a long shot. My thinking is simple, most of these elements are positively charged, Zeolite is a negatively charged element so they attract each other. Also if Chernobyl is to used as example then this is what is available and been tried and proven to work.

Also, I'm not going to put this filter under my bed or anyplace where I spend any amount of time. This is probably going to go someplace as remote as I can get within reason for it to work.

As I said, if its in the filter then it was on its way in to begin with, drink it cook with it, coffee etc.....

This is all pretty much playing the odds, but at least I have a better idea of what these odds are.

 

[Chey's Daddy]

yep a broken record.

use zeolites, activated carbon, and other natural substances will help rid radiation. the more stages of filtration the better quality of water, more structure/energy can be added back to water. try to mimic earth best you can to get best quality water,

or get water from naturally force fed spring and go from there.


paul staments has successfully cleaned contaminated(bacteria) water coming onto and leaving his property with mushroom innoculations in the water ways coming and leaving the property

 

[panhapp]

Bosco the one I have is a Liquatec. Google revierse osmosis. Let me know if you have trouble getting one as I can get one for you. I would put a regular cartdrige filter in front of the ro. The cleaner the water is to the ro the longer the filters last.

Pan

 

[Bosco Warden]

Someone answer something please? This is on topic, and I know we have lots of experts and armchair cowboys around who should already know this - if I understand correctly, actual pure water does not, itself, become radioactive, that any radiation will be due to contaminated particles carried by the water?

If that is correct, then I would put some hope (may not be perfect, but every step should help) in multi-stage filtering. Cloth to catch big particles, filter sand, activated charcoal, the zeolite stuff if I ever have any, ceramic filters, whatever I can put together. Any hydro or nuclear engineering types, please advise?

I am not hydro or nuclear tech but that is what I am going to try and do. It is going to be a staged filter.

 

[Bosco Warden]

Bosco the one I have is a Liquatec. Google revierse osmosis. Let me know if you have trouble getting one as I can get one for you. I would put a regular cartdrige filter in front of the ro. The cleaner the water is to the ro the longer the filters last.

Pan

Thanks Pan, there is also the SHTF scenario that if or when a shtf happens I will have already tested this system out. RO is going to be pretty hard do after shtf.

also, I am not seeing any documentation saying anything about radioactive particles being filter by an RO system.

Thanks for the link.

 

[panhapp]

Maybe try to look under remove radiation from water I saw it at 2 or 3

places. There are two concerns with a portable ro. One is It takes I think 3

gallons to make 1. I'll be working with a well so that's not a prblem. I'm sure I

can find use for the waste water.

The second thing is that you have to force water through the system

under pressure. I am going to use a 12v pump into a pressure tank, then into

the ro.

Pan