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Has anyone seen this mask and have an opinion
https://simplediscountfinder.com/ox...ed States&c1=US&sxid=dlvjo2rg8b0p603t1k8khr5k
https://simplediscountfinder.com/ox...ed States&c1=US&sxid=dlvjo2rg8b0p603t1k8khr5k
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Complete and utter hoax. No mention of how that mask will last more than a day's worth of wearing, and filtration levels aren't disclosed.
If you look like you are considering ordering you get pop-ups claiming "James" or "Diane" or some such person just ordered one. They are purportedly going out the door at the rate of 1 every 20 seconds.
It looks like a winter breath warmer mask that can be purchased for under $30. Yes, have one in this house. They are not intended nor designed to be viral protective.
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If you look like you are considering ordering you get pop-ups claiming "James" or "Diane" or some such person just ordered one. They are purportedly going out the door at the rate of 1 every 20 seconds.
It looks like a winter breath warmer mask that can be purchased for under $30. Yes, have one in this house. They are not intended nor designed to be viral protective.
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Agreed.
It's at times like this, that these scams happen. And the old warning of "buyer beware" becomes especially significant.
The more the shortage and/or panic, it seems the number of hoaxes and scams increase in direct proportion.
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P.T. Barnum must feel very proud of himself........
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They are PM2.5 rated
They aren't worth the price though.
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This mask makes the claim "Nano Technology Dust-Free Air Filter PM2.5" which makes this effectively a "smog filter"... People who buy these live in places that have air quality in their area that exceeds 2.5 parts per million, hence the use of the term "PM2.5". It's a comfort mask.
If one is purchasing to protect from COVID-19, then you are buying a "respirator".. not a mask.
The difference is not how it looks, but in what it filters.
An N-95 respirator is one of nine types of disposable particulate respirators. Particulate respirators are also known as “air-purifying respirators” because they protect by filtering particles out of the air as you breathe. These respirators protect only against particles—not gases or vapors. Since airborne biological agents such as bacteria or viruses are particles, they can be filtered by particulate respirators.
Respirators that filter out at least 95% of airborne particles during “worse case” testing using a “most-penetrating” sized particle are given a 95 rating. Those that filter out at least 99% receive a “99” rating. And those that filter at least 99.97% (essentially 100%) receive a “100” rating.
Respirators in this family are rated as N, R, or P for protection against oils. This rating is important in industry because some industrial oils can degrade the filter performance so it doesn’t filter properly.* Respirators are rated:
“N,” if they are not resistant to oil,
“R” if somewhat resistant to oil, and
“P” if strongly resistant (oil Proof).
Thus, there are nine types of disposable particulate respirators:
N-95, N-99, and N-100;
R-95, R-99, and R-100;
P-95, P-99, and P-100
This is a VERY GOOD 2 page 3m PDF that clearly articulates the differences between Respirators and Masks.
I'd encourage everyone to read it.
https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media...masks.pdf?fn=Respirator vs Surgical Mask flye
If one is purchasing to protect from COVID-19, then you are buying a "respirator".. not a mask.
The difference is not how it looks, but in what it filters.
An N-95 respirator is one of nine types of disposable particulate respirators. Particulate respirators are also known as “air-purifying respirators” because they protect by filtering particles out of the air as you breathe. These respirators protect only against particles—not gases or vapors. Since airborne biological agents such as bacteria or viruses are particles, they can be filtered by particulate respirators.
Respirators that filter out at least 95% of airborne particles during “worse case” testing using a “most-penetrating” sized particle are given a 95 rating. Those that filter out at least 99% receive a “99” rating. And those that filter at least 99.97% (essentially 100%) receive a “100” rating.
Respirators in this family are rated as N, R, or P for protection against oils. This rating is important in industry because some industrial oils can degrade the filter performance so it doesn’t filter properly.* Respirators are rated:
“N,” if they are not resistant to oil,
“R” if somewhat resistant to oil, and
“P” if strongly resistant (oil Proof).
Thus, there are nine types of disposable particulate respirators:
N-95, N-99, and N-100;
R-95, R-99, and R-100;
P-95, P-99, and P-100
This is a VERY GOOD 2 page 3m PDF that clearly articulates the differences between Respirators and Masks.
I'd encourage everyone to read it.
https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media...masks.pdf?fn=Respirator vs Surgical Mask flye
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That is not what that number means:
What is PM2.5 and Why You Should Care | Bliss Air
https://blissair.com/what-is-pm-2-5.htm
PM2.5 refers to atmospheric particulate matter (PM) that have a diameter of less than 2.5 micrometers, which is about 3% the diameter of a human hair.
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I stand corrected. :thumb:
It's generally believed that COVID-19 is 125 nanometers in diameter, which is equal to .125 micrometers.
IMHO that 2.5micrometer non-NIOSH certified comfort mask is still useless....
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This thread has become very informational. I had already bought P100 Half Mask for the family enough back up filter P100 to go for months. I was looking to pick up some additional in case mask and or incase an unexpected person stop by.
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All those cheap and paper masks are going to a red light district with used balloons.
There are a multitude of new protective masks on ebay. Ive had mine for decades, Mrs Wires was $45 on ebay.
Filters are another thing. I buy ones that stop everything. About $120 a six pack of them.
You dont need those, all you need is industrial filters that stop 99.9% of Organic vapor.
About $30 a pair.
My bro has been an NBC officer in the military and in civie land. He says even these are an over kill. I like over kill.
There are a multitude of new protective masks on ebay. Ive had mine for decades, Mrs Wires was $45 on ebay.
Filters are another thing. I buy ones that stop everything. About $120 a six pack of them.
You dont need those, all you need is industrial filters that stop 99.9% of Organic vapor.
About $30 a pair.
My bro has been an NBC officer in the military and in civie land. He says even these are an over kill. I like over kill.
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