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When the EPA took advantage of the most insane and dangerous ruling the Supreme Court has ever produced by preposterously declaring harmless CO2 emissions — an unavoidable product of literally all human activity — to be a danger to public safety, the power grab was unprecedented in human history for its potential scope. But when it comes to seizing control over every aspect of our lives, nothing is ever enough for liberal bureaucrats. After air, what we need the most urgently is water — making it a natural target for EPA tyrants:

A group of 28 Republican lawmakers from Western states is fighting efforts by Democrats in the House and Senate to quietly expand the scope of the Clean Water Act, the federal government's main tool for regulating the quality of the nation's waterways.

The lawmakers sent a letter Tuesday to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada opposing efforts to rush through Congress the Clean Water Restoration Act, a bill that would allow the federal government to protect all waters of the U.S. from pollution, not just the "navigable" waters covered in current law.​

Reportedly Dems are planning to ram it through quickly and surreptitiously, by attaching it to more popular legislation, such as the defense bill, and passing it at the last minute before Congress flies away for vacation.

We do they need to sneak? Everybody wants clean water, right? But not everybody wants the federal leviathan to grant itself totalitarian control over your property because there's a puddle in your backyard.

Republican lawmakers say they were spurred to act in part because of complaints they heard back in their states and districts.

"The concern we hear back home is that this legislation would grant virtually unlimited regulatory control over all wet areas within a state. This bill attempts to trump state's rights and pre-empts state and local governments from making local land- and water-use decisions," the letter says.

Specialists say the legislation would extend government regulation to 20 million acres of the nation's so-called "isolated" wetlands and 59 percent of the nation's streams that do not flow year-round.

"This legislation will hurt states and communities across America. The consequences and impacts of the Clean Water Restoration Act deserve a thorough and open debate in Congress," the lawmakers wrote.​

But a "thorough and open debate in Congress" would hardly be characteristic of our era of Obamunist "transparency," in which bills altering the nature of our country are shoved through before anyone can even read them.

Once liberal bureaucrats have established that the air, the water, and the weather fall under their jurisdiction, the food supply will be next on the agenda. This is the reason for disturbing claims that agriculture causes the imaginary global warming bugaboo.
 

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"Devil in the Details"

This is a most troubling trend. It has always occurred to me that "the fine print" of legislation is what slips cuts into American traditional freedoms. What next? The government is going to hire individuals at the county level to come and "inspect" the water we collect as runoff from our roofs??? After all, he's there to "protect us from ourselves" right???

IMHO, just another step toward 'NannyGovernment'... :(
 

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even my pond will now be a federal waterway

lets see ----
federal control of ---
energy
water
healthcare

sounds like a dictatorship ta me
 
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It's all about control over resources. When ever you hear of anything that the government is doing, the bottom line is about 'who controls resources'.

Those resources are food production from seed to distribution, water from the source to distribution, power from source to distribution, minerals, oil, drugs, air, finances and last but not least the ultimate ...the human resource.

If 'they' can control those things which I listed above, they can control every aspect of our lives. They can control everything we produce over the span of our lifetime. And when we are no longer able to produce we will be tossed aside like yesterday's garbage.

Saying this is only about politics is to have tunnel vision. We have to have a clear and unclouded view of their finish line in order to truly understand what's at stake.
 

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clean water. Truly something to be afraid of.
 

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That's my point. It's not clean water. The govt puts the chemicals in there, not nature.
where i live mining and mfg companies put poison in the water.
Especially the plating companies.
 

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I've seen that here at the city level from circuitboard manufacturers ... dumping poisonous water straight into the city sewer system ...
this pollution in my area gets dumped right into rivers.
 

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Sure, ummm but, I ain't eatin nothing from those waterways ... LOL
and I'm debating on wether or not I should touch anything that comes outta that water ... for health reasons ya know ;)
but the GOP said it's all safe, and people who worry about stuff like that are weak.
 

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As a municipal employee who deals with the clean water act, their wanting to extend it to all water ways is scary, plain scary.
We are already required to prevent street contamination into watersheds.
That means water run off from streets during rain events.
Parking lots are a night mare and we are now required to have impound ponds at parking lots where contaminants will settle in.
If the feds get control of any water you the taxpayer and property owner are truly screwed.
 

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too bad. in the future clean water will be important. people with NO water in places where it makes no sense to live will wish they lived near it.
 

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As a municipal employee who deals with the clean water act, their wanting to extend it to all water ways is scary, plain scary.
We are already required to prevent street contamination into watersheds.
That means water run off from streets during rain events.
Parking lots are a night mare and we are now required to have impound ponds at parking lots where contaminants will settle in.
If the feds get control of any water you the taxpayer and property owner are truly screwed.
We see the same thing down at our city home in Phoenix, containment ponds all over the metro area. During heavy rains these fill to capacity, then flood roadways.

As far as being screwed, my city property will just have to be taken, but the BOL will not go down w/o some sort of lead, be it pencil or the other, exchange ...
 
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