buy 2 srk's. no matter how durable, they can be lost/stole/confescated, or break after there are no more warrantees and no more to be had.
F�llkniven A1 vs. Cold Steel SRK
Fällkniven A1 vs. Cold Steel SRK
Opinions? I'm talking about what I can buy new today, not old models (so please don't compare to a carbon v model of the srk which i cannot buy new). I don't mind suggestions on other knives you may prefer, but please at least end the replay with a vote for one of these two (if these were the two you needed to pick from). Intended usage = wilderness survival.
Tx!
Adam
Opinions? I'm talking about what I can buy new today, not old models (so please don't compare to a carbon v model of the srk which i cannot buy new). I don't mind suggestions on other knives you may prefer, but please at least end the replay with a vote for one of these two (if these were the two you needed to pick from). Intended usage = wilderness survival.
Tx!
Adam
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i love knife snob threads lol. i mean are you really trying to say that a SRK would not last? that it would not do anything you ask of it?
i notice that you didnt answer my questions to you.I'm not a knife snob Sir.
The poster asked a question & I gave an answer.
Thanks for your valuable contribution.
Cliff
not really. either knife will last forever if treated kindly, either one will eventually fail if abused.The SRK would last. The A1 would last longer.
Would the SRK do anything I asked of it? Maybe,but why take that chance?
Do you actually think the newer SRKs are the same quality as the Fallknivens?
If so,I'd love to hear why.
I think that's what the OP was getting at. You know...which is the better knife. You understood that...right?
Not which one he should buy 2 of in case one breaks or gets confiscated or anything like that.
Did I answer your questions satisfactorily?
Cliff
the SRK will do ANYTHING that could possibly be expected of it.
the way i see it a knife in the SRK's class will basically outperform the user. so if any knife is somewhat better, but at a much higher cost, its just a waste.
its fine if you wanna testify how amazing and great the A1 is, but to bash the SRK likes its some POS is absurd. its about who spent more, we buy bragging rights in this society.
I'm really sorry that you're so poor that you have to relegate your purchases to cheap stuff and abuse those of us who can afford something a little better...
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lol now we get to the heart of the matter. like i said, all these public forum discussions about what knife trumps what knife is just a way for one rich prick (or wanna be rich prick this is the internet afterall) to announce to a group that he buys "nothing but the best" "im big time" "im major league" "check me out". its just chest puffing on the interwebs. exagerated reasons and the classic "you gonna trust your life to a measily $100 knife when there are $500 knives?"
kev did a video reviewing a $20 gerber knife and gave it good marks. does that make him poor? does that make him a jerkoff who doesnt know anything about knives?
and i could easily afford this A1, but you could NEVER convince me its worth the extra cash. i have my reasons, and you have yours. oh well.
personaly i wouldnt spend over $100 on any knife.........because it a KNIFE.Okay...Okay...I'll be a knife snob if it will make trixie happy.
Still working on the rich prick thing though.
In the meantime trixie,would you be so kind as to educate us with your reasons for feeling that the A1 isn't worth more money than the SRK?
I for one would really appreciate your in depth insite as to why you feel that way.
Maybe that will help get this thread back on track.
Thank You...
Cliff
for anywheres up to $100 you can buy a fantastic knife. to spend more is because you want to. pure and simple. you can justify it any way you want, with nit-picky little details or reasons, but its just because you want to. i'd rather have spares. will or somebody gave an example of what if you had to pound the knife into a wall and use it for a step to get over the wall............well if thats the case you arent getting the knife back, i'd rather have another to replace it.
how about this: you have 2 diamonds of the same karat size. 1 diamond cost $1000. the second diamond through some analysis is 10% more pure than the first, but cost $10,000. (and forget the resale argument, if your reselling your knife then you never used it in which case you totally wasted your money anyways)
see what im saying? one technically is better, but not practically better.
see what im saying? one technically is better, but not practically better.
OR...how about THIS:
You have 2 knives.
One that costs around $80 & one that costs a little less than twice that much. Not 10 X more,as in your diamond scenario.
The $80.00 knife is actually more like an overpriced $20.00 knife & the more expensive knife is more like an overpriced $100.00 knife.
(HEY..knife companies need to make a profit too...)
The reason you have these knives is to help you save your butt in case you get into a situation where equipment failure would be a very,very bad thing.
Or maybe you use the knife as a tool for your job.
Could be that you're just done with the whole tactical/ninja thing & want to use good quality stuff now.
