Survivalist Forum banner
1 - 20 of 30 Posts

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
2,025 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Well, I got word today that the feds (yes--your tax dollars at work!) are giving me and a colleague a big chunk of cash to start a program in Vermont. We identified a big bunch of Vermonters who are young adults who are very challenged by their life circumstances. Some of them have mental illnesses and/or have substance abuse problems, are high school drop outs, are currently see as "unemplyable", etc.

What the feds have funded is for me & my colleague to set up an "enhanced job training program" for these kids, aged 16-22, who have pretty serious problems and aren't enrolled in school or a jobs training program or college. We're going to set them up with psychologists who will assess their abilities, and then they case managers will work with jobs counselors, psychiatrists, substance abuse treatment experts and educational professionals to get each kid a plan, and then support them along the way, towards getting a job and living independently.

Socialism at it's worst, right? :rolleyes:

Anyhoo, the program starts in January and we're starting to gear up now. I'll be on this forum on and off until the election (I'm addicted to politics, in case you didn't know...) but then things are going to get REALLY busy.

Wish me luck!

HippieSurvivalist
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
491 Posts
Hippie,
I don't mean to knock your program. It really sounds worthwhile.The problem I have with it is why does the federal government have the right to take a big chunk of tax dollars and give it to whoever they see fit, wherever they see fit.I believe that local and state money should take care of programs like this.
I do commend you for taking the time to work with these youth.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
688 Posts
Well being from Canada I'm particularly fond of socialist programs like that. :rolleyes:

It sounds great and I'm sure it'll be for you as well as the kids! :thumb:
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
2,025 Posts
Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Thanks for the encouragement, everybody!

I won't be doing direct work with the kids, but will be making sure all the psychologists, job counselors, etc. are doing their job, and tracking the kids' progress through the program. I used to do clinical work with kids who had psychiatric problems, but got really burned out after a few years.

HippieSurvivalist
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,182 Posts
What Davy Crockett would tell you

Not Yours To Give
http://hushmoney.org/Davy_Crockett_Farmer_Bunce.htm
Davy Crockett on The Role Of Government
from: The Life of Colonel David Crockett
compiled by: Edward S. Elis (1884)

...I was one day in the lobby of the House of Representatives when a bill was taken up appropriating money for the benefit of a widow of a distinguished naval officer. It seemed to be that everybody favored it. The Speaker was just about to put the question when Crockett arose. Everybody expected, of course, that he was going to make a speech in support of the bill. He commenced:

"...I will not go into argument to prove that Congress has no power under the Constitution to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member upon this floor knows it. We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of the public money."

Background story:
Bunce to an electioneering Crockett:
"My papers say that last winter you voted for a bill to appropriate $20,000 to some sufferers by a fire in Georgetown. Is that true?' "'Certainly it is, and I thought that was the last vote which anybody in the world would have found fault with.' "'Well, Colonel, where do you find in the Constitution any authority to give away the public money in charity?'

"Here was another sockdolager; for, when I began to think about it, I could not remember a thing in the Constitution that authorized it. I found I must take another tack, so I said: "'Well, my friend; I may as well own up. You have got me there. But certainly nobody will complain that a great and rich country like ours should give the insignificant sum of $20,000 to relieve women and children, particularly with a full and overflowing Treasury; and, I am sure, if you had been there, you would have done just as I did.'

"'It is not the amount, Colonel, that I complain of; it is the principle. In the first place, the government ought to have in the Treasury no more than enough for its legitimate purposes. But that has nothing to do with the question. The power of collecting and disbursing money at pleasure is the most dangerous power that can be intrusted to man, particularly under our system of collecting revenue by a tariff, which reaches every man in the country, no matter how poor he may be, and the poorer he is the more he pays in proportion to his means. What is worse, it presses upon him without his knowledge where the weight centers, for there is not a man in the United States who can ever guess how much he pays to the government. So you see, that while you are contributing to relieve one, you are drawing it from thousands who are even worse off than he. "'If you had the right to give anything, the amount was simply a matter of discretion with you, and you had as much right to give $20,000,000 as $20,000. If you have the right to give to one, you have the right to give to all; and as the Constitution neither defines charity nor stipulates the amount, you are at liberty to give to any and everything which you believe, or profess to believe, is a charity, and to any amount you may think proper. You will very easily perceive what a wide door this would open for fraud and corruption and favoritism, on the one hand, and for robbing the people on the other. "

'No, Colonel, Congress has no right to give charity. Individual members may give as much of their own money as they please, but they have no right to touch a dollar of the public money for that purpose."
This is exactly what Socialists fail to understand.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,210 Posts
Good luck hippie. I personally think its a waste of effort and money but I guess if we can keep a few people off of the government doll it would be OK.

One of my big customers runs about a dozen homes for troubled boys. I probably go to the homes twice a month and as a result I have come to know quite a few of the kids. Most of these kids either end up in jail or dead despite having been given direction and a high school education. Of those that do succeed most of them enter the military.
 
1 - 20 of 30 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top