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I was sitting down on the couch this evening and chatting with the wife over the economic breakdown of the US and Canada and other countries aswell, when my wife asked me if I thought that enemies of the US would think it a prudent time to bring the fight to US soil, now we were chatting about terrorism (al-quada) as well as an invasion by maybe Korea.


just wondering what you guys think south of the border ?
 

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I think a war is going to be started by the oil producing countries to get oil prices turned around. Who knows how it will escalate.
 

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Well, a terrorist attack would just be a terrorist attack and I doubt north korea could come up with the manpower to do anything effective by itsself. I think it would take a much larger country like russia or china to see an opportunity in our downfall. Also, they are experiencing breakdowns of their own, so they would find us a difficult target. I don't think they would target us when they have nearby neighbors like Japan or So. Korea or the Stan countrys to pick on. Of course if one of those countries was attacked, then we might go to their aid so ya never know. Then again, I'm a 20 year old computer nerd, not an ambassador heh, so No. Korea might attack us and get horribly slaughtered. Somethimes ya really cant tell
 

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Yes we will have multiple nuke strikes.
Sooner or later I don't know.
I'm not prepared for nukes,I wonder what it will be like
to have my eyes boiled out,but yet live for a short time
wandering around in agony,like what happened to some
of those poor people in Japan,when they were hit with nukes.
 
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I believe that because history repeats itself (as stated in another thread here and taught in the military) and because it is also a powerful and proven military tactic throughout history as a sure way to conquer another civilization/empire, even if a more powerful one, that when a civilization/empire is at its weakest point because of whatever reason(civil unrest, internal strife, economic collapse, political corruption, military spread thin because of other wars, etc.) it most assuredly can be conquered.
(i.e. Roman Empire, Greece, Troy, Egypt, etc, etc. Even on a smaller scale,
it was a very famous Roman Empire tactic to get as close as possible to your enemy and then when they're at their weakest, you strike them very thoroughly although very surprisingly until they were completely destroyed).

Personally also I believe because of many spiritual words I have heard over my life that one day Korea or China will attack us exactly when we are at such a point--internal upheaval while our military is spread thin handling too many other battles on foreign soil and we're thinking it could never happen.
Many empires in the past also thought their military was too powerful and their country was too strong or impenetrable to ever be conquered and were proven wrong.

I was once told by a good Historian and didn't really believe him at the time, until I personally took a look back at history, and that is, that EVERY civilization in history that was allowed to become very rich and powerful has fallen because of the ill effects the richness and power had on its people and form of government. People became so spoiled, corrupt, egotistical, dependent on government, ignored their Creator and lost their consciences, etc, etc. (sound familiar?), that eventually it infected their entire society and their entire empire either imploded or was conquered.

Many times this fall came because of an enemy who waited for that special weak moment and then surprisingly was able to easily overcome the larger more powerful one.
 

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Hi Dwind

If it wouldn’t be much trouble, could you please give me some step-by-step instructions, on how I can attach photos to my posts.

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HUGO CHAVEZ He is the only guy on this side of the planet with the guns and an army to do it. He also has 150 F-16 fighters and some shiney new migs. Oh and all the oil he needs.
 

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Venezuela plans to acquire 50 of Russia’s most advanced warplanes, the UPI news agency reported citing U.S., European and Latin American military intelligence officials who are concerned about regional ambitions harbored by President Hugo Chavez.

The UPI also reported details of agreements being negotiated with Russian defense contractors for a large number of super jet fighters fitted with state-of-the-art weaponry. In letters addressed last year to the director general of Russian Aeronautic Corp., Nicolai F. Nikitin, the Venezuelan air force requested the “latest version” of the MiG 29 SMT equipped with high-tech weaponry, including radar-guided missiles and 2,000-pound bombs.

“The plane must have the capacity to carry no less than 4 tons of bombs,” says the document signed by the Venezuelan air force commander, Maj. Gen. Regulo Anselini Espin, a copy of which has been obtained by UPI. Venezuelan generals have told European diplomatic officials that they need the MiGs to protect the Panama Canal. When asked against whom, the air chiefs wouldn’t specify.

Venezuelan defense officials have said that they were turning to new defense partners because of deteriorating military relations with the United States. More than half of Venezuela’s 22 F-16s are currently grounded due to a lack of maintenance and spare parts. But Colombia and other neighboring countries fear that the new arms would enable Chavez to impose his geopolitical and ideological agenda.

“The total quantity of airplanes provided is of 40 single-seat planes and 10 twin-seat planes,” Venezuelan air force documents state. Defense analysts point out that two-seat MiGs are normaly used for deep, surgical bombing missions.

Ten aircraft are due to be delivered within 18 months of the contract being signed, which also involves setting up a MiG 29 maintenance center in Venezuela, according to air force officials who outline plans for long-term supply and maintenance. “Future deliveries will be made with the participation of the specialists of the Venezuelan air force in the joint assembly of the planes and their test flights following their assembly on Venezuelan territory,” say letters of intent with Russia.

There are already several MiGs in Venezuela, according to Colombian defense officials who have shown UPI photographs of the planes being prepared for flight testing at the Libertador air base in Maracaibo. A U.S. intelligence source also claims that MiGs have been spotted flying near the Caribbean island of Curcao.

Members of Venezuela’s military say handpicked pilots are undergoing flight training in Cuba, which has six MiG 29s. Cuba is the only country in Latin America, except Peru, to be equipped with the advanced Russian model. Fidel Castro offers various types of security assistance to Venezuela in exchange for oil.

Russian and Cuban military officials enjoy warm relations with the Venezuelan Defense Ministry, according to American and EU diplomatic sources who believe that Russia is prepared to sell the full MiG package. The sources say that Russia’s defense attache, air force Col. Oleg Krayotin, holds regular meetings with Venezuelan Defense Minister Garcia Carneiro.

Venezuelan contracts are also being drawn up for Russian Mi-17 heavy-lift helicopters as well as radar systems from China, according to U.S. intelligence reports.
 

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any army attack?? we have enough nukes to distroy the world many times over. i really dought they will risk a missle launch. and if it is a serious attack you can bet the generals will launch to keep from being taken they will not have anything to lose. so i really dought any army will attack

on this radio station i lessen to this guy was being interviewed about 3 months ago he has VERY BIG connections in the oil industry and this big wig told him that oil would be brought down to around $50 a barrel because of new oil fields in indonesea and north of russia. the reason they want to oil down that low is to hurt the middle east. they pay for EVERYTHING through oil profits, heath care, schools, military ...ect they wanted to make them start hurting economic wise. now here in the states they plan on another staged a BIG terriorist attack (WMD) blame iran so they can go into iran.


i dont know if this guy is on the up and up but he did hit the $50 a barrel at the time oil was like $125. and from what biden and powell have been saying lately its almost like they are getting us ready. i guess we will find out soon :(
 

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The other thing that could happen is no matter who gets elected the other side will riot over it and it could get out of hand. Remember all the hoopla over Bush declaring martial law. If they did riot he could pull that off and McCain or Obama would not be the President because they would not be sworn in. That could be a wad of airborn poop headed for the fan.
 

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If a country ever did envade USA, they would have to deal with the civilians with guns as well as the armed forces.
yea, I'd become an 'evil insurgent' in a second...and most other countries know they'd have to deal with us...so it would take some giant balls to attack us...but never know...someone out there might just have giant balls
 

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honestly no. if the nation was to come under attack i think we would see martyrdom such as the likes of 9/11. Venezuela isnt going to attack us because we are one of their biggest customers. that being said i think i would agree more with a MAD scenario than the us being invaded.
 
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