Which would you rather depend on?
More to the point,just using trixies limit of $100.00 for a knife,how about we all look at what knives we can buy for $100.00 or less that you would actually be willing to depend on in whatever your idea of a survival situation is.
I can think of quite a few makers & manufacturers that would get my money before some of the others.
Might make for some interesting & helpfull discussion.
trixie has already answered,I think,but there might be something he wants to add.
Looking forward to everyones thoughts.
Cliff
thats fair, and a great idea too.
i'd love to hear examples of situations/ uses where a A+++ quality knife would expected to make a difference over a B quality knife. better than "it would hold an edge better" like real examples.
ive never had a failure with any knives but ones under $10. and that was usually a tip breaking off or the locking mechanism breaking. = knife was still usable. that was from abuse too.They're "B" quality knives for a reason.
But it's not about that..try to get past that.
Try reading ALL of the words.
I'm asking about knives that can be had for $100.00 or less.
Cliff
there are no details. im talking $5 buck knock-offs being used in my garage to cut wires and be prybars. as a kid i remember my cast aluminum hollow handled "survival knife" breaking the minute i hacked at a piece of wood with it. but we would kinda expect that to happen right?Would you care to share any details about the knives you've abused,or would you rather not?
Cliff
thats a lot of babble to say nothing.Well we've now found out that Trixie doesn't know anything about diamonds as well and you'd think with them being a girl's best friend and all!
Trixie, darling, you don't buy blades over $100 then why did you suggest the SRK that has a list price of $119.99 at Cold Steel's site...
Price doesn't reflect a person's status but the craftsmanship and materials to produce the item...Is a Cadillac better then a Buick Regal or Chev Impala? Are your going to tell me that ATS-34 or D-2 steel isn't better then SK-5 or 440 and should be worth more...Mammoth might be extravagant (but lovely) but giraffe isn't and is still a natural material unlike G10 or Kraton...Is having the same knife with a nice Ironwood scale better then a Walnut scale, not really but it looks better and that's what will draw you to buy it...
Could someone please tell me why the Cold Steel Gurka Kukhri is $649.99 in San Mai steel and $299.99 in SK-5 Carbon Steel? Those I'd agree with Trixie being knife snob BS...But that's what I said earlier of Lynn doing it to the middle ground...
If I'm going to pay $400 for a knife from him, a commercial brand, when I can get a far superior knife from a custom maker for the same price, Hell even a quarter or a half less...
Well you might not buy anything over a $100 where I won't buy anything under $50--except to complete a maker's collection like CRKT, SOG and some older, smaller Cold Steel pieces that I liked...
Who the Hell said that he or anyone else for that matter was/is except you?
And here sweetcheeks, your bias comes to the forefront...I'm not comparing a $500 (Of, which I have) to a $100 (Which I have a lot more of) knife but a $160 to a $120 knife...Maybe it's that you don't have a big enough chest to swell? Yes, I'm a, according to you, rich prick, because I can afford and do buy knives over a $100...This will really make your panties twist, I've got knives now worth over $1,000 so "digest faeces"!
EDIT
I apologize, I didn't realize that you were a male (would have said man but I don't think you are)--had me fooled with that name and all...so change panties to tidy whiteys but still "digest faeces"!
just remember that at one time everything coming out of japan was considered JUNK. now its considered some of the best in the world.
good one, thats probly THE best example there is. in a survival situation, the only reason i can imagine battoning is to get to dry wood inside of a wet log. otherwise it seems unnecesary to me. what woods have you ever been in that didnt have all sizes of sticks from toothpick size all the way up to 12" round???Trixie, that was what I was trying to show with the picture of the broken Recon Scout I posted. To me, the ability to produce firewood via battoning is one of the most critical uses of a survival knife. The ability to produce fire at low temperatures is critical. Your point about redundancy in knives is well taken, and I agree 100%. But the picture of the recon scout was enough to sway me away from CS, at least for my primary survival knife (i could see owning one as a secondary knife though).
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Tx,
Adam
personally im never in the woods without a hatchet or tomahawk, but if we pretend for the sake of argument that a person is in a survival situation and has ONLY the one knife, yeah i would want it to be dependable.
i also tend to think that that srk broken could be a fluke, show me 10 of them broken like that and i'd believe they are junk.
and one last thing...............say a knife fails like the srk pictured. you dont instantly keel over and die. the knife IS still useable. its broken, its not ideal, but its do or die and that knife would still do most anything you needed it too.
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