sorry never seen that myth or whatever you call it nothing wrong with strong women maybe its just the folks you associate with



this si what I asociate with lesbians.... women who try to look like a man

which brings the question from observation if lesbians do not like men why then do they date women who look like men?

 

which brings the question from observation if lesbians do not like men why then do they date women who look like men?

I've always wondered that myself.
Or the fact that I already 'have' what they 'have' and if I wanted to play with some of those, it doesn't require an additional person.

In their defense however, it's an emotional thing as much as physical, and I get that. Don't fully understand it, but I do get that it's their preference, just like I like a certain kind of man.
I have had a man or two upset that I took care of things instead of calling a man to do it. Dumped those guys right quick!
I can and will dress like a lady, but will also do what I gotta do if my man isn't around.

I used to body build, and yes I have been called a Lesbian before, but not when I was working out.
Shoot, once I pretended to be cuz the girl I was at the bar with was getting hit on by another girl.
and then there was the time I defended a Lesbian at work, to a straight girl by saying "So what if she's gay, do you think she'll knock you down and lick you? Trust me, she has better taste than that!"

So jokes aside, I really don't care. In the end, they're just people, strong or not.

 

It seems there are some women who think, in order to be strong, they cannot be women. Therefore, they must be more manly than men to prove they are strong. Some women seem to feel they emphasize their strength by denying their femaleness. Some men who seem threatened by strong women find insulting their femaleness to be a way of building themselves up. Lastly, there are some women who are lesbians, strong or not.

It's ridiculous really. I've never had a problem being a woman and being a strong individual. My strength as an individual is not gender-based. My strength as a woman is most certainly gender-based. The best I can tell I have the best of both worlds.

It does take a certain type of man not to be offput by a strong woman. He has to be secure in his own manhood and not threatened by a woman being an effective person. For a strong woman to tie herself to any other type man is a nightmare. To find a man who can appreciate you for what you are and the two of you play to each other's strengths is a dream. I have lived a nightmare, I am living a dream. I'd rather stay awake than live another nightmare...

 

I have known strong women that were just that and it had nothing to do with their preferences.

I have known strong women that were lesbians.

I have known strong women that were bi.


Personally, I don't care who a person (man or woman) chooses to share their life with; I judge them by the life they live not how they live it.

Myself, I prefer a strong woman. I would rather have a partner in life than one who needs someone for every little thing. Dainty little flowers are fine for a while, but a woman that can take care of herself, now that is forever.

 

My wife is strong, amazingly so.
Just not physically.

The old stereotypes are just that, stereotypes.

 

Nonsense. Of course a woman can be strong without being a lesbian. If they couldn't, no male of my family would ever get married because we require a strong woman. My grandmother was the only one who could keep my grandfather in check. I shudder to think what might have happened had he married a less willful woman.

On the other hand, my success rate at pointing out lesbians is pretty good I think. At least it is in the cases that I could confirm.

 

I think it just penis envy. :


I'm kidding. But on a more serious note.....I personally like a strong woman. I don't like a woman who uses that "strength" to constantly put down men. I also don't like a strong woman who forgets thats shes a woman. Why can't you be strong, and feminine? I can't stand when a woman tries to be "one of the boys" and cusses and spits, etc.

You can be strong...and I applaud you for it. But don't forget that you were a woman first. Its ok to be girly too. :thumb:

 

You can be strong...and I applaud you for it. But don't forget that you were a woman first. Its ok to be girly too. :thumb:

Believe me, Monstermash, I like to put on heels and go dancing, hoping my guy likes a little close dancing too

...a gal can have it all!

 

Never noticed.

 

I'm pretty sure that the strength of a woman has nothing to do with her sexual orientation. Lesbians come in all shapes and sizes. I don't think every woman wants a strong man to protect them. Likewise, I'm pretty sure not all small lesbians want a hulking 6' tall lesbian to protect them. Ok, I'm done ranting.

Lots of No Bow ****** out there these days and times.

Kinda like it has become acceptable.

I sympathize with the ******, I love women too.

Jungle Work

Strong does not equal lesbian. Ask my wife. She's out in the garden working her fingers raw. She can handle a tractor and she can handle a gun. She handles me VERY well, thank you very much.

No. A strong woman doesn't scare me. She turns me on!! It's when she'd rather kiss my sister than me when I have a problem. I don't accept homosexualism. It isn't a lifestyle, it's a disease.

Strong women are beautiful, sexy, loving and warm. So what if she can bench press more than I can?? All the better in bed!!!

