Your links only show rifles in .22lr and 5.7x28mm. If they had one in .30 carbine that would be pretty cool. I had a m1 carbine go kaboom on me a couple months ago. Shrapnel in my forehead, busted lip, and the magazine exploded with my hand around it. I would feel much better shooting a new rifle chambered in it instead of one 60 years old.

 

You gotta scroll down brotherman! They are near the bottom on each of those links.

 

Ahh, im stupid I guess. I see it now. Looks interesting. But I would have to think long and hard before dropping that much on basically a 100 yard rifle. Im sure it would be very fun to shoot though.

 

I get 'em wholesale for about $440 a piece. :thumb:

 

I would buy for that!!

 

IMHO when the SHTF no collectors are going to pay top dollar for a collectable ,shooters only and just like the people that pay high prices for collectable gold coins after they will only be worth what ever gold is going for, I have several M1 carbines, one is in the price range of $1200-$1500 but I gave it to my wife because she can handle it very well. JT

 

I agree whole heartedly with you, and when SHTF, nothing I own is sacred, but in the interim, I lead a life cognizant that the SHTF may not happen in my life time, and the safe queens, historical artifacts/collections and coin collections I have may very well perpetuate my sons' children's futures, etc.

I don't let the threat of SHTF dictate how I live and act. I do incorporate it, but it doesn't rule me. I am prepared.

 

I'm really diggin' their semi auto .22WMR, too, but I don't like the 9 shot mag. Haven't researched enough yet to see what other mags are available for it, though.

This is the Mitchell (Mauser) Black Lightening .22WMR, made by Excel.

http://www.slickguns.com/sites/default/files/eb0f96b4c1e4df05d1756b401736ab8d.jpg

 

mmbsr, I agree and am the same way. Im just a tight wad! I have to either REALLY love a gun I run across or be offered a gun at crack head prices to buy something ahead of my "next gun" list.

 

haha! I hear ya! These days, I usually trade off. Seldom do I just 'add' to the collection. (I have to say that in case my wife see's this!)

 

I've reached the point where I usually sell one to buy one with the exception of someone wanting to sell me a gun for dirt cheap.

 

Me, too, in all seriousness.

 

^^^ Bump-ola ^^^

 

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Thank you for bringing them to my attention. My first impression would be that the .30 Carbine Rifle might be OK, but at the list price suggested one MIGHT be able to buy a good mixmaster USGI .30 Carbine in good shape. Also would be interested in what the rifling twist rate would be with the rifle. Quicker might be better as one could hand load the various heavy bullets.

The pistol appears to have a 8.5" barrel. This MAY be way too short for the .30 Carbine cartridge. The fireball and blast would be awesome. The ballistics might be better than expected, but again, for the price, other choices may be available. Also curious about the pistol twist rate. Overall, my feel for all of these new platforms is that I just do not know for sure. HB of CJ (old coot)

 

Never even heard of these. But if I could try 'em out before buying and find 'em for the price you can I'd snatch one up. Hell for the price you can get I might of already bought one whether I could try it out or not.

 

i am not a big fan of straight blowback operation for pressures of cartridges like the 30 carbine... if you have a ruger blackhawk, just grab a m1 carbine and some korean surplus mags and be done with it... you will be happy.

 

anyone ever made a bolt action 30 carbine that uses the GI magazines... that would be a cool rifle :thumb:

 

Have you looked into the Auto Mag III pistols in .30 Carbine?
Mr SNS

 

Had one o'those blow up in me hands once. Not really the fault of the weapon so much as the previous owner who, in an apparent attempt to smooth the feed ramp removed metal therefrom and left the casehead unsupported. Overall the fault was my own for not doing a better job of inspecting the weapon or the brass from the first two pre-kaboom shots.

HOWEVER, even with the ka-boom, all three shots hit within about 2" at 25 yards and I got only minor injuries (like a frustrated teacher whacking me hands really hard with a really big, hot, metal ruler and saying, "Hey, eejit! INSPECT weapons before firing and ALWAYS check the brass!")

I'd love to shoot one in proper working order. Like I said, kaboom aside, it hit where I was aiming very well.

 

Be careful with saying "100 yard gun" because that is not true. That really only applies to big game hunting.

 

I don't follow your meaning. I mean, I kinda do, but not entirely, so I'm not sure if I agree or disagree! LOL!

My personal experience with the .30 Carbine, with the loading I use, there is NOTHING at a 100 meters or less I wouldn't hesitate to engage - two or four legged.

Here's a commercial load by Hornady in their Critical Defense line:
http://www.hornady.com/store/30-M1-CARBINE-110-GR-FTX-CD/

Look at the 100yd specs. That's .357 Magnum muzzle data at 100 yards out of the Carbine.

The .30 Carbine with modern loading is the one of the least appreciated and most underrated round out there.

 

Those are interesting! I like the idea of a semi-modern design for the .30 Carbine round. It is a round of which I am fond and which I think is deserving of much more love than it receives. It's not a lot of things, but it IS a sufficiently powerful round to inflict lethal damage out surprisingly far, and can be had in a light, handy, accurate platform. If they have the blow-back mechanism strong enough and bugless, I think it might make for a much simpler weapon insofar as maintenance and such. I'll have to keep on the lookout for one to check out.

 

If you could get wholesale pricing on an Auto-Ordnance M1 Carbine that might be another route to go.

 

Very cool!

I like the old school stuff myself:

https://www.canadaammo.com/product/detail/ruger-bn-31-blackhawk-7-1-2-30-carbine-revolver/

 

So how would I go about buying one of these?

 

.30 Carbine ammo is horribly expensive for what it is......shoot a 20 round clip and you come close to burning a $20.00 bill.

 

True ... if you don't reload. Actually more like 50-60 cents a round if you shop around a little. Reload, and it's as cheap as anything else.

I have an Iver Johnson M1 Carbine. It has little or no historic value, but it's milspec and reliable. I keep it with a 30-round magazine of hollowpoints (tested reliable in the gun) by my bed. Those rounds from the carbine roughly equal .357 Magnum rounds from a 6" revolver, and you get 30 rounds, with almost no recoil, and a longer sight radius than a handgun can offer. You could look for one of those.

I've also heard the first-generation Universal M1 Carbines were milspec. Their terrible reputation comes from the later generations, and helps keep prices down.

 

I meant, that big game will need to be out to 100 yards, however, other game (including man), can be taken out much farther... to 300 yards. I agree, it's an underrated round, next to the .22 of course.

 

I decided I wanted a super light rifle that my wife could easily handle, but it had to have more power than a Ruger 10/22. I settled on the .30 carbine, but I got a USGI model off the local gun board and I bought another one off of gunbroker at the beginning of last year's panic. I got them at pre-panic prices because no one was panicing for 30 carbines yet.

I then picked up a Ruger Blackhawk...I put a want add on the local gun board and paid $400 for a like new pistol. I was happy. I've shot the rifles and they seem great, but if you can get these new ones for $400 something I'd do it. Should be worth all of that. Just seems like a glorified 10/22/carbine anyway with a cool aluminum receiver. They probably work great.

 

May be he put's the "clip" in his hair ?

I hope you have better luck with your 30 carbine, I was lucky to hit a pie plate @100' rifle or Ruger single six.
It could have been me just being a crummy shot . and my friends .

 

Very interesting.