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If the FBI is on facebook, which they are http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/16/fbi-facebook-crime-study
And if the FBI infiltrate protest groups, which they have done
http://www.ombwatch.org/node/10045
And I believe I saw that the FBI had infiltrated the Michigan Militia, but I can not find the link (please send if you have it)
Then what is the probability that they watch this site?

I try to put myself in the shoes of the person that I view to oppose me, and I believe they would be here.

If I were in charge of watching for possible uprising, or "terrorists" it would go as follows:
Tea party members, and cross check them with all data base's, looking for gun purchases and concealed weapons permits,and training that they might have purchased.
I would watch for active members of NRA groups that attended protests.

I to would have agents infiltrate militia groups
The next logical target would be Survival groups,
in which I would have agents watch board posts and establish alert levels.
I would not at all be surprised if our posts are monitored, and even would go as far as to say that we may even have groups infiltrated.

Am I crazy or do you think It possible, of even probable?
 

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If they're smart they would. Do you really think everyone around here is a angel? On the other hand to answer the question no i dont think they do. I believe the fbi has better ways to mass search/probe the web without the need to only target "few sites".
 

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I just remember Ruby Ridge and the depth that they sunk to, nor do I believe that they would hesitate to use the same play book. They befriended him too, then got him to do an illegal act (sawing the barrels of a shotgun down).
Imagine them searching through this sight and all the things that they find offensive. Now as you pointed out not all of us are angels, if they could find someone that they thought fit the build don't you think it would fit their agenda to start a surveillance on them. Do you think that if they didn't find anything that they would simply say "oh well gosh I guess we were wrong?" Or is it more likely they would try to get him to do something illegal then comeback with a raid. If this was done wouldn't you think the press would jump on it and paint the following picture:
A raid was conducted last night on a member of a terrorist group, the FBI has not disclosed his name. But FBI .......has given the following statement. Last night we served a sealed warrant on a terrorist compound and at least one suspected terrorist was taken into custody. At his compound we found a large arsenal of firearms, and possible bomb making material. It is not clear now what the nature of the crime was,or if more arrests are to follow. Now the suspect appears to have been a member to a survival group, and was a member to this online forum. Thanks...coming up next, inside survival groups, some say they are hoarders, others call them patriots, but is there more going on behind the scenes than meets the eyes.....

I think they would love to make it so people were scared of their neighbors, or perhaps its just anything that seems Patriotic to them seems horrific.
 

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i figure its more of a data file on everyone if they want to look you up while doing an investigation ,just type in your screen named and see what pops up :eek:

by the way about 15yrs ago 20/20 did a story about a mom that told a friend of hers over the phone jimmy bombed at scoccer today. the FBI(or it was the NSA) did a $1500 investigation on her family. and this was over 15yrs ago i seen it on 20/20. i cant imagine what they can do now
 

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i figure its more of a data file on everyone if they want to look you up while doing an investigation ,just type in your screen named and see what pops up :eek:

by the way about 15yrs ago 20/20 did a story about a mom that told a friend of hers over the phone jimmy bombed at scoccer today. the FBI(or it was the NSA) did a $1500 investigation on her family. and this was over 15yrs ago i seen it on 20/20. i cant imagine what they can do now
investigate the Oscars. All they seem to award is bombs these days
 

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They can still do keyword monitoring of internet traffic, or rather, we monitor England's and they monitor ours for us. This avoids pesky domestic surveillance laws. As to how much info thet actually have? Not really thaqt much, due to the huge volume of data. I made a FOIA request, and got the following about your internet activities:

(*Sensitive redaction/censorship of released information uses X as a substitution for strikeout)

survivalistboards.com member Cryptkeeper
XXXX XXXXXX X it XXX XXXXXXX and XXXXXXXXXX. XXX a bicycle, and a bug out bag. Subject XXXXXXX XXXXX XXXXXX pony. Internet activities: 1/3 porn, 1/3 work related and 1/3 XXXXXXXXX XXXXX XX

<Snipped entire section of X's for brevity>


survivalist,XXXXXXXXX< XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XX XXXXXXXXXX X XXXXXXXX X XXXXXXX pink frilly panties.
;) (I really hope you have a sense of humor!)

Actually, I don't doubt that the Government has some pretty cool toys, etc, and can effectively surveille us all they want, but frankly, if they did, any real activity would get lost in the noise. There is such a thing as too much information input. Right now, for example, we have a huge backlog of Predator video data that hasn't been seen, because we don't have enough intel weenies to keep up, and it's several years backlog. As to a secret program to monitor us as a whole? It would simply be too large to hide.


i figure its more of a data file on everyone if they want to look you up while doing an investigation ,just type in your screen named and see what pops up :eek:

by the way about 15yrs ago 20/20 did a story about a mom that told a friend of hers over the phone jimmy bombed at scoccer today. the FBI(or it was the NSA) did a $1500 investigation on her family. and this was over 15yrs ago i seen it on 20/20. i cant imagine what they can do now
 

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Our own moderator crew has a hard time monitoring this site. I imagine the FBI has some sort of automated device that screens for trouble words. Only the highest level of trouble would get looked at by an agent.

BTW, I'm totally talking out my ass right now, and I have no idea how they would do it. That’s how I would do it.
 
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