You can tell my wife I said so.

I'm sorry but I disagree with that. Saying someone is diseased is like saying they're broken or damaged. People don't choose what they are.

So right human are a diverse lot are we not. Normal is subjective and nothing else. The icky factor does not make something deceased.

 

I know i've been accused of being 1 myself. I don't care for cooking but I cook ok, I don't care to wear dresses, pants only. I would rather be outside doing something than inside.

I loved truck driving, I miss it since I had to come off the road. I would rather go camp out in the woods fishing, prospecting, shooting than shopping. I hate shopping.

I don't wear makeup except on the rare occasion. I don't care for fake fingernails and have only wore them 1 time. I keep my hair cut short like in those pics becasue it's easier to take care of. I can crochet or make a quilt if I need to. I like crochet a bit better than quilting but not something I want to do all the time. I am now looking into reloading and that really has my interest.

But I am married to a man and there are times he dosen't care for the tomboy side of me and like I told him he shouldn't have married me if he didn't care for that part. There's the door don't let it hit you in the ass on the way out.

I've had several women friends through the years who were either full ****** or bi. They are the same as anyone else. I've had a few of them tell me that being with a woman is a lot more pleasureable than being with a man. That's why they are the way they are. To tell the truth i've thought about it a couple of times but never had the nerve to follow through. But that may be on my bucket list 1 day, lol.

 

I'm pretty sure that the strength of a woman has nothing to do with her sexual orientation. Lesbians come in all shapes and sizes. I don't think every woman wants a strong man to protect them. Likewise, I'm pretty sure not all small lesbians want a hulking 6' tall lesbian to protect them. Ok, I'm done ranting.

 

So true, txplowgirl and ATST, I've been accused of being a Lesbian, then in the next breath, the guy will ask me how to make his girlfriend love the wilderness and backpacking.

I tell them, don't turn her into a pack mule and take time to make love.

But really, I'm convinced its in your genes. I don't know if you can make a gal love the wilderness if she doesn't already.

 

Lots of No Bow ****** out there these days and times.

Kinda like it has become acceptable.

I sympathize with the ******, I love women too.

Jungle Work

 

My best friend is a lesbian and she is strong. Actually it is possible the same thing is behind her being gay and her body structure. She has a sort of male body which means big muscle mass and any fat ends up around the belly. She also had confirmed higher testosterone than an ordinary female. Her mind I think is strong for another reason. She grew up in the north where you HAVE to be mentally robust. It is a harsh place to live in with a lot of snow in the winter, almost no daylight at all, and you are supposed to be born with a Mora in one hand and an axe in the other.

However, she had to take pred for two years and that stuff can change you for life. She doesn't always have the same chill attitude after that, she can snap and become super angry!

Me on the other hand, I'm actually physically quite weak (from illness) but stubborn. Quite hardy in a lot of mentally difficult situation but then again I'm the type that when things are fixed and I'm weary, I go bawl my eyes out for 30 minutes before picking up where I left off.

We both have this idea things can be done. If you want it bad enough. She manages because how and where she was raised. I manage because of dumb faith and an innate belief we'll manage, always (LOL).

Strong? I would not think so. Just different personalities with different strengths and weaknesses. We work well as a team.

Throw her GF into the mix and things change. She is a city person from birth and I don't think I need to say more. She is not weak. She has done some very difficult stuff (intellectually, practically and emotionally) working as a RN in a wild and crazy post ER clinic. But she can't build a fire.

 

Strong does not equal lesbian. Ask my wife. She's out in the garden working her fingers raw. She can handle a tractor and she can handle a gun. She handles me VERY well, thank you very much.

No. A strong woman doesn't scare me. She turns me on!! It's when she'd rather kiss my sister than me when I have a problem. I don't accept homosexualism. It isn't a lifestyle, it's a disease.

Strong women are beautiful, sexy, loving and warm. So what if she can bench press more than I can?? All the better in bed!!!

You can tell my wife I said so.

 

Excellent reply, I love it!

 

I have a daughter-in-law who is a professional woman and quite good at what she does.

She was featured in a newspaper story about how professional women juggle work and home. She is big on organic food, but does not grow anything herself. She buys "fresh" every day and shops the farmer's market on weekends.

She was quoted in the newspaper piece as saying she didn't ever want to learn to grow food. And as she was chopping up vegetables in her kitchen, she said, "This is as dirty as I want my hands to get." I felt really sorry for her, because she must have been proud to have been the subject of an article.

No, I don't look at women who work like men as being anything other than my type of woman.

