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Question for the more serious preppers and long term planners that already have supplies to survive the first year (food, water, shelter, safety) do you have medications, specifically antibiotics, to keep away the chance of infection related deaths? I read that even today 5 out of every 100 kids who do not have access to antibiotics die from treatable aliments like pneumonia and diarrhea, that's terrifying!
 

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Question for the more serious preppers and long term planners that already have supplies to survive the first year (food, water, shelter, safety) do you have medications, specifically antibiotics, to keep away the chance of infection related deaths? I read that even today 5 out of every 100 kids who do not have access to antibiotics die from treatable aliments like pneumonia and diarrhea, that's terrifying!
We keep a stock of antibiotics in our home, and if we needed to bug out, I would grab them along with many other medications on our way out the door. I leave my BOB in our primary vehicle, and it's not a good idea to leave antibiotics in a vehicle that can experience wide temperature swings, especially high temps.

That being said, a BOB is usually designed for a three day period, and you aren't going to contract a bacterial infection and die from it in three days.

If you're talking about something like an INCH bag, then it's more plausible to bring more meds.
 

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Yes. Every time I get even a cold I go to th Doctor. For a $5 co pay he prescribes antibiotics I fill them for another $5 pharmacy co pay then stash them. I have been doing this for the last 5 years. Everyone knows they do not expire. My sister is a pediatrician. and reassured me 90% of most pill form medications do not expire. In addition, I did buy the fish antibiotics. I took them out and compared them to my other antibiotics. Several matched iditentical, the others were by different manufactures. Once you look them up on the internet you can see they match. Just check them with the correct manufacture you will see. I did this more so as an experiment then a necessity. My sister had already assured me they were the same. She also did a tour years ago with Doctors without Boarders. She told me many times they received out of date meds (by years) for use. Also they received vet meds for use from manufactures for local "livestock" use. She said they did not waist precious resources like that on local cows and goats. Everything got used for people period. If your insurance pays though use it. Fish antibiotics can be way more expensive then just a cheap co pay. Of course if your co pay is $25 or up, then a pharmacy co pay plus gas. The fish antibiotics are cheaper. I have Kieser Permante, shockingly now you don't even have to go in. They do FaceTime, phone or Skype medical appoints if you can't get in. Also those appoints are not charged a co pay. It's their way of getting more people in. I kid you not. I literally tell the doc my temp and my symptoms and he prescribes medication. How a proper diagnosis could be made I have no clue. But this is our future.
 

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I keep a supply in the fridge ready to grab. I also maintain natural antibiotics like garlic and apple cidar vinegar.
The refrigerator is the best place to store almost all medications. My father is a pharmacist, and he says that this will extend their effectiveness by at least a factor of four.
 

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I thought about this last night actually for my kids who get infections all the damn time. They get the liquid amoxocillin. Is that stuff safe beyond expiration if stored in the fridge?
I just called and asked my sister this. (Which is funny because she is doing rounds at the hospital now and I am picking her brain for a survivalist post.) she said in liquid form medication is not as stable. Where as in pill form it can last for years. The most she said she would feel safe with it is 6 months to a year. But she said to check it for cloudy appearance or discoloration even before that. Also she said that it has to be kept in optimal conditions and unopened in original package. However since usually the pharmacist mixes some forms of amoxicillin for kids at the pharmacy that kinda isn't practical. So I wouldn't trust it. She also said the reason kids are give the amoxicillin via liquid is mainly because of the taste. Easy to get a kid to swallow bubble gum flavored liquid instead of downing a pill.
 

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Not *in* my BoB, but in my med bag that's grabbed separately.

The Navy just completed some exhaustive tests on expiration dates or all kinds of meds including antibiotics. Or should i say "so-called expiration dates". Nothing turns poisonous and everything retains potency for many years past the date. I think their analysis stopped at 10 years or so, but the exact timeframe escapes me.


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More important question: do you know when to take antibiotics and the dosage? Even doctors prescribe it wastefully. For example: Flu. Antibiotics does nothing against a virus. You know which diseases are viral, and which are bacterial at the very least? ;)
I have a laminated list of each anti-biotic and what they can be used for most commonly along with dosages (x per day) and for what length of time they should be taken for.

I keep them in my fridge.

On another note, tetracycline and doxycycline have been reported to become toxic after they have been stored a while. I don't store either of these.
 

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More important question: do you know when to take antibiotics and the dosage? Even doctors prescribe it wastefully. For example: Flu. Antibiotics does nothing against a virus. You know which diseases are viral, and which are bacterial at the very least? ;)
Very good point, like most tools unless you know how to use their a liability.
 
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