 

I haven't really seen that...even in the South where women tend to girly. I've known tough women who didn't go for girly...truck drivers, farmers who I'd never think of as lesbians. Seems like most of those women really like their men and have no lack of interested guys. I've also worked with women in academia who were not the least bit girly but never came across as lesbian.

My best male friend is gay so I know a lot of his lesbian friends. The ones with the guy haircuts and clothes that carry wallets in their back pockets do stand out. Some of the others just look like regular women--usually not dolled up though although one blatantly butch lesbian nurse I worked had a gorgeous long-haired blond cop gf who dressed feminine and wore make-up. She probably threw guys for a loop! :

 

I think we need to agree on sticking to the three aspects of "strong" in the original post: confident, independent and physically capable of accomplishing solid outdoor work. Most seem to be focusing on just physically strong. I like women who are confident and independent. I also like ones who are emotionally strong. Being squeamish about mice, snakes, or spiders etc. is a definite turn off. But being empathetic and caring is also important. I do not think physical strength is a determining factor as sexual orientation.

 

I think we need to agree on sticking to the three aspects of "strong" in the original post: confident, independent and physically capable of accomplishing solid outdoor work.

Good point. I do not think accomplishing solid outdoor work is relevant to the OP of lesbian stereotypes.

My fiance is a VERY strong person. By this, I am not referring to physical strength. She is very petite and quiet spoken; extremely feminine. Now for you man-haters out there, just b/c she speaks with a low volume does not mean I do not listen to what she says. On the contrary. She is muscular and amazingly tenacious. Just one example. She got the lawnmower started this weekend while I was on the roof taking off shingles. She said it took her about 200 attempts! I admire her wisdom and strength of character immensely.

Now getting back to solid, outdoor work, some may call this chauvinist but I think of it as chivalrous; I think she ought to do the easier of the work to be done (except cooking which is a passion of mine) or help me do the most difficult tasks (like support the ladder while I am working on the roof). Ignoring the fact that a man is physically stronger in dividing up the work is not sexist but stupid!

She does do yard work but tends to do the small but nice things that make it our home, like planting 50 bulbs last weekend and looking forward to the flowers to bloom. Another example is adding things to the deck and table that give it that homey feel. Her son does the mowing and I tend to do most of the heavy lifting, literally, like using a chain saw to cut branches and split wood.

Can she do these things? She says no but I have every confidence she could. This division of labor is as I think it should be. We do what we are better suited for and prefer to do ... This subject is akin to a knife v axe; just b/c a woman or knife "can" do something does not mean a man or axe is not better suited ... Anyway, I do not know that any self-respecting guy could be in the house vacuuming while his woman is outside shoveling or cutting down trees, lifting heavy logs, preparing the wood for the fire pit, etc. There is plenty of work to do and we divide the work equitably. I sure appreciate all her help. I think the OP embraces the negative aspects of feminism, which pits man to compete with woman. (This, like homosexuality itself, is not natural. Cancer may be found in nature but it not a natural part of being healthy). Thankfully, we reject this and believe it is the role of woman to help man - and vice versa.

 

Probably going to get myself in trouble here, but so be it.

There are multiple types of people. The term alpha doesn't just apply to males. There are alpha females as well. It doesn't make them lesbian, it makes them an alpha female.
Most of them are not any different than any other women other than a few key things:

Mentally tough;
Intelligent;
Confident;
Physically tough.

Those characteristics do not preclude being feminine. Nor do they automatically caste them as lesbian.

the difficulties it does produce is a distinct problem with finding a suitable mate. This is the part that is not politically correct. In an old school biblical sense, such a woman could not brook a weak male, nor even a marginal alpha male. Given the biblical sense of following their husband, the stronger they are, the stronger the male counterpart must be. Any male that an alpha female can dominant, will be viewed with disdain as a general rule of thumb by that female. Given the number of beta/metrosexuals these days, it makes life that much harder on the alpha females out there.

 

Wow, that is an excellent post! I never heard it put that way, but I am guilty of dismissing weak men. But I am NOT a man hater and never have been with nor never will be with a female.

I guess I'm politically incorrect then, too:thumb:

double thanks

 

I love lesbians, just check my browsing history!

On topic, I have known a couple lesbians that were typically girly kind and I've known a couple that could put my ass in the ground. That said a strong woman is necessary, at least strong enough to hold their own. My wife had a lesbian relationship back in AR but it didn't really get that far and she considered herself bi at the time. Now she says she is 100% straight, but she is quite strong, she can pin me down but I can still easily pick her up and carry her. I do however like the girly part she lets out even though she grew up basically a tomboy.

That said I don't think its a disease, unless its one that can be cured just by ending the relationship and dating a guy again. We're married now and even though I sometimes beg her to bring another woman home she still won't. If her lesbian experiment was really a disease then, like any other disease, she wouldn't be able to control it. The key factor for a disease is it hinders or hurts us and we can do anything about it except for surgery or medications. All she did was change her relationship status. I don't have anything against them and personally I'd rather have a strong lesbian on my SHTF team than a weak hetero. And if the choice was between strong lesbian and strong hetero then to me they are even.

 

Oh and, before some of you "Christian" types start hiding behind the bible for your proof that homosexuality is a "sin"...............


If any of you married women who weren't virgins, then you should stone her to death before you worry about the homos in the world. Do that, and I'll take your belief in what you're preaching seriously.

Deuteronomy Chapter 22, ver 20-21 King James Version
20 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:

21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.

 

You show your ignorance of Christianity with that post.

 

I married a strong woman, not physically strong, but strong none the less.

She can keep me under control, which is something that no other woman has been able to do (and something that was long overdue, I used to be a bad kid, wild, reckless, etc., etc.), she carries the same handgun I do on a daily basis, she works in the garden, deals with the animals, loves camping and fishing. All this at 5'6" and a buck-ten :thumb:

"Strong" women are rarely physically strong, they're tough in other ways, and for each strong woman out there, there is a strong companion, a second half to make her whole. The wife and I, we're only whole when we're together.

 

You sound like you have your stuff together in the country - great. But, big cities are a different story.
Often women label themselves as "strong" as an excuse for poor behavior.

from the movie baby mama:
"Some people would say that
I am bossy and controlling.

No, that's just prejudice.

They call you bossy and
controlling 'cause you're a woman.

But if you were a man doing the
same stuff, you'd just be a ****."

And many "strong" women belong to organized man-hate groups.

 

I have only known three women who labeled themselves as "strong women". One was a black, ****** hating straight woman. The other two were lesbians who hated all men except for those who were gay and fixated on talking openly about anal sex. All three were extremely unpleasant people to be around and would spend their days baiting people into severe arguments.

 

You, my dear man, have not ever really met any strong women then. Those were angry women. Strong and angry are not the same. At all.

I am a strong woman. I don't know if they are still around, but my husband of 30+ years has always said I'm a Weeble - (it was a children's toy) their little mantra was "Weebles wobble but they don't fall down." Strong women are women who just do what has to be done. For me, whether that is in the garden, the workshop, the kitchen, the state legislature halls fighting for laws we believe in, or out walking in the woods holding hands with my husband. We work together and then we can play together.

I hope you find a true strong woman someday. She'll give you a partner in life that you don't have to take care of like she's a table ornament. Decorative people are probably just fine, they've just always appeared expensive and useless in a crunch.

 

Imo its hard to find all those traits in anyone this day and age. I'm guilty of asking if a women is gay if she has those traits and arent with a guy. In my experiences most women that are "confident, independent and physically capable of accomplishing solid outdoor work" are lesbians. The truth is a lot of men are not capable of solid outdoor work, so when they come across a women that can, they dont know what to do with her.

 

the last I read, scientist had discovered via cat scans that homosexuality is determined by the way the brain develops. I wish could recall the article, it was very interesting via medically. It had something to do with a size of a certain part of the brain. In men, the area is larger than in women. But in homosexuals it's reversed.

 

I think the problem is that ( I may have lead a sheltered life ) the only lesbians I really know are lesbians are the get in your face and act tough type. It don't really take that long to figure ot most are either possers are just hate full. The remaining ( I did not know how many gays there were till the last ten years ) lesbians virtually go unknown becuase( here is a surprise ) they are just like regular people. The traights shown by the few are tied to the "TYPE" and so any woman whho stands strong becomes suspect.

I had heard the word **** as a kid growing up but really didn't know what it meant until high school health class at which time I said " yeah like that could really happen " and as far as I knew I didn't actually meet a gay person until I was 26.

But basically I was raised in the country and the women helped in the fields, drove trucks, cooked, cleaned, gave birth and watched the kids and then come out and brought you some cool water and asked if they could help fix whatever you were working on. You just can't get much stronger that that. Te young girls seemed to almost go from girly to helpmate as soon as you tied the knot.

I can't wrap my head around being gay, I know they have to be made that way because I can't thinkl anyone could choose it.

But I can say I dislike sissys no matter what the sex.